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sstarless 
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 Posted: March 27 2005 at 11:15 |
Two year ago I could not imagine I would be listening to death metal grunt, but it all changed after Still Life. I am surprised that this album is generally rated lower then BWP, even here among the fans of progressive. Maybe if not the Damnation then Still Life would had a better chans, may be not 
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Io sono nato libero
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frenchie
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 10:32 |
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wow thanks guys, this has turned out to be a really cool thread! Poor orchid tho... i prefer orchid to morningrise but i can see how it has been neglected hehe
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mobuto
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 04:07 |
Morningrise 
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chorus of one
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 01:13 |
Damnation is the one I enjoy most, even if it's not their usual style. However it's not really the death vocals that put me off, it's the same boring structure in almost every single one of their heavier songs...
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billyshears'67
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 01:04 |
OPETH are great live and have released thus far, 7 great albums & 1 great DVD.
I'm at a dead-tie with "My Arms, Your Hearse" & "Still Life" as my
favorite album of theirs. Basically, these are 2 of the finest metal
albums of ALL-TIME!
Peace & take care 
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topographic2112
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 00:15 |
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I can always see Damnation as an album that even people who don't like the band can actually listen to without having to hear any death-metal growling. I think it's a beautiful album, with a little help from Mr. Porcupine Tree himself, Steven Wilson, who never does anything short of amazing.
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"Rock is the medium of our generation." - Yes - "Release, Release"
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starofsirius
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 00:12 |
Its a toss up between Blackwater Park and Still Life with Blackwater Park just by a hair.
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"I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down."
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topographic2112
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 23:58 |
 alan_pfeifer wrote:
Prog_Bassist wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Damnation is very good.Dont like the Death metal growling on BWP!
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Damnation is the only album I like by them, because of the non-killing-cat-with-rusty-razorblad-death-metal-voice. |
I agree, but as much as I don't like the growl of Akerfelt (sp), I respect the fact that he can actually change between the two very easily and still be able to be understandable.
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That's the beauty part of his vocalizations. Even when he does the death-metal growling, you can actually understand what the hell he's saying, unlike, say, the vocalists for Cannibal Corpse or Mobid Angel or any of that other crap. The music is good, but the singers (?) I can do without. As far as Opeth, Damnation is a beautiful album, but I love Blackwater Park. My favorite songs off of that album is "The Drapery Falls." Akerfeldt knows when to sing and when to growl. I'm not too big a fan of it, but for him, I like it, because it fits with the mood and I can understand him and I don't need a translator for it.
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"Rock is the medium of our generation." - Yes - "Release, Release"
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The Prognaut
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 21:18 |
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Hierophant
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 20:30 |
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Their growling and clean vocal combination just makes them that much more progressive...
Its kind of like good(clean) vs evil (growling)
The vocals used to bother me but now I can enjoy them just as much as the clean parts.
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Darth Nisis
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 19:28 |
Damnation is very good, but BWP is their best effort to date from them i Think
By the way, when is going to be a new release of Opeth?
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 17:11 |
Prog_Bassist wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Damnation is very good.Dont like the Death metal growling on BWP!
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Damnation is the only album I like by them, because of the non-killing-cat-with-rusty-razorblad-death-metal-voice. |
I agree, but as much as I don't like the growl of Akerfelt (sp), I respect the fact that he can actually change between the two very easily and still be able to be understandable.
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 14:40 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Damnation is very good.Dont like the Death metal growling on BWP! |
Damnation is the only album I like by them, because of the non-killing-cat-with-rusty-razorblad-death-metal-voice.
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diddy
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 14:27 |
frenchie wrote:
intersting. I thought damnation might be favoured, just dont forget guys that they are a death metal band that want to growl hehe! Its a shame, yet totally realistic, that people are put off the growling. I think they are one of the best metal bands out there, who actually considering trying to appeal to the non metal fans as well! |
I think, which also associates with Mikael's statements, that Opeth is a Death Metal band and FANS of Progressive Rock, especially Mikael...
And Damnation was a dream coming true, a complete prog album. Furthermore nearly all other albums contain at least prog ingredients (apart from Orchid and My Arms, your Hearse)...
But they're still more Death than Prog...but they definitely ARE prog
Edited by diddy
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If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear...
George Orwell
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frenchie
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 13:58 |
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intersting. I thought damnation might be favoured, just dont forget guys that they are a death metal band that want to growl hehe! Its a shame, yet totally realistic, that people are put off the growling. I think they are one of the best metal bands out there, who actually considering trying to appeal to the non metal fans as well!
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Manunkind
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 13:55 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
Um, what's a good 1st album from them? I will say that the whole Death Metal Growl turned me off of them, but I do respect the vocalist's ability to change his singing so well.
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There is no growling on 'Damnation'. Other than that, go for 'My Arms/Your Hearse' (my favourite), 'Deliverance' or 'Blackwater Park', but you can't really go amiss with any of the others, either.
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Keke
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 13:39 |
I seriously don't see why people keep quoting Dream Theater as best prog metal band... since frankly, OPETH BEATS THEM ALL. It's one of the best active prog bands existing right now.
As far as albums go, every single one of them has memorable songs, but the Deliverance/Damnation pair was the most brilliant up to this day.
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 12:07 |
Um, what's a good 1st album from them? I will say that the whole Death Metal Growl turned me off of them, but I do respect the vocalist's ability to change his singing so well.
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Tony
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 12:02 |
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Blackwater Park is a masterpiece, with Damnation and Deliverance not far behind.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 11:42 |
Damnation is very good.Dont like the Death metal growling on BWP!
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