Sociology of the Prog Rock Fan |
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AtomHeartMother
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 229 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 01:14 | |
This is 100% correct, but im sad to say about 1 year ago till about 2 months ago, I smoked weed a few times a month and listened to all my favorite Floyd albums. Best albums while I was high would be the ones that are the best while im sober, Animals, Meddle, Darkside, Wish, Atom Heart Mother. I very much enjoyed the time I had with these albums while I was high. Then when I came to this web site about 2 months ago and discovered all the great bands, I found out that I could listen to them and not smoke and have just as much fun. |
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Syntharachnid
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 05 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 703 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 01:21 | |
Yeah, me too. Yes are my favorite band, but I didn't go because they were going to be there during my first week of school. I really regret it now, what with Wakeman retiring from live performance and all, and Anderson leaving. And Dream Theater were opening for them, too. They aren't one of my favorites, but I wouldn't mind seeing them. |
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20240 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 03:08 | |
A lot of us were smoking up at the end of the 70's , so I imagine that in the early 70's they were too. Compared to Metalheads (heavy drinking and a bit of smoking), Disco Fiends (uppers and coke) and Punks (mostly booze but sometimes hard drugs) , we were dopeheads! We considered ourselves as such , but this stayed only to smoking and drinking! I read Macan's book about 10 years ago and found nothing to say on that particular chapter. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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video vertigo
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 04:58 | |
I'm wearing a Rush belt buckle currently. My parents never listened to prog (I introduced them to it) They married in 74 so they missed out during the biggest years of prog anyways I don't do drugs, I have druggie friends but none of them like prog. Most drug users I've come across, were into indie/punk/emo |
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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video vertigo
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 05:03 | |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=75306 81361&category=85979&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1 there's some yes buckles on ebay |
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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iguana
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 01 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 825 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 05:36 | |
yer average prog rock fan:
predominantly male white caucasian origin nerdy bedroom-boffin type doesn't care about fashionable items and ideas gets nervous in the presence of females writes lengthy essays just for the sake of it hates record companies and radio stations is more nostalgic than he dares to admit passionately about music and other hobbies… anything else anyone? |
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Bilek
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 06:04 | |
Hail you, Gatot and Felona! I thought people like you vanished:) Despite the "hippy" image, I believe most proggers here have respected jobs (at least make enough money to buy thousands of albums) and I am a translator. Well, my money is not enough for thousand albums, sigh. Thankfully we have MP3's here. I believe there's no stereotype of a progger, at least for the fact that it ambodies many different styles, from jazz to classical, from metal to experimental/electronic! another fact: NetsNJfan has a point about Yes, just inspect their lifestyles!! (and consider Wakeman contrary to the rest, he is the christian one!!!!!!) Videovertigo took this further: actually indie/punks should have been classified so. Yet, we know that there are drug influenced acts, at least in the beginning of prog: does Timothy Leary suggest anything!? I just love the music produced, no matter how it came out; Light My Fire is my all time favorite Doors track, and it couldn't have come that way if it weren't for the fact that they were high!!!! don't spend much time on prototypes, just enjoy the music! keep on proggin' PS: if there are other christians among you, please send me a private post. I would like to meet people of my kind! |
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
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goose
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 06:18 | |
Very occasionally, I went through a week or a fortnight of smoking just about every day around my 16th birthday, now it's probably less than every couple of months, if that. I did mushrooms once though and I've got a couple of tabs of acid to try in a few weeks when I have the house to myself .
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Prog-Brazil
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 07 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 596 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 07:54 | |
Probably people who use drugs, will not post here..
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Let the sunshine in
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12812 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 08:08 | |
Sociologically speaking, progressive music was bought and heard (i.e. as albums and gigs) by the middle class (that is here originally in the UK). It was the music played by those who were continuing their education beyond the age of 16, therefore there were a lot of university and college undergraduates. A lot of these would have had some music in their education, especially serious music and possibly grown to appreciate that music could be complex and enjoyable, e.g. something that could intellectually rewarding, rather once played could be forgotten until heard on the radio the next time. Prog lasted longer than the 2min 30 seconds average of a pop song as well as being far more complex wrt structure. The fans were perhaps better off (or their parents!) and could afford albums, to drop out, get dope without being busted too many times. As written on another thread, there was a rough class separation between popular music fans, here the hippies (a term used in a very broad sense) and the skinheads - the latter liked simpler music, were into reggae before most othe rpeople - especially the prog fans (NOTE: not until the Police produced their so-called regatta de blac- blue eyed reggae - did the rock audiencve take that on board - and of course Rush took up much of the regatta de blanc style when Police folded). Prog music was new and radical and therefore something that related well to the so-called revolutional attitudes and the new freedoms which younger people demanded i and in some way obtained at that time. Toss inthe key words : 60's and society, into Amazon (in my case Amazon.UK's) search engine and dozens of books appear on the subject.
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GoldenSpiral
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 10:06 | |
I think the drug thing is largely untrue this day in age. As far as the listening to albums, going to concerts stereotype, I think this applies to fans of really any kind of underground/unpopular genre, be it prog or punk or indie or whatever. Everyone comes together in the name of appreciating music..... and making fun of the emo kids.
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NetsNJFan
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 10:48 | |
yea thats me |
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The Hemulen
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 11:22 | |
I don't listen to prog at friend's houses as I have no proggy friends in the "real world".
I don't do drugs either. |
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DavidInsabella
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 317 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 11:28 | |
Oh, you said you do? |
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Life seemed to him merely like a gallery of how to be.
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7003 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 14:38 | |
What a sanctimonious lot you young proggers are! I was around in the 70s and smoked weed, got drunk, took mushrooms and generally did the kind of stupid things you're meant to do when you're young. Not all of this was necessarily linked to listening to prog, but as a prog fan there was usually a prog album playing in the background. I still enjoy the odd toot on a bong, sometimes with an old Floyd or Gong album on in the background, and what's wrong with that? You youngsters today are far too level headed for my liking - a spell in the Deadheads would soon sort your heads out! |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Poxx
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2005 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 231 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 14:55 | |
While the amount of drugs consumed by the youth, may have decreased since the 70's, stupidity has increased exponentially to such a degree that it is fashionable. Turn on the TV to be fully convinced. Edited by Poxx |
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GoldenSpiral
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 15:15 | |
but have prog fans ever really concerned themselves with what is fashionable? certainly not, and the same still holds true (for the most part....) |
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Retroventuremod
Forum Groupie Joined: July 12 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 66 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 15:42 | |
Oh, you said you do? [/QUOTE]HARHARHAR yeah, there is nothing wrong with it. Its relaxing, and also i CAN understand (and open my mind to) the music without it, it just makes it more enjoyable, believe me I listen to prog all the time, but i do always find its interesting to listen to while stoned. which i havent done much at all now that uni's out lol Oh and to the moslems on the board - what about smoking shiesha(?) in a hookah to relax, and listen to prog - thats fun too. |
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I asked Bobby Dylan
I asked the Beatles I asked Timothy Leary But he couldn't help me either They call me the seeker THE WHO! |
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Retroventuremod
Forum Groupie Joined: July 12 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 66 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 15:50 | |
I agree, there are a lot of young, very serious people on this board. Those of you in uni/college, like me, don't you realise these will be the most fun years of your lives? Don't ruin it by never having fun, and only studying. Universities are all about having a laugh, drinking a few beers, smoking a doob with your mates, rocking out at a party or bars, going to class at 9am hungover. balance is bliss. lol |
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I asked Bobby Dylan
I asked the Beatles I asked Timothy Leary But he couldn't help me either They call me the seeker THE WHO! |
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GoldenSpiral
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: July 13 2005 at 16:43 | |
I'm not saying that copious beers and shots haven't been consumed (and they are, often) but it has no connection with my enjoyment of music. I've never understood how musicians play under the influence. my chops are ruined as soon as the consumption begins! |
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