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    Posted: March 15 2005 at 15:42
Hey, my flatmate is a drummer, at the moment he's primarily a metal drummer but he wants to expand and learn some new styles, so can any of you guys recommend some good jazz drummers he should be listening to and let me who they play with.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2005 at 15:44
Oh, and he is very very good, so dont worry about recommending people who will be difficult to emulate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2005 at 22:00
Max Roach
Buddy Rich
Billy Cobham
Tony Williams
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:24
Cheers, don;t suppose you could tell me what recordings have these guys played on, so that my mate can go and check them out.  Thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2005 at 17:05
Peter Erskine is a master technician and a good teacher of how to get a genuine 'swing' into your drumming. Recommended Videos/DVD's. Please try to ignore the fact that he looks like a 70's porn star.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2005 at 17:17
Umm... max roach and buddy rich are older traditional jazz drummers... i know there's a good album with buddy and gene krupas (? don't remember exactly) called "drum battle!" or something along those lines.. my memory is sort of fuzzy there. Max Roach appears on pretty much any Charlie Parker album you get.

Billy Cobham and Tony Williams, on the other hand, are later fusion drummers. Cobham made it big in the 70s and was almost solely a fusion player in that time, having played with miles davis, the mahavishnu orchestra, and releasing a few albums of his own. Highly recommended is Cobham's "Spectrum" with "Crosswinds" as a close second. Tony William's play in Miles Davis' 1965-68 quintet (miles davis, wayne shorter, herbie hancock, ron carter, tony williams) that led Davis into the Bitches Brew fusion period. I love this period of Miles' repotoire... it shows in a very intriguing way how Miles and his fellow music geniuses moved from a swing concept to a straight ahead jazz-rock concept... so you'll probably find any of Miles' material in that time useful... ESP, Filles De Kilimanjaro, In a Silent Way, Circle in the Round, Bitches Brew, etc. Tony William's Lifetime was TW's fusion band, which, although a great act, was never as commercially popular as Mahavishnu or Weather Report, but made some great music. I'd get "The Collection" compilation if you want to check that out... two original vinyl records compacted into one disc.

And of course... for anybody who's interested in jazz... check out Miles Davis' Kind of Blue... an absolute classic, and a great primer for anybody who wants to learn the music.

(Peter Erskine is a great suggestion too... he played with Weather Report during its popular phase in the late 70s)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2005 at 18:14
Thanks you guys, you've been very helpful
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2005 at 18:44
Gene Krupa all the way...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2005 at 03:22
I seem to remember (as a prog/cross-over reference) there were a couple of 1980's Jeff Berlin albums featuring our very own Neil Peart.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2005 at 10:52

Champion. But Peart on played on one or two tracks.

The past greats:

Gene Krupa / Buddy Rich / Max Roach

My current favs:

Kofi Baker / Chad Wackerman / Gary Husband / Vinnie Coliutta / Vic Stevens / Jeff Sipe

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:51

Jeff Ballard - plays with Kurt Rosenwinkel

Tom Rainey - with Tim Berne and the Science Friction Band

Rashied Ali - John Coltrane's "Interstellar Space", with James 'Blood Ulmer' and solo

Elvin Jones - most John Coltrane albums, an album with John McLaughlin and Tony DeFrancesco

Dave Weckl - in Chick Corea's Electric Band, I think

Jack DeJohnette - recent Keith Jarrett albums and many, many others

Khamid Drake - with David S. Ware

Suzie Ibarra - with David S. Ware and solo, I think

Ronald Shannon Jackson - with Cecil Taylor and solo

Billy Martin - with the Medeski, Martin and Wood Trio

Ed Blackwell - with Eric Dolphy and Ornette Coleman

Billy Higgins - with Ornette Coleman

Barry Altschull - on Dave Holland's 'Conference of the Birds", with Last Exit

Roy Haynes - with Charlie Parker and still keeps going (!!!!)

Paul Wertico - with Pat Metheny and solo

Famoudou Don Moye - with the Art Ensemble of Chicago

Jacek Kochan - solo

Marcin Miskiewicz - with Tomasz Stanko on 'Soul of Things', 'Suspended Dream' and with the Simple Acoustic Trio

Milford Graves - with Dave Murray

Jimmy Cobb - with Miles Davis on 'Kind of Blue'

Jim Black - with the Ellery Eskelin Trio and one of Dave Douglas' bands

Lenny White - solo

Jacques Lozier's drummer

Bruno Chevignon - with Marc Ducret

Dennis Chambers - with Niacin, solo, John McLaughlin

Marilyn Mazur - with Jan Garbarek

Paul Motian - with Bill Frisell

Adam Deitch - with John Scofield

Joey Baron - with John Zorn

Tatsuya Yoshida - with the Satoko Fuji Quartet

These ladies/guys switch bands pretty often, so the names I associated them with are just indications... expect some kickass drumming when you find a CD with any of them on drums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2005 at 11:44
Obviously none of you guys have been to The Montreal International Jazz Festival. Guy Nadon, Le Roi de Drum blows all these away. Guy Nadon almost caused me to give up music. I felt like  taking my drum kit and dousing it in gasoline and torching it  after seeing him play for the first time in the 70`s. This guy turned down a gig with The Jimmy Dorsey Orchestra back in the fifties! He pissed off Buddy Rich so bad that Rich walked out of a gig when Nadon ( as a kid no less ) blew him away after Rich let him come up on stage and play on his kit.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 07:54
Thanks for the heads-up on Guy Nadon (don't you hate child-prodigy people like that?)  Believe it or not, I also recommend Bill Bruford.  The stuff he does on his collaboration album with Patrick Moraz, Music for Piano and Drums (1984), is very much in the best style of Krupa and Rich, IMO.  Excellent jazz interpretive drumming there...
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