Jazz Drummers
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Topic: Jazz Drummers
Posted By: Metropolis
Subject: Jazz Drummers
Date Posted: March 15 2005 at 15:42
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Hey, my flatmate is a drummer, at the moment he's primarily a metal
drummer but he wants to expand and learn some new styles, so can any of
you guys recommend some good jazz drummers he should be listening to
and let me who they play with. Thanks ------------- We Lost the Skyline............ 
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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: March 15 2005 at 15:44
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Oh, and he is very very good, so dont worry about recommending people who will be difficult to emulate.
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: March 15 2005 at 22:00
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Max Roach Buddy Rich Billy Cobham Tony Williams ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:24
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Cheers, don;t suppose you could tell me what recordings have these guys
played on, so that my mate can go and check them out. Thanks.
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 17:05
Peter Erskine is a master technician and a good teacher of how to get a
genuine 'swing' into your drumming. Recommended Videos/DVD's. Please
try to ignore the fact that he looks like a 70's porn star.   ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 17:17
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Umm... max roach and buddy rich are older traditional jazz drummers... i
know there's a good album with buddy and gene krupas (? don't remember
exactly) called "drum battle!" or something along those lines.. my
memory is sort of fuzzy there. Max Roach appears on pretty much any
Charlie Parker album you get. Billy Cobham and Tony Williams, on the other hand, are later fusion drummers. Cobham made it big in the 70s and was almost solely a fusion player in that time, having played with miles davis, the mahavishnu orchestra, and releasing a few albums of his own. Highly recommended is Cobham's "Spectrum" with "Crosswinds" as a close second. Tony William's play in Miles Davis' 1965-68 quintet (miles davis, wayne shorter, herbie hancock, ron carter, tony williams) that led Davis into the Bitches Brew fusion period. I love this period of Miles' repotoire... it shows in a very intriguing way how Miles and his fellow music geniuses moved from a swing concept to a straight ahead jazz-rock concept... so you'll probably find any of Miles' material in that time useful... ESP, Filles De Kilimanjaro, In a Silent Way, Circle in the Round, Bitches Brew, etc. Tony William's Lifetime was TW's fusion band, which, although a great act, was never as commercially popular as Mahavishnu or Weather Report, but made some great music. I'd get "The Collection" compilation if you want to check that out... two original vinyl records compacted into one disc. And of course... for anybody who's interested in jazz... check out Miles Davis' Kind of Blue... an absolute classic, and a great primer for anybody who wants to learn the music. (Peter Erskine is a great suggestion too... he played with Weather Report during its popular phase in the late 70s) ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 18:14
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Thanks you guys, you've been very helpful
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 18:44
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Gene Krupa all the way... ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 03:22
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I seem to remember (as a prog/cross-over reference) there were a couple of 1980's Jeff Berlin albums featuring our very own Neil Peart. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 10:52
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Champion. But Peart on played on one or two tracks. The past greats: Gene Krupa / Buddy Rich / Max Roach My current favs: Kofi Baker / Chad Wackerman / Gary Husband / Vinnie Coliutta / Vic Stevens / Jeff Sipe |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:51
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Jeff Ballard - plays with Kurt Rosenwinkel Tom Rainey - with Tim Berne and the Science Friction Band Rashied Ali - John Coltrane's "Interstellar Space", with James 'Blood Ulmer' and solo Elvin Jones - most John Coltrane albums, an album with John McLaughlin and Tony DeFrancesco Dave Weckl - in Chick Corea's Electric Band, I think Jack DeJohnette - recent Keith Jarrett albums and many, many others Khamid Drake - with David S. Ware Suzie Ibarra - with David S. Ware and solo, I think Ronald Shannon Jackson - with Cecil Taylor and solo Billy Martin - with the Medeski, Martin and Wood Trio Ed Blackwell - with Eric Dolphy and Ornette Coleman Billy Higgins - with Ornette Coleman Barry Altschull - on Dave Holland's 'Conference of the Birds", with Last Exit Roy Haynes - with Charlie Parker and still keeps going (!!!!) Paul Wertico - with Pat Metheny and solo Famoudou Don Moye - with the Art Ensemble of Chicago Jacek Kochan - solo Marcin Miskiewicz - with Tomasz Stanko on 'Soul of Things', 'Suspended Dream' and with the Simple Acoustic Trio Milford Graves - with Dave Murray Jimmy Cobb - with Miles Davis on 'Kind of Blue' Jim Black - with the Ellery Eskelin Trio and one of Dave Douglas' bands Lenny White - solo Jacques Lozier's drummer Bruno Chevignon - with Marc Ducret Dennis Chambers - with Niacin, solo, John McLaughlin Marilyn Mazur - with Jan Garbarek Paul Motian - with Bill Frisell Adam Deitch - with John Scofield Joey Baron - with John Zorn Tatsuya Yoshida - with the Satoko Fuji Quartet These ladies/guys switch bands pretty often, so the names I associated them with are just indications... expect some kickass drumming when you find a CD with any of them on drums. I'll be back with more ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 11:44
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Obviously none of you guys have been to The Montreal International Jazz Festival. Guy Nadon, Le Roi de Drum blows all these away. Guy Nadon almost caused me to give up music. I felt like taking my drum kit and dousing it in gasoline and torching it after seeing him play for the first time in the 70`s. This guy turned down a gig with The Jimmy Dorsey Orchestra back in the fifties! He pissed off Buddy Rich so bad that Rich walked out of a gig when Nadon ( as a kid no less ) blew him away after Rich let him come up on stage and play on his kit. ------------- |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: June 24 2007 at 07:54
| Thanks for the heads-up on Guy Nadon (don't you hate child-prodigy people like that?) Believe it or not, I also recommend Bill Bruford. The stuff he does on his collaboration album with Patrick Moraz, Music for Piano and Drums (1984), is very much in the best style of Krupa and Rich, IMO. Excellent jazz interpretive drumming there... |