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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 10:38 |
And it's a GOOD one, Jim!!!!
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ummagumma08
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Posted: May 15 2004 at 16:11 |
I new here. This is actually my first thread.
Although I am new to this site. I'm not new to progressive rock.
The tunes that will define the genre best, are in my opinion:
Yes: Close to the Edge
VDGG: A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers
King Crimson: Starless
Genesis: Supper's Ready
ELP: Karn Evil 9 (the entire 30minute suite)
These tunes should cover the most aspects of the traditional Prog-Rock.
But if you want the person to actually like Prog Rock. I wouldn't exactly advise anyone to play stuff like Karn Evil or Gates of Delirium (though it's my all-time-favourite track) to someone who is absolutely new to the genre.
I never forget when I played ELP's Toccata to a friend of mine, who wasn't at all into prog rock. He said, due to the inacsessibility of the track, that it was the worst thing he had ever heard. And ELP got themselves another critic.
A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers, on the other hand, seems to have the opposite effect, even though it gets pretty “wild” a couple of times during it’s 20+ minutes. I played it once to my older sister, she actually seemed to like it. She said it sounded like a “dark” version of Webber’s “Jesus Christ Superstar” I Can’t say I clearly see the similarities, it must be because almost the only music she knows from the 70ies is “Jesus Christ Superstar". It’s an acknowledgement... anyway
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kint
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Posted: July 16 2004 at 18:13 |
Frank Zappa - Peaches en Regalia
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threefates
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Posted: July 16 2004 at 18:30 |
ELP - Tarkus
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THIS IS ELP
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philippe
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: July 17 2004 at 08:05 |
threefates said: "ELP - Tarkus"
Excellent choice.
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Carlos
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Posted: July 17 2004 at 10:21 |
What about Lizard from King Crimson or Supper's Ready from Genesis...Those are good songs that I would recommend to a new prog fan, he will get into move...surely. Those suggestions made by other reviewers are quite good too.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 17 2004 at 12:40 |
One for the Vine - Genesis
Lunar Sea - Camel
Sleepwalkers - VDGG
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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threefates
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Posted: July 17 2004 at 13:05 |
Carlos wrote:
What about Lizard from King Crimson |
Not to offend, but I've always found KC's Lizard.. about the worst album they ever did. I think for a prog newbie... If I was turning them on to KC, I would definitely start out with the first album, ITCOTCK... because its definitely a lot easier to digest...
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 17 2004 at 13:17 |
threefates wrote:
Carlos wrote:
What about Lizard from King Crimson |
Not to offend, but I've always found KC's Lizard.. about the worst album they ever did. I think for a prog newbie... If I was turning them on to KC, I would definitely start out with the first album, ITCOTCK... because its definitely a lot easier to digest...
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I think KC were always quite unpredictable. I'm not a big fan, to be honest, but they have a done some good tunes IMO. I reckon 'Red' would be the only KC album I'd play to a newcomer to prog. Not because it's representative of KC, but just because its good
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Glass-Prison
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Posted: July 18 2004 at 08:21 |
I can't help but admire Lizard, as it is KC's first real attempt at producing a jazz-oriented album. To anyone who is not used to their music, or has heard little of it, the sudden shift in styles can be confusing ![](smileys/smiley5.gif) , but in the context of a jazz album, it is simply magnificent!
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Raelrules
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Posted: July 18 2004 at 09:49 |
Start em off with close to the edge (Yes), in the dead of night (UK), minstrel in the Gallery (JT) and Karn evil 9 (ELP), if they're still standing after that give em Lark's tongue in aspic (I) and Red (Both KC), and finally for the knock out, whomp them with Udu Wudu (Magma) and Leg end (Henry Cow).![](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)
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frenchie
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Posted: August 02 2004 at 19:20 |
Pink Floyd - Echoes - for build ups and progressions Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond - for solos and different instruments. Yes - Close to the Edge - for suites Yes - Roundabout - for shorter prog pieces Yes - Yours is no Disgrace - for lyrical progression King Crimson - Moonchild - for using guitar effects as part of progressive bridges. Mike Oldfield - for side length progressions Pink Floyd - The Wall or DSOTM - for concept albums.
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The Prognaut
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 01:42 |
frenchie wrote:
Pink Floyd - Echoes - for build ups and progressions Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond - for solos and different instruments. King Crimson - Moonchild - for using guitar effects as part of progressive bridges.
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I like the sound of that! ![](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Axe Victim
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 02:56 |
I'dd Go With ---- Silence
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Russiandude
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 15:08 |
Rick Wakeman "No Earthly Connection" , especially track Prisoner and then smash the guy ![](smileys/smiley4.gif) with listening to the whole Tarkus by ELP and in the end, for compensation, In The Court of the CK--if he survives, he's gonna love prog to the end of his days
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greenback
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Posted: August 14 2004 at 23:06 |
too many possible answers!!
Why not Rick Wakeman - The chamber of horrors?
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