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Poll Question: To complement the prog an politics thread, where are you politically?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 05:25
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

Maybe I should make this "poll only"...

Why should the poles be the only ones entitled to an opinion?

Because it doesn't matter who you vote for in Poland, you always end up with the same old sh*t.

This way one can remain impartial and avoid witch hunts, Reed Lover.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 05:49
I'm a liberal revolutionary. I'll lead the oppressed to the gates, smash them down and say 'Look, we'll pay for the damage...'




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 06:24
I agree with those who states to be leftish in social issues and rightish in economical matters. Sadly, in my country is the exact opposite to that. Just to let you people know, the congress pass a law that prescribes jail for who that exprimes an opinion that can be considerer offensive to any public political figure. And we also have an anti-freedoom of speech on radio an TV law.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:21
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

I'm a liberal revolutionary. I'll lead the oppressed to the gates, smash them down and say 'Look, we'll pay for the damage...'




Power To The People!

Er - if that's ok with the ruling classes......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:22
Not meaning to re-start on our previous disagreement but you actually think your country's economy is leftist?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:26

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Not meaning to re-start on our previous disagreement but you actually think your country's economy is leftist?

Well it continually increases spending on Public Services. In terms of British Socialism, that is still on-message,at least!ConfusedI dont see taxation being reduced for the very rich, just less draconian more pragmatic levels being maintained.Big smile




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:31

Hi Reed

I forgot to quote Mirco regarding his Venezuela statement.

For internal matters on the European Commission issues , I propose to see next month if we can set-up an agenda for the following three years to see when discussions about the the discussion of the side issues can take place. Say the 32nd of feb. 2065?????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:31
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

I'm a liberal revolutionary. I'll lead the oppressed to the gates, smash them down and say 'Look, we'll pay for the damage...'




Power To The People!

Er - if that's ok with the ruling classes......




I have to admit that I borrowed from Eddie Izzard on that one..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:34
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Not meaning to re-start on our previous disagreement but you actually think your country's economy is leftist?
Not right now, but it is becoming, if you consider the tremendous ingerence of the state in the economic activities. Just one example: our principal resource, petroleum, if (bad) managed by the state. The state also has a chain of food stores and controls the buy & sell of major quantities of goods. Yes, I think were are going towards a state capitalism.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:34
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Hi Reed

I forgot to quote Mirco regarding his Venezuela statement.

For internal matters on the European Commission issues , I propose to see next month if we can set-up an agenda for the following three years to see when discussions about the the discussion of the side issues can take place. Say the 32nd of feb. 2065?????

I will make that a date Sean. The right wing governments will have added 4 days to every month so as to get more work out of us and have 48 more trading days per year, by then.Although I will be 83 yrs old and senile,I doubt you will notice any difference in my posts!LOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:34

But Reed ,

you are right this new agreement being voted is mainly economic and not social, It could be disastrous for John Doe and Howard Hughes admirers will laugh all the way to the bank. If once the UK can use their veto correctly , it could be now!!! Against its own Commissioner Kinnock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:37
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

But Reed ,

you are right this new agreement being voted is mainly economic and not social, It could be disastrous for John Doe and Howard Hughes admirers will laugh all the way to the bank. If once the UK can use their veto correctly , it could be now!!! Against its own Commissioner Kinnock.

Kinnock, that's an anagram for inneffectual isn't it?LOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:40

I suppose you would have to label my politics(such as they are) conservative.....

If i were in Britain i would probably vote Tory.......

If i were an American i would probably vote Republican......

given the results of the polls so far i geuss that would make me the bad guy!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:42
Actually, his main job/goal is managing to threaten the EEC. I forget what was the previous other British commissioner's name . He had done an outstanding job and was voted top commissioner after Karel Van Miert .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:43
Originally posted by dude dude wrote:

I suppose you would have to label my politics(such as they are) conservative.....

If i were in Britain i would probably vote Tory.......

If i were an American i would probably vote Republican......

given the results of the polls so far i geuss that would make me the bad guy!!

It take all sorts!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:45
Not Britten or Patten the guy before them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 07:48
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:

Originally posted by dude dude wrote:

I suppose you would have to label my politics(such as they are) conservative.....

If i were in Britain i would probably vote Tory.......

If i were an American i would probably vote Republican......

given the results of the polls so far i geuss that would make me the bad guy!!

It take all sorts!

Well at least you are not even moreon the extreme right, wishing for the KKK as political party!!!

At least , I hope not!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 08:19

I'm a communist,

Central issues;

Freedom for Everyone (freewill, Free speach, free choice, free traffic, freedom of religion. all free)

equality of life, both intellectualy as economicly

(for those that don't know: Sovjet Union and eastern Europe before the fall of the wall, was Fascism, it had nothing to do with communism, same goes for all dictatorships, Communism knows no ruling class, all men together are supposed to be in charge of the direction, so in the end communism is also very much about democracy) Though communism is mostly an Utopian philosophy, and probably not possible to achieve in real life. I believe in it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 10:26
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

I'm a communist,

Central issues;

Freedom for Everyone (freewill, Free speach, free choice, free traffic, freedom of religion. all free)

equality of life, both intellectualy as economicly

(for those that don't know: Sovjet Union and eastern Europe before the fall of the wall, was Fascism, it had nothing to do with communism, same goes for all dictatorships, Communism knows no ruling class, all men together are supposed to be in charge of the direction, so in the end communism is also very much about democracy) Though communism is mostly an Utopian philosophy, and probably not possible to achieve in real life. I believe in it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2005 at 15:04

Embittered old lefty here. Not totally dogmatic about it, though, I believe in public ownership of utilities and essential services but industry and commerce should be left private (but not unregulated).

I believe that there is no reason why any human being on the surface of the planet should not have access to food, clothing, housing, medical treatment and education, and that if any of our alleged leaders are serious about the 'wars' on terrorism, drugs and crime then tackling poverty (absolute poverty to start with) should be the number 1 priority and this will not be achieved by military action. So there.

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