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Rob The Good 
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Joined: December 17 2004 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 476 |
 Topic: The Grateful DeadPosted: January 30 2005 at 19:50 |
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This isn't a plea for them to be put into the archives at all!
I'm new to their music, and have heard some songs from their American Beauty album which seems to have a distinct country-ish flavour, but I would like to hear their earlier psychedelic stuff. Does anyone recommend a place to start? I was thinking perhaps their Live/Dead album... 
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
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aqualung28
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 19:59 |
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I don't usually reccommend best ofs but theirs is good. Workingman's Dead and Terrapin Station are supposed to be good ones also but I don't know anything about them
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"O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love
'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
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Azrael2112
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:36 |
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Terrapin Station is a great album. The title track is as prog as the dead
get. They usually are not my cup of tea, so I wouldnt know where to tell you to go from there. I know Spartacus is a big dead fan, maybe he'll see this post and let you know... |
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maani
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 23:16 |
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Rob: Anthem of the Sun and Aotomotapoeia are probably the two most psychedelic albums in their catalogue, not including the Live/Dead album, which is arguably to live/jam/psychedelia what ITC is to prog. However, for my money, GD's best album is Blues for Allah, which is practically prog in places. Peace. |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 02:17 |
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Recently buy "two from the vaults" in remastered hdcd (2004) by rhino
THIS IS SIMPLY THE BEST DEAD RECORDS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This 1968 concert is incredible!!! they are at their best!!! all their best pieces are there: Disque : 1 1. Good Morning Little School Girl 2. Dark Star 3. Saint Stephen 4. Eleven 5. Death Don't Have No Mercy Disque : 2 1. That's It for the Other One: Cryptical Envolvement/Quadlibet for Tender 2. New Potato Caboose 3. Turn on Your Love Light 4. (Walk Me Out in The) Morning Dew If there's one record to have from them, that's it!!!! |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 07:56 |
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Nobody knoes this record?
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goose
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 11:22 |
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http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?collect ion=etree&cat=Grateful%20Dead&PHPSESSID=d6d9c44e282e 62b719b42d084a4cbe4b
Check out those; start with the most popular one (~four hours long). It's free, so you've got nothing to lose  . |
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Spartacus
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 11:34 |
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I second 2 From the Vault. I would also recommend Dick's Picks Volume 3. I never quite got the Dead until I heard DP3, a classic show from 1977. One thing you need to understand about the Dead is that they are not really a psychedelic band at all, despite their public view of being such. If psychedelic is what you are looking for then, as was stated earlier, Anthem of the Sun and Aoxomoxoa is the way to go. The true essence of the Dead lies somewhere between country, folk, and jazz. This essence is only truely represented in a live setting. Of special interest for prog fans is the Dead's space and drum jams played live throughout the 80s and 90s. Many deadheads loath these weird improvization jams, but prog fans such as us have a more open heart for the avent garde. For a good example of Space-Drums check out Dozin' at the Knick from 1990.
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goose
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 12:47 |
Heh heh, except neo prog fans . Whoops! Did I say that out loud? |
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 13:19 |
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I think you have chosen the best place to start already. American Beauty is probably their best album. I love every track on it.
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maani
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 16:32 |
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Rob: Oops! I meant "Aoxomoaxa." Peace. |
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Syzygy
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 17:13 |
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Blues For Allah is probably their proggiest effort, with lots of jazzy chords and odd time signatures. The live album One From The Vault is a recording of the first time they played the material live - it's a bit hit and miss, but mostly good stuff. Terrapin Station is a side long epic that is extremely groovy, but the rest of the album veers from good to mediocre. Just about everything from their first decade is worth a listen, but prog was only one of the many bases their music touched.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: February 01 2005 at 00:26 |
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The HDCD rhino remastered version of "two from the faults"
sounds better than the old 1992 previous cD version. |
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 20:31 |
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dozin at the knick is an excellent 3 disc live set as well
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James Lee
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:55 |
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I second maani's call for "Anthem of the Sun" and "Aoxomoxoa". The latter especially is one of my favorite Dead studio albums, a perfect cross-section of the early Dead: the Americana of "Dupree's Diamond Blues", the Brit-pop influence of "China Cat Sunflower", the antique folk sound of "Mountains of the Moon", and the pure LSD weirdness of "What's become of the Baby". Plus there's the classic 60's grooves of "St. Stephen", "Doin' that Rag" and "Cosmic Charlie", and the exquisite Leslie-soaked ballad "Rosemary". Live, you can't beat Two from the Vaults...there are some better 60s shows on bootlegs out there (my current favs are: http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15551 and http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=14706 ), but none of these sound quite as good as "Two". Spartacus is totally correct- the Dead weren't a psychedelic band, they weren't even really a rock band. The Dead were fusing traditional American musical traditions (dixieland, jug band, folk, blues, R&B, free-jazz, bluegrass, et cetera) with a 'modern' electrified approach. The fact that they and everyone around them were doing a lot of psychedelics at the time certainly added to the sound, though, and of course the British Invasion had an inescapable influence on every band then as well. Edited by James Lee |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:57 |
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Does someone know the dick's picks live albums?
I'm very interested in dick's pick's volume 26 (!) which is a live from 1969 with all the good pieces. But i'm afraid of the sound quality... |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:58 |
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You are right , Blues For Allah if fine but easily the most progressive IMHO is 1977's Terrapin Station's first side. Edited by Sean Trane |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:46 |
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blues for allah is another of their alltime great accomplishments and i wouldnt attempt to compare it to terrapin or anything for that matter...way too unique
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PROGMAN
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 10:02 |
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I Like that Trukin song they Did. (Can't Remember the Title)
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 10:35 |
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i think they named that one either "casey jones" or "touch of grey" lol
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