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Trotsky
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 02:03 |
A few that have been mentioned here already ...
Can - Tago Mago Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory
plus two borderline recordings by non-prog artists
Pat Metheny - Zero Tolerance For Silence Neil Young - Arc (35 mins of feedback)
and my new favourite ... a disc I bought last week
The Enid - Aerie Faerie Nonsense ... at the moment I need little convincing about the nonsense part ...
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the dragon
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Joined: May 17 2005
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 02:08 |
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Still alive...
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AtomHeartMother
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 02:45 |
boo boo wrote:
i once did some scientific research for a project, my discovery?, pink floyd's the final cut is phisicaly impossible for any creature to listen to in its entirety....scientific fact. |
What are you talking about, I love this album, its one of the best Water's album after the wall the only one better is Amused to Death. This album is so touching and beatifull, sometimes makes me want to cry, and it's the only album that does. This is one of those albums that you either love it or you hate it.
I say so what if Nick and Dave are hardly in it. When they are, they come in like a cannon and just explode and really make the album feel even more emotional. So what if Rick is absent, he didn't want to make anymore material for Roger and if he was still in the band he would have hated it and not made up any new ideas for the album justike on the wall. Not saying Rick's bad but he is easily replaced (only on this album, any others would have been very aparent, and I beleive any album before this one needed him.) and anyways, anything he made for that album would have been refused by Waters, so it's not like he could contribute. Waters wanted a slow, somber, subtle album that didn't heavily require atmosphere that Rick was good at putting on a song or album. This is a perfect album and yes it is hard the first 1-5listens, but if you really appreciate Waters then you will know it's was he has to say when he writes a song, not what he has to play, and that being said it takes someone who appreciates Waters for that to like this album.
Once you discover that there is more to this man than music you will see that he has something important to say and that's why you should like him and this album that is 100% him. It's not supposed to be Pink Floyd even though the others are in it so the best way to learn to like it is to finnally forget about what's not there and see and feel what is there. Appreciate Dave's perfect solo's, and Nick's excellent drumming that is a little rare in album's after Darkside.
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AtomHeartMother
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Joined: June 18 2005
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 03:02 |
sorry i pretty much had to review the album but i hate when ppl say they hate this album just becuasae of stupid reasons like, " oh, wheres dave, rogers voice is sooooo bad, they kicked rick out i hate roger, he jsut wines about his dad and the war."
None of these are as true as they sound and thats what anyone says the first time they listen to it, i hated it to and sayd all these things but i learned to like it for what it was and had, not for what it didnt have and ect.
good night, im off to bed
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BiGi
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Joined: June 01 2005
Location: Italy
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 03:04 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Arteum wrote:
Radiohead! Of course, I cannot stand Radiohead! You think I am just a very irritable person ... but I am usually very quiet and tolerating ... But Radiohead is killing me with its whining. I find it impossible to listen to for more than 5 minutes. |
I couldn't agree more!! One of the worst bands I've ever heard.
No Pussyfooting by Fripp and Eno is also one of the most irritating experiences of my life; 40 minutes of repetitive mindless noodling. |
Try Electronic Sounds by George Harrison and you'll tell me!
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A flower?
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BiGi
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 03:28 |
I really can't bear the kind of music based exclusively on improvisation (that's why I don't dig jazz) or compositions which lack a precise melody line.
Besides this there are some more "organic" works that I find very hard to listen through interely!
I'll make some example:
Improvisation music
I tried Can, I tried Soft Machine and the like...I failed! Moon in June communicates absolutely nothing to me, and after 5 minutes or so I'm absolutely bored! Same thing goes with Valentyne Suite by Colosseum...
Pointless compositions
Preface: I love King Crimson...I think the Wetton-era threesome are their best efforts...
Yet I simply can't get through Providence or Starless and Bible Black, or We'll let you know...they simply get on my nerves
Ditto with some Pink Floyd's experimentation like Careful with that axe, Eugene or A Saucerful of Secrets (save the last four minutes or so) or even Sysyphus and The Grand Vizier's Garden Party...
Simply HEAVY works
I like very much Spock's Beard, and I think Neal Morse is a very gifted composer...but it takes me two-three sessions to listen to Snow, Testimony and One...I must take them by little bits, otherwise I get bored and annoyed to the point I have to turn off the player! Same things happen with some Citizen Cain works (I can't handle a single complete run of Raising the Stones)
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A flower?
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IDDQD
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Joined: May 20 2005
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 19:52 |
Someone mentioned Trout Mask Replica. I think I'll second that one.
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shand
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 20:00 |
The Minstrel wrote:
What album is the hardest for you to listen to,
not because it is bad but because the music is overly bizarre or
complex. |
Seems like about half of you missed the point here. For me, it's gotta
be Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - ...Of Natural History. A great, great
album, but sometimes the dissonance and bizarreness becomes just too
much.
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IDDQD
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 20:07 |
Trotsky wrote:
A few that have been mentioned here already ...
Can - Tago Mago Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory
plus two borderline recordings by non-prog artists
Pat Metheny - Zero Tolerance For Silence Neil Young - Arc (35 mins of feedback)
and my new favourite ... a disc I bought last week
The Enid - Aerie Faerie Nonsense ... at the moment I need little convincing about the nonsense part ... |
There are parts of Tago Mago that are difficult, but when taken
into context with Can's surronding works of that era, it's rather easy
to digest. I still haven't braved a full listen to Trout Mask
Replica, and I admit that that Magma album is difficult as hell,
but The Power and the Glory difficult? Gentle Giant is just so
nice sounding, albeit with plenty of weirdness.
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 20:08 |
Anything by Gong....just cannot get them...............makes my blod curl.
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IDDQD
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 22:45 |
Again, Gong? Angel's Egg sounds rather relaxing to me. Maybe
this is because I come from a background of listening to extreme metal
that I don't find some of these albums to be all that difficult to
listen to.
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Hangedman
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Joined: November 03 2004
Location: Canada
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 23:06 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Hangedman:
If you like Franks Wild Years, do you know The Black Rider, too? I love that album ... but the vocals can make people mad (it get's everyone out of the room quickly when I play it at work).
BTW: Does anyone know Mahogany Songspiel?
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no i dont, but ill check it out (i should like it if its anything like 80's tom waits)
ps. sorry it took me so long to reply
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DarHobo
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 23:13 |
the dragon wrote:
[IMG]height=150 alt=Ummagumma src="http://www.progressiverock.com/covers/44.jpg" width=150 border=1> |
Ah, Ummagumma, very crazy!
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 23:27 |
most Krautrock, albums specially can can't listen to no more that 10 minutes henry cow faust hawkwind!!!!!
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DarHobo
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 23:40 |
Is it weird that I have grown so much to Captain Beefheart that sometimes I will have "Moonlight on vermont's" lyrics stuck in my head?
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nousommedusolei
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Joined: April 26 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: July 08 2005 at 02:09 |
I have a few jazz albums that I've had difficulty listening to.
Get up with it - Miles Davis
Sextant - Herbie Hancock
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Yurkspb
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Posted: July 08 2005 at 03:17 |
1. The second side of 666 by Aphrodite's Children - it seems total mess to me.
2. Thrakkatack (or how does it spell right?) - you may get a mental disorder listening to this.
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Posted: July 08 2005 at 18:17 |
Since when were henry co and hawkwind krautrock?????????............most female singers are bloody hard to listen to, especially are they are usually about baby's love and spewy things like that.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: November 01 2006 at 10:39 |
I like Trout Mask Replica, and don't see any problems with that one. The most inacessible would be Fantômas.
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Stefanovic
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Posted: November 01 2006 at 10:45 |
anything by Celine Dion !
I actually don't have any problem with difficult music... the more challenging, the better...
Well, I have to admit some Zorn-noise (aka Weird Little Boy with Mike Patton) is not the easiest listening experience I had...
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