Fourth of July

gdub411 wrote: Joren wrote: Maybe we should burn all flags, the symbol of all the bad things a "nation" can bring up in people. NATIONALISM SUCKS Why celebrate the fourth of July? It's an excuse for having a day off from work...that's good enough for me.

I'd rather work than celebrate the fourth of July

For all our differences, I'd still like to wish my American brothers/sisters a (late) Happy fourth! Whereas most people around the world disagree with the current US administration, all in all, the majority of American citizens are good people.

A sincere Happy Holiday from your drunk neighbours to the north.

gdub411 wrote: Joren wrote: gdub411 wrote: Joren wrote: Maybe we should burn all flags, the symbol of all the bad things a "nation" can bring up in people. NATIONALISM SUCKS Why celebrate the fourth of July? It's an excuse for having a day off from work...that's good enough for me. I'd rather work than celebrate the fourth of July Joren...quite seriously...your anti-american rhetoric has become quite bothersome. I don't bad mouth your country, so show the same respect.

Or my favorite phrase in this circumstance..."I don't come down to where you work and slap the d--k out of your mouth"

Could someone please name one freedom that Americans have, that is denied us Brits. We can even smoke Cuban cigars with impunity.

emdiar wrote: Could someone please name one freedom that Americans have, that is denied us Brits. We can even smoke Cuban cigars with impunity.

oh, now the British are all for freedom and liberty after their oppressive empire falls apart

let's not forget England would be a German Territory if America hadn't kept you in the war, so enjoy your freedoms.

JrKASperov wrote: gdub411 wrote: Joren...quite seriously...your anti-american rhetoric has become quite bothersome. I don't bad mouth your country, so show the same respect. Your false argumentation makes me laugh. Joren doesn't care if you would bad-mouth his country, maybe agree with a lot of the things you have critique about. Try the same with you, and you'll call us bothersome.

I know Joren wasn't really bad mouthing america. I am quite aware he was referring to nationism and why celebrate it. I was going to correct it, but I was too lazy to bother. I still find it annoying. Him saying he would rather work is just silly. I get 8 holidays in a year and I am glad to have the day off is all I was saying. I didn't attend any fire work displays. I ended up staying home and talking to your sorry asses all day. What few extra days I can get away from work is well appreciated. Perhaps he just doesn't work 50+ hours/week to understand how nice it is when there is a reprieve from the mundane. because of that he was bothersome and I needed to swat him like the annoying bug he was yesterday.

 

gdub411 wrote: Tony R wrote: NetsNJFan wrote: emdiar wrote: Could someone please name one freedom that Americans have, that is denied us Brits. We can even smoke Cuban cigars with impunity. oh, now the British are all for freedom and liberty after their oppressive empire falls apart let's not forget England would be a German Territory if America hadn't kept you in the war, so enjoy your freedoms. Bollocks. Germany and France might have been Russian Territory,maybe.... I find it amusing how you Euro's downplay the United States role in the war.

Not at all.Merely replying to thr previous inaccurate post....

My view without the US...Russia drives the Germans back to the Dneiper River( I think that is what it is called), the Germans dig in and stop the Russian advance, because Germany is still able to commit many of its airplanes to the Eastern front since the USA will not be adding their airforce to the English which in turn means the strategic bombing campaign is far less successful.

The war becomes deadlocked with neither side gaining any new ground. Eventually Hitler dies and Germany sues for peace.

Snow Dog wrote: gdub411 wrote: Tony R wrote: NetsNJFan wrote: emdiar wrote: Could someone please name one freedom that Americans have, that is denied us Brits. We can even smoke Cuban cigars with impunity. oh, now the British are all for freedom and liberty after their oppressive empire falls apart let's not forget England would be a German Territory if America hadn't kept you in the war, so enjoy your freedoms. Bollocks. Germany and France might have been Russian Territory,maybe.... I find it amusing how you Euro's downplay the United States role in the war. I find it amusing that Americans not only downplay the Soviet Unions and Britains role in the war, but also believe that they aloone won it! Hilarious!

I am far too much of a history buff and I know better. Both the British and Russians were ass kickers. I have always admired Great Britain's feats in WWII. Not ALL Americans feel that way. Although, I may tell you that to rile you up at some future time.

PS...what the Germans did was absolutely incredible on a military standpoint alone.

Snow Dog wrote: gdub411 wrote: Snow Dog wrote: gdub411 wrote: Tony R wrote: NetsNJFan wrote: emdiar wrote: Could someone please name one freedom that Americans have, that is denied us Brits. We can even smoke Cuban cigars with impunity. oh, now the British are all for freedom and liberty after their oppressive empire falls apart let's not forget England would be a German Territory if America hadn't kept you in the war, so enjoy your freedoms. Bollocks. Germany and France might have been Russian Territory,maybe.... I find it amusing how you Euro's downplay the United States role in the war. I find it amusing that Americans not only downplay the Soviet Unions and Britains role in the war, but also believe that they aloone won it! Hilarious! I am far too much of a history buff and I know better. Both the British and Russians were ass kickers. I have always admired Great Britain's feats in WWII. Not ALL Americans feel that way. Although, I may tell you that to rile you up at some future time. PS...what the Germans did was absolutely incredible on a military standpoint alone. No doubt, the German Army were Tops! If it hadn't been for the RAF Britain would have been virtually defenceless and America would have been too late for us!

Yes the RAF was very key in the Battle of Britain. To actually conquer you guys, though, I think Germany would have had to land its forces on that island of yours and that would have proven most difficult with that enormous navy of yours.

I wonder how the Germans would have fared if they would have concentrated on bombing military installations instead of civilian targets....

In 1939-1940 the US army was a joke. While it was discusting that we didn't lend a hand until we were virtually forced to, I doubt we would have been much help militarily until 1942 anyhoo.