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rcdupre 
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 Posted: July 06 2005 at 14:43 |
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Captian Beefheart- Trout Mask Repilca
Comus - First Utterance
all Amon Duul
Zappa - Uncle Meat
Harvester
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Gluonio
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:52 |
Soft Machine was a quite difficult one for me.But I like them now! 
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...But my dreams are for dreaming and best left that way-and my zero to your power of ten equals nothing at all...
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Cinema
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:34 |
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How about everything from Ozric Tentacles ... which I don't really like much.
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Third Eye
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:28 |
Speaking of prog bands: "Invisible Touch" by Genesis is of course the most difficult. It's impossible to get through it!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:18 |
Hangedman:
If you like Franks Wild Years, do you know The Black Rider, too? I love that album ... but the vocals can make people mad (it get's everyone out of the room quickly when I play it at work).
BTW: Does anyone know Mahogany Songspiel?
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Hangedman
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:15 |
Ive heard pretty much everything listed (not sleepytime gorilla museum however) and dont find most of it difficult. Love fantomas, bungle, henry cow, all of it (I have listened to 'The Final Cut' all the way through once, and wont do so again untill I get the surrond sound version... and surrond sound... its a toughy  ). But the most unlistenable album ever made is not progressive. Its Tom Waits' "Franks Wild Years", easily a 5/5 by the way, the end of the trilogy and deals with broken dreams lost love insanity and suicide. The emotional power is unbelieveable, and the arrangements are brilliant. I honestly go from being sick to my stomach to nearly crying while listening to the album, terrible experiance, and quite possibly the most artistic peice of music ive ever heard.
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:01 |
 MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
Fantomas:I have a copy of The Director's Cut,and it's not received my customary "three spin" evaluation as 2 were quite enough for one lifetime....
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That album took more than 10 spins for me to reach the "love it!" status. It's their most difficult album (Dave Lombardo said that this one was the hardest one to play), and if you listen closely, you'll notice lots of little gimmicks happening ... if you can bear the noise, that is.
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Mike,give me your home address and I'll send you my eardrums for repair....
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:57 |
Tony R wrote:
Fantomas:I have a copy of The Director's Cut,and it's not received my customary "three spin" evaluation as 2 were quite enough for one lifetime....
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That album took more than 10 spins for me to reach the "love it!" status. It's their most difficult album (Dave Lombardo said that this one was the hardest one to play), and if you listen closely, you'll notice lots of little gimmicks happening ... if you can bear the noise, that is.
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:46 |
Fantomas:I have a copy of The Director's Cut,and it's not received my customary "three spin" evaluation as 2 were quite enough for one lifetime....
Like I said,I'm still at the stage where GG are "difficult" to me.Given 5 years (to listen,not confinement) I might just grow into the more esoteric bands.....
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:33 |
Tony R wrote:
That is totally unfair!!! on the other forum members-it describes my forum discussions very accurately!
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No it isn't.
Edit: So you liked none of them (Bungle, Fantomas, Dillinger)?
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:31 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
At the moment most of the music that consensus says is "difficult" is totally impenetrable to me.However this site is gradually refining and re-defining my tastes !
I am at a stage where I find GG and VDGG "difficult" and Magma "crap" (that's not to say they that are,just that I find them totally dissonant )
However 12 months ago GG and VDGG were at the "crap" stage so I am making progress!
In 6 months time I expect to be liking GG,appreciating VDGG and finding Magma difficult.
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Did you try a little Mr. Bungle, Fantomas or Dillinger Escape Plan? Just for variety ...
Sure did,ouch,arggh,ouch!
BTW: Love your Monty Python signature! It really describes forum discussions quite accurately.
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That is totally unfair!!! on the other forum members-it describes my forum discussions very accurately!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:25 |
Tony R wrote:
At the moment most of the music that consensus says is "difficult" is totally impenetrable to me.However this site is gradually refining and re-defining my tastes !
I am at a stage where I find GG and VDGG "difficult" and Magma "crap" (that's not to say they that are,just that I find them totally dissonant )
However 12 months ago GG and VDGG were at the "crap" stage so I am making progress!
In 6 months time I expect to be liking GG,appreciating VDGG and finding Magma difficult.
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Did you try a little Mr. Bungle, Fantomas or Dillinger Escape Plan? Just for variety ...
BTW: Love your Monty Python signature! It really describes forum discussions quite accurately.
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:15 |
At the moment most of the music that consensus says is "difficult" is totally impenetrable to me.However this site is gradually refining and re-defining my tastes !
I am at a stage where I find GG and VDGG "difficult" and Magma "crap" (that's not to say they that are,just that I find them totally dissonant )
However 12 months ago GG and VDGG were at the "crap" stage so I am making progress!
In 6 months time I expect to be liking GG,appreciating VDGG and finding Magma difficult.
Edited by Tony R
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:01 |
AbsentEnemy wrote:
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
I really love their whole insanely technical hardcore sound but it can only be taken in small dosages.
Or atleast on this album. Miss Machine is a little more diverse.
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I second that - Calculating Infinity is a tough one.
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AbsentEnemy
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 16:56 |
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The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
I really love their whole insanely technical hardcore sound but it can only be taken in small dosages.
Or atleast on this album. Miss Machine is a little more diverse.
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" If the company of tumbleweed is unexpected fun, you're a cactus..."
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nacho
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 16:10 |
Rhayader wrote:
Pink Floyd's The Wall.
If you'll excuse me, I need to hide behind these sandbags....
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No need to hide. Look, if you really want to be lapidated you have to say this:
Sorry, mates, but I really can't get into Mariah Carey's work. Way too difficult for me. Oh, and I also tried Spice Girls but couldn't get to the end of any of their albums...
Now I see it coming
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Eppur si muove
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Violenza
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 15:54 |
I usually struggle trying to get though any Pink Floyd album. I just don't get it.
And oddly enough, like Politician, I don't find most of the albums listed here difficult at all.
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 15:16 |
Rhayader wrote:
Pink Floyd's The Wall.
If you'll excuse me, I need to hide behind these sandbags....
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I agree, it might not be the world's most unlistenably Progressive Rock album, but it is definitely not easy to listen to. It at times just bores me to death.
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tuxon
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 15:15 |
Arsillus wrote:
Pretty much all Magma.
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It was an immediate likeable affair for me really. I was a bit weary at first seing so many people rambling about how difficult it was to get into.
So when I downloaded it, I didn't have high hopes since basically I prefer the 'simple' music of neo-prog bands. but once I listend to the three available downloads from this site, it was practicaly love at first listen. 
to answer the question.
Leg end from Henry Cow is indeed a difficult listen, but they promised me it will be rewarding once you got through it, so I'll try again some more.
Also Union from Yes, I can't listen to it, without boring myself to tears (sorry fans of Union)
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Politician
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 12:53 |
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Personally, I find "difficult" music (Henry Cow, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum,
Comus, Velvet Underground, experimental Krautrock et al) easy to listen
to, as it holds my attention.
It's the most mainstream, melodic neoprogressive that I find more of a
trial, especially when these albums are long (and they usually seem to
be). MAGENTA's "Revolutions" is a prime case in point - it's pleasant and
inoffensive enough, but why did a band signally lacking any original ideas
or an identifiable sound of their own decide to debut with a 90 minute
double album filled with 20 minute conceptual suites? Likewise, I found
KARNATAKA's live double hard to sit through, as the whole thing is so
mellifluous and listless.
Another good example is the Italian band PROWLERS. They're actually an
above-average neoprog outfit, with a pleasing sound hinting at classic
Renaissance as well as Italian seventies stuff like APOTEOSI and SAINT
JUST, but all three of their albums would be a lot more enjoyable if they
were shorter and more tightly edited (one runs for two hours!).
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