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SW being dick is all over his career LOL

From early-PT where he calls Flower Kings the "death" of progressive rock, to this, and later on silent expeling Colin from PT.
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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

I find Minnemann and Govan's contributions to SW's albums much better and engaging when it's part of better tracks. I think SW is very good at creating great songs and stories. When he threw some great musicians into the mix, it became something incredible (Raven, HCE).
Yes they are both incredible albums because of Marco's and Guthrie's input and when they went gold I'm sure you heard what Steven did???

From Marco's now deleted Facebook post. "Yes, some of the people involved in these productions had to learn through social media that these albums went gold. I seriously had no idea, so thanks for letting me know 😊. Well and what can I say, also at the end of the day they're SW's albums and he decides whom to share the success with. From what I've heard, some gold awards were given to one half of the band and the other half was excluded and not notified (very likely because of our decision for other band and touring commitments)."

And later this.. "Well, to be honest, Raven and HCE are the only gold awards in that catalogue, aren't they... And excluding us, just because we cherish our own band The Aristocrats and refuse to ass crawl, is kind of a dick move...."

Enjoy The Overview.
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I loved the new album, IMO, I enjoy much more this direction than FoBP, Insurgentes or Raven lol
Give me more semi-ozric electronic stuff.

Here's my rating for his solo albums:

S: Harmony Codex, Hand: Cannot: Erase, The Overview, Grace for Drowning
A: The Future Bites
B: Raven That Refused to Sing, To The Bone
C: Insurgentes, 4 1/2
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Just lurking.
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Blimey, Tony is back (I'll go and hide now LOL)
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Since this has turned into a topic about The Aristocrats...

I listened a bit to their first album, but their style never clicked for me. They are all incredibly gifted players, but the format just isn't for me. I won't call it wiskery....wopkery?..., but music with too much guitar wackery doesn't grab me. 

I find Minnemann and Govan's contributions to SW's albums much better and engaging when it's part of better tracks. I think SW is very good at creating great songs and stories. When he threw some great musicians into the mix, it became something incredible (Raven, HCE).
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

You missed Winkery?  Or Whiskery, which might be how it is said after a few too many shots.  (Never mind, his is too many letters for the 2 stars).

Wunkery?
Watkery?
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You missed Winkery?  Or Whiskery, which might be how it is said after a few too many shots.  (Never mind, this is too many letters for the 2 stars).

Edited by rushfan4 - March 19 2025 at 17:23
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...........w**kery
Wickery?
Wackery?
Wiskery?
Weekery?
Waakery?
Wozkery?
Witkery?
Wopkery?
Weakery?
Whakery?

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Seeing Guthrie and Marco live is intense, both are amazing and so creative in what they do. 
Yep, and the albums they created as The Aristocrats are much more entertaining than SW.


Really? The endless w**kery sends me to sleep eventually. Compose some songs will ya?
Hmm, is this endless w**kery?



w**kery is in the eye of the beholder.
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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Seeing Guthrie and Marco live is intense, both are amazing and so creative in what they do. 
Yep, and the albums they created as The Aristocrats are much more entertaining than SW.


Really? The endless w**kery sends me to sleep eventually. Compose some songs will ya?
Hmm, is this endless w**kery?

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Been a long long time.
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Damn it's good to see a post from the horse. Cheers man.

I was happy as well.....Although will probably have nightmares tonight with that horse chasing me, while I am riding my Big Wheel down the sidewalk at Disneyland......
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Sadly no show closer than a couple hours drive, still tempting, though! 

A perfectly decent album, one that'll grow with re-listens I'm sure, as of now it's a 6.5/10
The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.

Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time...
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Damn it's good to see a post from the horse. Cheers man.
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Seeing Guthrie and Marco live is intense, both are amazing and so creative in what they do. 
Yep, and the albums they created as The Aristocrats are much more entertaining than SW.


Really? The endless w**kery sends me to sleep eventually. Compose some songs will ya?
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Seeing Guthrie and Marco live is intense, both are amazing and so creative in what they do. 
Yep, and the albums they created as The Aristocrats are much more entertaining than SW.
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^ After having listened to the Disconnected Version today, I'm leaning towards 8/10 again ... but on the low side (like 80/100). 
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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Some interesting comments and it seems everyone is trying to be kind because, well, it’s Steven Wilson!
I make it a 6/10 album because, like the curate’s egg, it’s good in parts. I think the Endless River comparisons are harsh but get the idea.
I think H.C.E is one of the greatest Progressive Rock albums of all time and The Raven is a stellar Prog Rock album too. This is no Raven and certainly no H.C.E and I agree with those who suggest he is better with a fixed band of stellar musicians as he had with those two works of genius. Guthrie and Marco are just incredible and certainly Guthrie is a world class guitarist who Wilson pushed to adapt his style to produce a body of work that transcends his previous playing.
I think Wilson thinks he’s created a DSOTM for the 21st Century but in reality he nearly re-created his own Endless River.
For as many years I have seen your avatar, it still freaks me out!! Still love it.....

I can relate to a 6/10 for this album, it might rise to 7 but with GFD at an 8 for me, that's not enough of a spread because GFD is very very good IMO! I may rate the album on its own higher but in the context of his catalog and HCE, Raven, GFD and Insurgentes that does not leave a lot of room for The Overview.....

Seeing Guthrie and Marco live is intense, both are amazing and so creative in what they do. 
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