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Originally posted by Nergdnur Ddot Nergdnur Ddot wrote:

Of course, Steely Dan or Supertramp comes to mind.

Despite bassist Dougie Thompson's love for sailing, linking Supertramp to Yacht Rock (prog or not) is preposterous. 
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I see yacht rock as a purely American cultural phenomenon.  
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

I see yacht rock as a purely American cultural phenomenon.  

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I would say The Alan Parsons Project, Ambrosia (late 70s) and maybe also late 70s and early 80s Genesis.


Genesis's Throwing It All Away soundss yacht rocky to me.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

I see yacht rock as a purely American cultural phenomenon.  

I'd say West Coast, South California (though the occasional Frisco act can be included), generally LA-Based and AOR-minded or folk/soft/country-rock. 
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I would say The Alan Parsons Project, Ambrosia (late 70s) and maybe also late 70s and early 80s Genesis.


Genesis's Throwing It All Away soundss yacht rocky to me.


Don't know if it's Yacht Rock, but it is a bad song.
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Rick Wright - Wet Dream (1978) - perfect yacht rock IMO.
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Quote Progressive Yacht Rock?
just call it "KScope catalogue", no need for a new tag
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I think a more interesting topic of discussion would be: what sub-genre of prog (or a sub-genre related to prog) is equivalent to Yacht Rock as a sub-genre of (Classic) Rock? i.e. Yacht Rock is to Classic Rock as ______ is to prog. (You fill in the blank)
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Quote Progressive Yacht Rock?
just call it "KScope catalogue", no need for a new tag




And most on Inside Out's catalogue Evil Smile
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I guess if you take the most progressive songs by bands and artists typically considered yacht rock (and I agree that it's mostly an American thing) you would have prog yacht rock. So those artists would be (imo):


Ambrosia (later)
America
Batdorf & Rodney
Bread
Christopher Cross
Crosby, Stills and Nash (maybe but since I like them I'm hoping they don't qualify :P)
Eagles
Seals & Crofts
Dan Fogelberg
Jackson Browne
Poco (maybe - not that familiar with them)
Doobie Brothers
Steely Dan
Toto (maybe -same reason as CSN)
Loggins & Messina (and also Kenny Loggins solo)


Possibly a few others too.



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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I guess if you take the most progressive songs by bands and artists typically considered yacht rock (and I agree that it's mostly an American thing) you would have prog yacht rock. So those artists would be (imo):


Ambrosia (later)
America
Bread
Christopher Cross
Crosby, Stills and Nash (maybe but since I like them I'm hoping they don't qualify :P)
Eagles
Seals & Crofts
Dan Fogelberg
Jackson Browne
Poco (maybe - not that familiar with them)
Doobie Brothers
Steely Dan
Toto (maybe -same reason as CSN)
Loggins & Messina (and also Kenny Loggins solo)


Possibly a few others too.


Toto?! They don't fit under yacht rock, even with their occasional ballads. They could really rock at times. 
To me, they're a melodic hard rock band. 
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Good. I like to think that the stuff I like doesn't qualify (most of it anyway). What about Fleetwood Mac? They might qualify too but I won't add them.

Also I just added Batdorf & Rodney who were a bit of a CSN clone. I only know about them because of Sirius XM's Deep Tracks. 


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Ok, according to google Fleetwood Mac aren't typically considered yacht rock (apart from a few ballads) but Toto are considered yacht rock.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Doobie Brothers

Possibly a few others too.


the Doobies were from  the Grander Frisco area (San José if memory serves) and were certainly not Yachtey  until they were colonized by ex-Steelies (Skunk & MMcD) and moved to LA.


Frisco again: Quicksilver (ex-QMS) were a bit yatchey as well with Solid Silver, and even the alum sleeve showed it.

I'd add to that list  yet another Frisco band called Pablo Cruise (who had a couple of proggy songs in their first couple of albums) 


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Doobie Brothers

Possibly a few others too.


the Doobies were from  the Grander Frisco area (San José if memory serves) and were certainly not Yachtey  until they were colonized by ex-Steelies (Skunk & MMcD) and moved to LA.


Frisco again: Quicksilver (ex-QMS) were a bit yatchey as well with Solid Silver, and even the alum sleeve showed it.

I'd add to that list  yet another Frisco band called Pablo Cruise (who had a couple of proggy songs in their first couple of albums) 


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You're absolutely right about the Doobies. I was thinking of the later McDonald era for yacht rock. P.C. is a band I usually forget about but I'm sure they qualify too for those who even remeber them. It does seem like yacht rock is primarily a California thing and also mostly a 70s thing.
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The only yacht rock band mentioned that meets the "progressive" definition is Steely Dan.
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Again I will posit the question: what is the equivalent of "yacht rock" in the prog world? What kind of music combines high production value and a sophisticated and jazzy approach to harmony with accessibility and some cheese in the realm of prog?
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