Progressive Yacht Rock?
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Topic: Progressive Yacht Rock?
Posted By: Nergdnur Ddot
Subject: Progressive Yacht Rock?
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 12:54
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Of course, Steely Dan or Supertramp comes to mind. But one of the best examples would be Daryl Hall & John Oates' War Babies, which is actually more of a Todd Rundren album. If you have other examples, please share.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 13:27
No such thing.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 13:38
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I usually think of ASIA and Wettons Ballads. ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/new-2025-broken-hearts-troubled-minds |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 13:51
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I thought it was cruise ship rock. Yachts are too small to fit the keyboards and drum sets. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 13:57
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progaardvark wrote:Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 14:02
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Speaking of Todd Rundgren, this one floats near the harbor... ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/new-2025-broken-hearts-troubled-minds |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 14:09
| 80s Moody Blues and 80s Roxy Music are YRR, (yacht rock related). Possibly "From the Beginning" by ELP is YRR also. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 21:08
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Chicago - VII Fleetwood Mac - Rumours Al Stewart - Year Of The Cat Alan Parsons Project - Pyramid 10CC - How Dare You! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_yacht_rock_artists" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_yacht_rock_artists |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 21:28
 ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 21:30
Carl Palmer's drum set would have sank a yacht. |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 21:34
| Ambrosia first 3 releases would possibly fit the Prog Yacht Rock bill. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 21:44
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Genesis solo albums including Collin's debut "Face Value," both of Gabriel's first releases (Car and Scratch), and Rutherford's "Mike & the Mechanics." ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 00:35
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"Gino Vannelli - Brother to Brother" to me perfectly fits that label ------------- 
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 09:52
No. Just no. That's not remotely "yacht rock," prog or otherwise.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 13:14
You've obviously not been introduced to our oligarchs. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 14:06
Actually it fits the general description of yacht rock rather well. The OP asked for Progressive Yacht rock--- that ain't Gordon Lightfoot or Christopher Cross. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 14:27
| Although he isn't in the Jazz Rock/Fusion group here (but probably should be), I'd be inclined to put Jeff Lorber Fusion in this group (Prog Y R)... |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: March 10 2025 at 14:39
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Supertramp started as prog-rock then became art-rock.. Even "Breakfast in America" (album) is prog-pop, but they don't connect songs, because a 20 minute song would usually get some to think "its prog" ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 10 2025 at 19:21
For me they made at least 4 better albums although this sees them move away from the hard rock style more typical of the band on Give Us A Wink and Desolation Boulevard. Love Is Like Oxygen is okay but that is literally the only thing that sticks out that I can remember.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 10 2025 at 21:22
| I would say The Alan Parsons Project, Ambrosia (late 70s) and maybe also late 70s and early 80s Genesis. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 11 2025 at 04:35
Despite bassist Dougie Thompson's love for sailing, linking Supertramp to Yacht Rock (prog or not) is preposterous. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 08:29
| I see yacht rock as a purely American cultural phenomenon. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 08:56
True.  |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 10:08
Genesis's Throwing It All Away soundss yacht rocky to me. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 10:09
I'd say West Coast, South California (though the occasional Frisco act can be included), generally LA-Based and AOR-minded or folk/soft/country-rock. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 10:12
Don't know if it's Yacht Rock, but it is a bad song. |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 11:33
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Rick Wright - Wet Dream (1978) - perfect yacht rock IMO. ------------- "Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 18:05
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 21:30
| I think a more interesting topic of discussion would be: what sub-genre of prog (or a sub-genre related to prog) is equivalent to Yacht Rock as a sub-genre of (Classic) Rock? i.e. Yacht Rock is to Classic Rock as ______ is to prog. (You fill in the blank) |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 22:04
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Warren Zevon. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 04:04
 And most on Inside Out's catalogue  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:06
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I guess if you take the most progressive songs by bands and artists typically considered yacht rock (and I agree that it's mostly an American thing) you would have prog yacht rock. So those artists would be (imo): Ambrosia (later) America Batdorf & Rodney Bread Christopher Cross Crosby, Stills and Nash (maybe but since I like them I'm hoping they don't qualify :P) Eagles Seals & Crofts Dan Fogelberg Jackson Browne Poco (maybe - not that familiar with them) Doobie Brothers Steely Dan Toto (maybe -same reason as CSN) Loggins & Messina (and also Kenny Loggins solo) Possibly a few others too. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:09
Toto?! They don't fit under yacht rock, even with their occasional ballads. They could really rock at times. To me, they're a melodic hard rock band.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:13
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Good. I like to think that the stuff I like doesn't qualify (most of it anyway). What about Fleetwood Mac? They might qualify too but I won't add them. Also I just added Batdorf & Rodney who were a bit of a CSN clone. I only know about them because of Sirius XM's Deep Tracks.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:16
| Ok, according to google Fleetwood Mac aren't typically considered yacht rock (apart from a few ballads) but Toto are considered yacht rock. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:18
the Doobies were from the Grander Frisco area (San José if memory serves) and were certainly not Yachtey until they were colonized by ex-Steelies (Skunk & MMcD) and moved to LA. Frisco again: Quicksilver (ex-QMS) were a bit yatchey as well with Solid Silver, and even the alum sleeve showed it. I'd add to that list yet another Frisco band called Pablo Cruise (who had a couple of proggy songs in their first couple of albums) . ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:25
You're absolutely right about the Doobies. I was thinking of the later McDonald era for yacht rock. P.C. is a band I usually forget about but I'm sure they qualify too for those who even remeber them. It does seem like yacht rock is primarily a California thing and also mostly a 70s thing.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:46
| The only yacht rock band mentioned that meets the "progressive" definition is Steely Dan. |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 23 2025 at 00:14
| Again I will posit the question: what is the equivalent of "yacht rock" in the prog world? What kind of music combines high production value and a sophisticated and jazzy approach to harmony with accessibility and some cheese in the realm of prog? |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 23 2025 at 00:57
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 23 2025 at 03:34
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first of all, to manage to become a yacht rock band, one must one sell-out totally to be able to afford to buy the yacht.... unless stealing the label owner's own ship. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: pauldunhill
Date Posted: March 23 2025 at 11:14
| I find yacht rock to be a manufactured genre. It was never used at the time by any of the usually cited protagonists. Just the media trying to invent a new genre retrospectively… |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 08 2025 at 19:16
| Have Toto been mentioned yet? I was recently listening to their first album and while it's not pure prog I still think it qualifies. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: April 08 2025 at 21:15
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 11 2025 at 10:57
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I play The Residents "Eskimo" when I want to get people off of my damn yacht!! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 11 2025 at 23:55
don't forget the most 'bullsh*tty' one of all ''Eclectic''. Weird bands with no direction, yep they must be eclectic.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 11 2025 at 23:57
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Loving all the additional visible code when you use quotes
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 12 2025 at 09:02
That was you!
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 12 2025 at 09:04
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Oh wait, I guess me too. WTH.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: April 12 2025 at 22:33
| Why is my response to Jazzsucher from March 24th still "pending approval"? Did I do something wrong? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 12 2025 at 22:42
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^ Probably because the post & member you replied to was suspended for some reason, so your post was out of context and therefore hidden. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 01:49
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 06:05
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Hi, I'm not sure you will ever find me on one of those floating tombstones ... something about them scares me ... and it ain't the music!  ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 09:27
If you think about it all genres are 'manufactured' by the fans, critics and collectors. Just saying... ------------- "Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 10:32
That explains why the chocolate-themed thread disappeared without warning recently, as I believe that was posted by Jazzsucher too, although I'm not sure who Svetty is or what he did to get banned in the first place.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 23:13
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In that case I will repost what I had, since it's still relevant: Fair enough. But I'm going to keep it loose in classifying the "prog world." And I'm going to go ahead and answer my own question anyway at the risk of being ignored. I can still keep myself entertained. I say Supertramp is the prog equivalent to yacht rock, particularly with albums like Crisis?... through Famous Last Words. The production is sleak, there's an art rock focus on arrangements, and there's an element of jazziness, but it's very accessible music and occasionally somewhat cheesy (which isn't a bad thing, doesn't always have to be). To be clear, Supertramp is NOT Yacht Rock. But I think Supertramp is to prog as Christopher Cross is to mainstream/classic rock. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 09:44
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the correct answer is still Alan Parsons Project
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 09:51
Alan Parsons Yacht
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: April 19 2025 at 15:30
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Blue as a Jewel - Be Bo0 Deluxe, has the sound at least. Funnier note Donald Fagen didn't take to kindly to the original 'yacht rock' tag. ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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