Why Iron Maiden is better than DT

Actually Greenback, Dickinson wrote only a few songs for IM

DarHobo wrote: "Yeah, there are guitarists out there that are super fast, like John Petrucci, but they are also super lame."                     &nbs p;          &n bsp;                     &nbs p;          &n bsp;    - Alexi Laiho haha I just read that in an issue of guitar world, its so true.

Alexi Laiho is a coke head and also said in that same interview that an energetic performance is better than playing your songs correctly. 

In other words, his excuse for f**king up so much during performances is that he is so "high energy."

Have you listened to Children of Bodom??  Can you say Maiden ripoff done poorly?

Can you play guitar as well as John Petrucci?

Thought not.

WTF maidenrulez?You claim to love DT and post threads talking about how great they are and then bash them in another.All your topics are juvenile "this _______ band rules" or "this______band sucks" or "this______band is better than that_____band".Pointless BS.

DarHobo wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: WTF maidenrulez?You claim to love DT and post threads talking about how great they are and then bash them in another.All your topics are juvenile "this _______ band rules" or "this______band sucks" or "this______band is better than that_____band".Pointless BS. He might have multiple personality disorder?

good point

DarHobo wrote: Besides, he stepped on his own tail and tried to pull out stuff that's way harder than what he can play! His performance on the new Dream Theater DVD is very dissapointing. He messed up on just about every 'shred' section on all of his songs! And his clean solos on Solitary Shell and Hollow Years... well, besides hitting the wrong notes a lot, his string action is so stupidly low that his clean tone is terrible! I could hear nothing but fret buzz... a shame. He's way too sloppy for what he tries to play.

I'm curious ... could you give me an example? What part of which song does he screw up?

Trotsky wrote: I'm a hard-core classic prog fan (90% of my prog is from 68-75) and I distinctly prefer listening to Iron Maiden (own around 8 albums) to Dream Theater (own 3) ... I would never use the word better though ... and most of the points you mentioned maidenrulez, are subjective

I agree.

I would use the terms "I prefer" and "because..."

Doing this ensures a discussion rather than a boring exchange of opinions. This board has a much higher ratio of discussions to slanging matches compared to other forums out there - which is a large part of what keeps me coming back.

I must admit, I prefer listening to Iron Maiden - their early albums (up to and including "Number Of The Beast") are heavy metal classics of the highest order, IMO. Just pretentious enough, very melodic and catchy, driving slabs of power that develop and grow in exactly the right way to provoke an air-guitar attack.

I can listen to "Number..." from start to finish anytime. I can hardly make it to track 3 of the average Dream Theater album without getting bored of waiting for the energy to kick in or the emotions to carry me away. It just doesn't happen. And I never feel like air-guitaring to Petrucci - he just doesn't know how to ROCK, IMO.

Iron Maiden's debut is a total classic too - ragged, raw, tribal power with a pure aggression that makes the so-called Death Metal bands of Norway and suchlike seem somewhat tame. This album contains a double measure of neat, 50% proof feeling and energy.

But anyone who likes metal should own "Head On" by Samson. This not only has more raw energy than Iron Maiden's debut, but it has what that album lacks: Bruce Dickinson on vocals!

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Man, Salmacis & Certif1ed, you guys really got me regretting passing on Samson ... I once saw their first two albums in a bargain bin and moved on ...

in my defence I'd just picked up Procol Harum and Pavlov's Dog albums and was in a big hurry

salmacis wrote: Personally speaking, I much prefer Iron Maiden over Dream Theater, as Maiden are simply one of the most influential bands ever, having had two of the greatest vocalists ever in Di'Anno and Dickinson (let's forget the Blaze Bayley debacle). Maiden's first 8 albums are incredible metal masterworks, and they've recently done their best album in years with 'Dance Of Death'. Glad to see Samson namechecked- I think the album after 'Head On', 'Shock Tactics' is even better- and one of the greatest British metal albums ever- Dickinson is on astounding vocal form. Did anyone ever hear Samson's successor to Bruce, Nicky Moore? That guy has an astonishingly good rock voice.

Yeah, I saw them at a gig in Reading - I didn't really like Moore's voice then - but I suppose Dickinson was a hard act to follow, and there was tons of great metal around. "Riding With The Angels" was a great track.

I've got an (autographed) EP of Samson/Moore - "Losing My Grip", which I won with the gig tickets in a local radio competition - I'll dig it out for a re-listen - thanks for the reminder!

"Head On" really stands out because of the sheer inventiveness on that album - sure the guys were still finding their feet as musicians, but the enthusiasm - especially from the drummer (who was called "Thunderstick", and kept locked in a cage...) and the amazing Paul Samson (RIP).

An indication of Samson's incredible talent is that he went on to play with such rock luminaries as Ric Lee (Ten Years After), Ian Ellis (Savoy Brown) and Chris Farlowe.

Reaper16 wrote: This is very simple. Iron Maiden run rings around Dream Theatre. Mainly becasue DT aren't songwriters. Like, at all. Amazingly talented musicians that don't have very many strong songs. It;s the same problem that plagues Pain of Salvation, although to a lesser degree.

Dream Theater run rings around Iron Maiden in terms of complexity and structure. Iron Maiden write catchy metal songs.