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More ( Main theme is in my top 10 Floyd's tracks) > Clouds (underrated) > Piper
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^ I love that track. It makes me think that it may have had some influence on electronic people like Tangerine Dream, or Popol Vuh, maybe even Jarre.
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^ I think you are right :-)
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Piper is head and shoulders better than the other two, so Piper and selected songs from the other two.
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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

^^ I discarded Zabriskie for not being a Floyd-only album (though I like it), and MFTB for being a Waters-Geesin thing, rather than a proper PF album. I'm not sure if it was a good call, since Piper is such a strong contender, but, on the other hand, both alternatives seemed too weak. To me, at least.

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I think the Zabriskie Point film was a serious problem and Antonioni had issues with the American producers telling him what to do, and in the end, force the film into a story and Antonioni did not create or considered. I think the soundtrack, by PF probably had other details for the film that were never shown or seen, and Antonioni went on to try and disassociate himself from it. 

I like to say that the ZP soundtrack was weak because it was misused and most of it ignored likely because it wasn't an American band the producers could not rob as much. The other two films were directed by Barbet Schroeder, and were better ... MORE is excellent, though many folks don't like the music in the cassette player, which is natural and proper for the film story ... and LA VALLEE ended up a big mess, and the story kinda went sideways and left and then right and then ... who cares ... and the actors were all improvising dialogue ... I'm not sure there was a proper script for the film, but you had some really fine actors from England and then some really fine folks from the Academie Francaise. I kinda think that it was just a party to get stoned, and a story was kinda invented to make the film more than just a bunch of rich folks doing a version of a safari once in their life. I like the music, but it is not exactly about the film at all except maybe one piece and the opening ... which is likely something the Cinematographer created by chance ... Almendros was already known to be a visual cinematographer. He probably made the film interesting so it did not fall apart.
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^ An expanded edition of the ZP album was issued, now I don't remember when, including tracks not used in the film, nor included in the OST. As for More and OBC, I like them infinitely more than the respective films.
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^I think it was around 1997. Various unofficial versions have been floating about the ether too for many years.
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^ Thanks! And I love things floating about the ether, that's where the fun is...
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I just checked my CD version of the expanded Zabriskie Point (well worth a listen), and it was definitely released in 1997 - my lady friend at the time bought it for me for Xmas that year.

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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

I just checked my CD version of the expanded Zabriskie Point (well worth a listen), and it was definitely released in 1997 - my lady friend at the time bought it for me for Xmas that year.

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I think I'm gonna look for it, though it won't help much since the film is cut up so badly so the Hollywood folks could insert the "story" they wanted, which was anti-drugs, already to give you an idea of a lot of Hollywood's dislike for a generation that made good money and not as many studios gained from it ... All you have to do is look at Easy Rider and Five Easy Pieces, and you know that some folks were not happy that some hippies got to make some money because of Hollywood stupidity ... sadly, both films have a sad ending, and it was meant to be an editorial about how so many folks didn't care and did what they wanted.

Pink Floyd, right from the start, did not want to be a part of anything political or media propaganda ... as far as I can tell, so in the end, it became rather off key when RW took the driving seat and became a really sad, overblown old man unhappy with his life and pointing fingers at everyone else ... 
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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

^^ I discarded Zabriskie for not being a Floyd-only album (though I like it), and MFTB for being a Waters-Geesin thing, rather than a proper PF album. I'm not sure if it was a good call, since Piper is such a strong contender, but, on the other hand, both alternatives seemed too weak. To me, at least.


If only they had taken together Floyd's songs from the movie Zabriskie Point with the outakes in a singe CD, they might just as well have been able to complete a pretty good album.
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First option clearly. The soundtracks have highlights but also a fair amount of soundtrack stuff that may work for the movie but isn't too great on its own. Piper is a groundbreaking album and its highlights are even better than those of the other two albums. 
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^ The groundbreaking status of Piper is undeniable, I think, it's just that I'm rather the Cirrus Minor kind...
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Cirrus Minor is one of my top 5 Floyd tracks - I just love the more haunting / ethereal tracks from their earlier stuff. See also: Grantchester Meadows (again in my top 5), and Set the Controls..
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^ Talking about groundbreaking, here we have STCFTHOTS. From Saucerful or from Pompeii?
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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Cirrus Minor is one of my top 5 Floyd tracks - I just love the more haunting / ethereal tracks from their earlier stuff. See also: Grantchester Meadows (again in my top 5), and Set the Controls..


I adore Cirrus Minor. Vladimir Cosma, Michel Bernholc's Patchwork Orchestra 3 is one of my fave releases (library release) and "Quietly" off it reminded me so much of it.



More has some wonderful music on it.



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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Clouds > Piper > More. Before I enter this timeline, I want some assurance that I'm not going to be a thermometer.

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Piper-More-Clouds for me.

There are some fantastic out-takes and alternative versions of Floyd tracks from Zabriske point (as has been mentioned already) and rightly said what a great album a properly mixed/ produced and curated selection of these songs would make. I have got various vinyl versions of bootlegs (starting with Omayyad) which ive picked up over the years.

Definitely feel that 'Cirrus Minor' and 'Grantchester meadows' along with a few other atmospheric floyd pieces of that time are the ultimate 'headphones on, lay back in the grass, in the sunshine and loose yourself (with or without herbal help, as you choose)

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