Going for the One or Wind & Wuthering

Both great albums. GFTO for me, however, as Awaken is on the short list as one of the all time great Prog tracks.

Edited by Big Sky - January 08 2025 at 18:47

W&W is overall more enjoyable- Like other Yes albums Awaken a big standout peppered with just ok songs

Wind & Wuthering of Genesis.

You guys just hate Yes. 

Cristi wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: You guys just hate Yes.  Who hates Yes here?!  it's a tie for now. Very tight poll.

being tongue-in-cheek (as opposed to tongue-in-cheeks -- very tight, maybe too tight).



Edited by Logan - January 09 2025 at 12:26

Cristi wrote: ^ I've never understood what's going on in that cover...

^ Overthinking or underthinking this, probably both... If it was prehistoric man, or ancestors of man, looking at modern skyscrapers, I would get that in a sort of 2001: A Space Odyssey bone turns into space station way. It's providing contrast. It might be saying something about man is his natural state versus man outside of nature.   Artificiality. Innocence vs. artifice. The lines say something of perspective and geometrical form. A certain symmetry. I do think it;s trying to say something about the human condition and how we might seem to incongruously fit into this man-made world. man is small and naked in this built up world. The figure himself looks artificial due to the musculature -- it's an idealised form. I notice Rush kind of did the same buff naked man thing instead of using gangly Geddy Lee as the model. In Guru Guru's Hinten I think they used an actual photo of a band member's bottom (the drummer). I don't think that's a portrait of Jon Anderson's rearside anyway. But if it is I would say that those buns of steel vids paid off! :P ;)

Happy "International Let's Go to Work Naked Day" everyone!

What It first made me think of (back in the 80s), I now recall, is Brave New World. It's like the savage meets this modern world of progress. But in that novel the savage was the one less comfortable getting nude (and frisky) and he would quote Shakespeare ("O brave new world, that has such people in’t”). It's the naked man witnessing modernity, but to me he looks as artificial as the buildings.

Edited by Logan - January 09 2025 at 12:59

Logan wrote: Cristi wrote: ^ I've never understood what's going on in that cover...  ^ Overthinking or underthinking this, probably both... If it was prehistoric man, or ancestors of man, looking at modern skyscrapers, I would get that in a sort of 2001: A Space Odyssey bone turns into space station way. It's providing contrast. It might be saying something about man is his natural state versus man outside of nature.   Artificiality. Innocence vs. artifice. The lines say something of perspective and geometrical form. A certain symmetry. I do think it;s trying to say something about the human condition and how we might seem to incongruously fit into this man-made world. man is small and naked in this built up world. The figure himself looks artificial due to the musculature -- it's an idealised form. I notice Rush kind of did the same buff naked man thing instead of using gangly Geddy Lee as the model. In Guru Guru's Hinten I think they used an actual photo of a band member's bottom (the drummer). I don't think that's a portrait of Jon Anderson's rearside anyway. But if it is I would say that those buns of steel vids paid off! :P ;) Happy "International Let's Go to Work Naked Day" everyone! What It first made me think of (back in the 80s), I now recall, is Brave New World. It's like the savage meets this modern world of progress. But in that novel the savage was the one less comfortable getting nude (and frisky) and he would quote Shakespeare ("O brave new world, that has such people in’t”). It's the naked man witnessing modernity, but to me he looks as artificial as the buildings.

I love the conspiracy theory that it was Patrick Moraz on the cover 

Logan wrote: Cristi wrote: ^ I've never understood what's going on in that cover...  ^ Overthinking or underthinking this, probably both... If it was prehistoric man, or ancestors of man, looking at modern skyscrapers, I would get that in a sort of 2001: A Space Odyssey bone turns into space station way. It's providing contrast. It might be saying something about man is his natural state versus man outside of nature.   Artificiality. Innocence vs. artifice. The lines say something of perspective and geometrical form. A certain symmetry. I do think it;s trying to say something about the human condition and how we might seem to incongruously fit into this man-made world. man is small and naked in this built up world. The figure himself looks artificial due to the musculature -- it's an idealised form. I notice Rush kind of did the same buff naked man thing instead of using gangly Geddy Lee as the model. In Guru Guru's Hinten I think they used an actual photo of a band member's bottom (the drummer). I don't think that's a portrait of Jon Anderson's rearside anyway. But if it is I would say that those buns of steel vids paid off! :P ;) Happy "International Let's Go to Work Naked Day" everyone! What It first made me think of (back in the 80s), I now recall, is Brave New World. It's like the savage meets this modern world of progress. But in that novel the savage was the one less comfortable getting nude (and frisky) and he would quote Shakespeare ("O brave new world, that has such people in’t”). It's the naked man witnessing modernity, but to me he looks as artificial as the buildings.

Constructing on that perspective, to which I agree, I'd say that the key point to be explained in this cover is nudity itself. That seems to follow the lead of Vitruvio. This is not A man, but MAN as archetype, stripped of individual traits, like clothes:



But in GFTO, man doesn't show face or genitals, nor extends arms or legs up to fill the perfect pythagorean figures illustrating Protagoras dictum "Man is the measure of all things". More likely, man just stands anonymous and constrained by asymmetrical lines largely exceeding in size, not measuring, but rather being measured by things. Those changes are perhaps more important than the initial resemblance, so Huxley's novel comes rapidly to mind.
Too much going on, that makes it hard to grasp, and such an interesting symbol.

Edited by Heart of the Matter - January 10 2025 at 06:44