Is Rush prog

Atavachron wrote: ^ Thems is fightin' words, and complete nonsense.   It's not a stroke of genius, it's an apt and straightforward term to describe exactly what Rush is.   What's really odd is that the existence of the phrase Heavy Prog bothers you so much.   Did someone give you a Rush CD in your stocking you didn't want?   Or maybe Alex Lifeson insulted your second cousin at an airport years ago.   How did that stick up your ass get there?

The artificial genre heading "Heavy Prog" actually dilutes the essence of what made Rush iconic. The term suggests an amalgamation that may not accurately reflect their musical ethos. It's as if someone decided to mix green tea with a pint of beer—an affront to both beverages!

There's a difference between an artificial and an organic name for a genre. "Heavy Prog" is a typical artificial genre name created for the needs of this site in order to include hard rock bands like Rush and Uriah Heep in its database. It was apparently created by an individual or a few people who came up with it in favour of the classification system of this site; it wasn't arising from the 70s progressive or heavy music milieu. Unlike an organic name for a genre, such as progressive rock or hard rock, "heavy prog" does not carry any cultural weight outside of this site's needs.

I think your argumentation is getting dangerously close to a fallacy. Genre labels, even back in the day, were (and still are) relative and subjective.

The 'cultural needs' you've mentioned actually did vary significantly from region to region. For example, in 70s Poland and Czechoslovakia, rock music was frowned upon by the government and thus it couldn't be widely advertised, so the "prog" bands from that area at the time, were marketing themselves as more of "jazz" groups rather than "rock" groups.

No comment......jeez.

Edited by Catcher10 - December 26 2024 at 13:01

Some of the albums? Yes.

Now. Here's the question. Is "Heavy Prog" more artificial of a genre label than "Yacht Rock"? 🤔

Even iconic groups have had albums that were far from progressive rock due to some commercial mutation or musical evolution, or for whatever reason. There are ELP's "Love Beach", Yes's "90125", almost all of Genesis' final stage, Steve Hackett's "Cured", etc, etc... Surely some Rush albums were also a bit distant from the progressive concept (Presto, Roll the Bones, Test for Echo among others), but due to the quantity and quality of albums and songs they have delivered ("By-Tor and Snow Dog", the suites "The Fountain of Lamneth", "2112" and "Cygnus X-1 Book II Hemispheres", Xanadu", "Natural Science", "The Camera Eye", and a list of several etceteras more) it seems to me that the Canadians are part of the great cosmos that is progressive rock and they do it honor.

Hector Enrique wrote: Even iconic groups have had albums that were far from progressive rock due to some commercial mutation or musical evolution, or for whatever reason. There are ELP's "Love Beach", Yes's "90125", almost all of Genesis' final stage, Steve Hackett's "Cured", etc, etc... Surely some Rush albums were also a bit distant from the progressive concept (Presto, Roll the Bones, Test for Echo among others), but due to the quantity and quality of albums and songs they have delivered ("By-Tor and Snow Dog", the suites "The Fountain of Lamneth", "2112" and "Cygnus X-1 Book II Hemispheres", Xanadu", "Natural Science", "The Camera Eye", and a list of several etceteras more) it seems to me that the Canadians are part of the great cosmos that is progressive rock and they do it honor.

Hrychu wrote: ... in 70s Poland and Czechoslovakia, rock music was frowned upon by the government and thus it couldn't be widely advertised, so the "prog" bands from that area at the time, were marketing themselves as more of "jazz" groups rather than "rock" groups.

Edited by David_D - 21 hours 51 minutes ago at 11:55

^That Owl isn't very wise, Paul.

I just finished Geddy Lee's book and he referred to their music as prog rock several times like it was a given.