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Topic: Is Rush prog
Posted By: jeeglefun
Subject: Is Rush prog
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 18:23
Is Rush progressive 



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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 18:31
Yes

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 18:47
In terms of their whole catalogue a lot isn't. However they were certainly very influential in helping to create progressive metal and heavier prog styles with the albums 2112, A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres. They then moved towards an artier 'synth pop' style in the 80's before eventually returning to a harder rock style in the 90's partly as a result of the rise of 'grunge' in North America I suspect


Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 20:38
They are not always "straight up" Rock . I've read comments where people attempt to make the band look small in comparison to the big 5 or 6 . I've heard musicians say..."It's easy to play " Maybe it's not overly difficult to learn, but try playing 2112 , tracks from Hemispheres...Live 5 nights a week . Yeah...let's see what happens then?

People have said their music is not difficult to play...however try putting yourself to the test by playing their music every week and see if you don't begin making mistakes? The difficulty in performing Rush every week is being consistent every night in getting the breaks clean and the dynamics perfect. Even after you have their pieces memorized you are bound for mistakes on stage. It's not like playing regular Rock on stage and close your eyes and not have to pay attention and so Rush has to be identified as being progressive right?


Posted By: hrotod
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 23:02
In contemporary discourse, it is predominantly acknowledged that Rush epitomizes the genre of heavy prog. However, in an era when the term "prog" had yet to be coined, Rush was not perceived as a purveyor of progressive rock but rather as an extremely impressive hard rock band.










Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 00:11
Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 00:43
According to the documentary series "Metal Evolution" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Evolution" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Evolution ), Episode 11 - "Progressive Metal", Rush were pretty much at the start of Progressive Metal (which is a much broader subgenre in the documentary series than in Prog Archives).
 



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 00:43
There's a huge thread about this still active (and i bet this was discussed to death in the past)
https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126250&PID=5889315" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126250&PID=5889315
I wonder how much off-topic-ness is in that thread though. LOL



Posted By: hrotod
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 01:04
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 01:10
Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.


Posted By: hrotod
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 01:27
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.
Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 02:01
^ Either you get it or not. You already bore me.


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 02:22
Originally posted by jeeglefun jeeglefun wrote:

Is Rush progressive 

Personally, I'd say they were progressive between Fly By Night and Permanent Waves (you might stretch this to Moving Pictures). Others may have a different view, which I'd respect.


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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 02:24
Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.
Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.

hmm... I think we might have another Pedro on our hands... Ermm


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 02:35
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.
Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.

hmm... I think we might have another Pedro on our hands... Ermm

or rather a Svetty clone. Ermm


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 03:28
Is this even in question? Note that the TO didn't bother to set a question mark, let alone any other relevant input.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 03:33
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Is this even in question? Note that the TO didn't bother to set a question mark, let alone any other relevant input.
Thumbs Up


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 04:18
Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.
 
Interesting idea using a Genesis as a unit of measure for proginess. For example, Pawn Hearts might have a proginess of 1.5 Genesises, whereas Moving Pictures might have a proginess of only 0.9 Genesises. Tongue
 



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Posted By: hrotod
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 04:49
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.
Moving Pictures might have a proginess of only 0.9 Genesises. Tongue
 

Perhaps in contemporary discourse and in hindsight. It is imperative, however, to recall that in a bygone era, the only unit of measurement for Rush could have been a band like Blue Öyster Cult or Rainbow, and that in terms of heaviness, not progressiveness. Because in the 1970s, at the time when progressive rock was a current genre as well as hard rock, Rush and the previously named hard rock titans were viewed as hard rock bands rather than progressive rock bands..



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