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Is Rush progressive 
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In terms of their whole catalogue a lot isn't. However they were certainly very influential in helping to create progressive metal and heavier prog styles with the albums 2112, A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres. They then moved towards an artier 'synth pop' style in the 80's before eventually returning to a harder rock style in the 90's partly as a result of the rise of 'grunge' in North America I suspect
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They are not always "straight up" Rock . I've read comments where people attempt to make the band look small in comparison to the big 5 or 6 . I've heard musicians say..."It's easy to play " Maybe it's not overly difficult to learn, but try playing 2112 , tracks from Hemispheres...Live 5 nights a week . Yeah...let's see what happens then?

People have said their music is not difficult to play...however try putting yourself to the test by playing their music every week and see if you don't begin making mistakes? The difficulty in performing Rush every week is being consistent every night in getting the breaks clean and the dynamics perfect. Even after you have their pieces memorized you are bound for mistakes on stage. It's not like playing regular Rock on stage and close your eyes and not have to pay attention and so Rush has to be identified as being progressive right?
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In contemporary discourse, it is predominantly acknowledged that Rush epitomizes the genre of heavy prog. However, in an era when the term "prog" had yet to be coined, Rush was not perceived as a purveyor of progressive rock but rather as an extremely impressive hard rock band.








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Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
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According to the documentary series "Metal Evolution" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Evolution), Episode 11 - "Progressive Metal", Rush were pretty much at the start of Progressive Metal (which is a much broader subgenre in the documentary series than in Prog Archives).
 

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There's a huge thread about this still active (and i bet this was discussed to death in the past)
I wonder how much off-topic-ness is in that thread though. LOL



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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
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Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.
Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.
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^ Either you get it or not. You already bore me.
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Originally posted by jeeglefun jeeglefun wrote:

Is Rush progressive 

Personally, I'd say they were progressive between Fly By Night and Permanent Waves (you might stretch this to Moving Pictures). Others may have a different view, which I'd respect.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 2 hours 37 minutes ago at 02:24
Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.
Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.

hmm... I think we might have another Pedro on our hands... Ermm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 2 hours 26 minutes ago at 02:35
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Sure they are. Rush have probably recorded more Progressive Rock albums/material in total than Genesis.
Isn't it ridiculous to compare the progressiveness of such two legendary bands in that sense? Rush and Genesis were both proggy in their own unique ways, in different times and in different circumstances (Genesis was at their most progressive era in the early 70s as part of the genuine progressive rock wave).
I didn't compare their progressiveness, just the quantity of relevant material.
Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.

hmm... I think we might have another Pedro on our hands... Ermm

or rather a Svetty clone. Ermm
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Is this even in question? Note that the TO didn't bother to set a question mark, let alone any other relevant input.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Is this even in question? Note that the TO didn't bother to set a question mark, let alone any other relevant input.
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Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.
 
Interesting idea using a Genesis as a unit of measure for proginess. For example, Pawn Hearts might have a proginess of 1.5 Genesises, whereas Moving Pictures might have a proginess of only 0.9 Genesises. Tongue
 

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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by hrotod hrotod wrote:

Genesis was a magnificent symphonic prog band and does not serve as a measuring unit for determining a level of progressiveness of a musical ensemble within the genre of prog.
Moving Pictures might have a proginess of only 0.9 Genesises. Tongue
 

Perhaps in contemporary discourse and in hindsight. It is imperative, however, to recall that in a bygone era, the only unit of measurement for Rush could have been a band like Blue Öyster Cult or Rainbow, and that in terms of heaviness, not progressiveness. Because in the 1970s, at the time when progressive rock was a current genre as well as hard rock, Rush and the previously named hard rock titans were viewed as hard rock bands rather than progressive rock bands..
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