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felona 
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 Posted: June 25 2005 at 04:19 |
Tony the Tiger & Feeeelona agree that Misunderstanding is grrrrrr-eat ...
puurrrrrrr-miaow
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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dalt99
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 04:02 |
Wow.
Well, I have never bought Duke and have yet to hear it. I was surely not going to buy it after Kirklott's rantings but with all the good reviews (a few anyway) I just may have to buy it now!
Uh...thanks...Kirklott...? 
 
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Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Intruder
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 03:55 |
Got my start on the poppy side of Genesis....fell in love with Abacab/Duke/Three Sides.. as an impressionable early teen. Fell out of love with the poppier side of Genesis as my musical tastes grew, but, even if I haven't pulled any post-Wind Genesis off of the shelf for a loooong while, I still "like" the albums and respect their decision to branch out and away from their signature classic era sound.
And, yeah, I LIKE Misunderstanding....I also like the LP cover...... Blasphemy!
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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felona
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 03:40 |
hey, kirklott, if we can cordially agree to disagree about italian vocals & prog in that other thread ... then maybe we can shake hands on this one. eh? That's what good friends do ... what d'you say old chap?  I like Duke and you don't like dark swedish stuff or italian vox ... so lets call it quits ....
btw I couldn't help noticing your penchant for ... skulls ... . Actually I rather enjoyed the one with the rabbit. Is it yours? ... the rabbit, I mean .. not the ... oh, never mind .
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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richardh
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 02:49 |
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Most of Duke I like.Man Of Our Times is seriously good as is Behind The Lines,Duchess,Dukes Travels and Duke's End.Lots of good stuff ,enough to be a 3-4 star prog album.Interestingly the concept of the album fits in with Genesis changing attitudes to music.They had started to go a bit more 'commercial' and the mood of the record indicates the future direction.If you listen to the lyrics its really about the end of Genesis as a prog band.They more or less divorced themselves from prog on the albums that followed.But Duke is still decent.
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nousommedusolei
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 01:44 |
Basically, everything after "Wind and Wuthering" (which had its good parts and its cheesy, intolerable parts) made me want to rip my hair out. When Hackett left, the fecal matter hit the fan.
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I don't believe in demons
I don't believe in devils
I only believe in you
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 00:15 |
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Its not that bad...not that good, but not that bad.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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kirklott
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 23:25 |
 NetsNJFan wrote:
The only bad songs are Please Don't Ask and Misunderstanding
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Please Don't Ask - ARGGHHH! I forgot about that song!!! That's even worse than any Trevor Rabin love song! Must...remain calm...take medication...deep breaths...think happy thoughts...Close to the Edge...Brain Salad Surgery...Seconds Out....ah, I'm feeling better...
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"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 23:19 |
Duke! I love Duke! My favorite album of the 1980's.
It's as good as pop-prog gets.
The only bad songs are Please Don't Ask and Misunderstanding
The Duke Suite is fantastic, start to finish.
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russellk
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:59 |
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Heh -- good to see people not talking themselves too seriously.
I like Duke, but it's not up to snuff compared with Genesis' earlier
material. Beats the heck out of anything that followed, however.
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kirklott
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:39 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Just for you Kirklott:
I'm going to hide away now...
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MINE EYES - ARRGGHH!
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"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:35 |
Just for you Kirklott:
I'm going to hide away now...
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kirklott
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:34 |
OK, Man of Our Times is pretty good (in addition to the end suite)
But I will yield no further concessions.
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"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin
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felona
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:24 |
well, takes a deep breath ... I quite like Duke
(runs to take cover)
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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The Doctor
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:20 |
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I like the beginning and ending suites too. Actually though I love the song Heathaze. Always struck a chord for me.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:11 |
The Letter M wrote:
"Well good news! It's a suppository!" - The Professor, Futurama.
-Marc. |
I'm not kidding, I was just about to use that quote.
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The Letter M
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:08 |
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"Well good news! It's a suppository!" - The Professor, Futurama.
:D
Anyways, I happen to like Duke - well, more over, the bookending suites - Behind The Lines/Duchess/Guide Vocal and the Duke songs at the end. Better material on Duke than Abacab, so by comparison, IMO, it's a good album. Where as Duke has about 5-6 really good tracks, Abacab has about 3, and 2 more which were B-Side instrumentals. Not bad albums, IMO, just not what a lot of people wanted after Hackett left.
-Marc.
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I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on.
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kirklott
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 21:57 |
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Yeah, I need a pill that big to recover from Duke.
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"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 21:56 |
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Drink plenty of water afterwards.
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Soulman
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 21:52 |
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