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Poll Question: Which band do you like best?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
12 [14.81%]
15 [18.52%]
16 [19.75%]
8 [9.88%]
18 [22.22%]
1 [1.23%]
1 [1.23%]
1 [1.23%]
9 [11.11%]
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2024 at 16:37
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.

Well, aren't there enough polls that look like this? 

In the last three years, I've made quite a few comments about having favourite bands, and this was just one more.

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King Crimson > Pink Floyd. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2024 at 19:07
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.

Well, aren't there enough polls that look like this? 

In the last three years, I've made quite a few comments about having favourite bands, and this was just one more.


Yes, but these are my favorite bands and not yours. The title clearly says they are my favorite bands. Also, no one is forcing you to comment. If you don't like this poll or my choices then you can just ignore it rather than be negative. 


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 08 2024 at 19:48
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Rush

1. ELP
2. IQ
3. Rush
4. Big Big Train
5. Eloy

6. Yes
7. Genesis
8. Porcupine Tree
9. Pink Floyd
10.Glass Hammer

11.Magenta
12.Kayak
13.Van Der Graaf Generator
14.Camel
15.King Crimson


Your taste is often good Richard, so I may have to try listening to the 3 bands on your list that I’ve never heard - Eloy, Glass Hammer and Kayak….

thank you Smile
Eloy - best go for the seventies trio of Dawn, Ocean and Silent Cries And Mighty Echoes
Glass Hammer - Lex Rex, Chronomotree and Shadowlands
Kayak - First 3 albums up to Royal Bed Bouncer
Those are the best 'starter' albums for those bands I think.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2024 at 02:39
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Which do you prefer?

Moving Pictures
Close to The Edge
Selling England by the Pound
Wish You Were Here
In The Court of the Crimson King

I like much SEbtP, WYWH and ItCotCK, a bit less CttE but have much respect for it, and I don't like MP.


Edited by David_D - November 09 2024 at 05:21
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.

Well, aren't there enough polls that look like this? 

In the last three years, I've made quite a few comments about having favourite bands, and this was just one more.

Yes, but these are my favorite bands and not yours. The title clearly says they are my favorite bands. Also, no one is forcing you to comment. If you don't like this poll or my choices then you can just ignore it rather than be negative. 

I was not being negative, just telling about how I think and feel about the question of having favourite bands - and as said, it was a general comment.

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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

 

Your taste is often good Richard, so I may have to try listening to the 3 bands on your list that I’ve never heard - Eloy, Glass Hammer and Kayak….

you've never heard any Eloy??!! Wow, you are in for SUCH a treat! I'd always recommend the Colours - Planets - Time To Turn trio to start... most easily accessible, with the traditional sound. You can get lost in Eloy's music for weeks at a time. If you like it, you might also like to try Grobschnitt... start with Jumbo.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

(although I haven't heard TAGM yet)
 
I don't usually include The Aerosol Grey Machine when discussing the early VdGG sound because they hadn't really found their sound in that album (even though there were hints of it). I do like The Aerosol Grey Machine and even recommended it to Psychedelic Paul for its more late '60s psychedelic style compared to subsequent albums.
 
 
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

The early stuff sounds more chaotic and disjointed which is maybe a good thing for many people. While I like the craziness factor to some degree I feel starting with Godbluff their music became much more focused and cohesive.
 
There is certainly chaos in early VdGG, and I do love that. But there are also those eerie atmospheric soundscapes that I also love such as the Presence of the Night section of A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers or the instrumental section of W. But they also combined the chaos with the eerie atmospheric soundscape in Pioneers Over C.
 
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My alternative five favourite British prog bands of all time

1. Mostly Autumn
2. Renaissance
3. Magenta
4. The Enid
5. Edison's Children

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My alternative five favourite British prog bands of all time

1. Mostly Autumn
2. Renaissance
3. Magenta
4. The Enid
5. Edison's Children



I know most of these bands. If you don't mind what are your three favorites by each? I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?
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My alternative list:

1) Renaissance
2) Santana
3) Caravan
4) Camel
5) Pentangle

Edited by Floydoid - November 09 2024 at 10:30
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My alternative five favourite British prog bands of all time

1. Mostly Autumn
2. Renaissance
3. Magenta
4. The Enid
5. Edison's Children



I know most of these bands. If you don't mind what are your three favorites by each? I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?
Edison's Children have only recorded four albums and I like them all equally, so I'd recommend checking out all of them. Thumbs Up

 5 stars 2011: Edison's Children - In the Last Waking Moments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEb_s6dSYhR2sUilYyHWZW6y
 5 stars 2013: Edison's Children - The Final Breath Before November - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbKHW9TOC4-Zapi4reVICNF
 5 stars 2015: Edison's Children - Somewhere Between Here & There - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaqe7_4Rwsx_4PT1GclZHts
 5 stars 2019: Edison's Children - The Disturbance Fields - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYHEf24ubCszxUWoKp0qn5e
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?

Listening to their albums chronologically would work fine. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?

Listening to their albums chronologically would work fine. Smile
That always works best for me. Thumbs Up
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If I make a hard effort, I might say that ELP, Genesis and Pink Floyd have made most albums which I appreciate much, and anyway, I voted for Genesis.
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ELP don't quite make my top five. In all honesty I probably like Camel better. Those first four studio ELP albums are great but I'm not sure they did anything that even comes close.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

ELP don't quite make my top five. In all honesty I probably like Camel better. Those first four studio ELP albums are great but I'm not sure they did anything that even comes close.

Camel made better rounded albums but were a tad 'after the fact' and not as innovative or influential (arguably). I like them though and bought the box set Airbourne which is excellent.
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Among the options, I voted Yes.

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Camel made better rounded albums but were a tad 'after the fact' and not as innovative or influential (arguably).
The influence of Camel on neo-prog bands is undeniable. Everybody knows that Marillion, IQ, and Pendragon were heavily influenced by mid-to-late 70s Genesis. However, neo-prog movement was nothing less influenced by the best records of Camel. Marillion, for instance, was nearly as likely to mirror Camel's taste for atmospheric soundscapes punctuated with emotional lyricism on early efforts. Likewise, IQs "The Wake" channels a Camel-like emotional intensity at their most potent. 
Moreover, Camel's guitarist Andy Latimer has been especially important for Pendragon's Nick Barrett; listen to Barrett's fluid guitar, and you'll hear Latimer creeping in there. Nick Barrett used these same tactics—beautiful leads and emotive phrasing—to get listeners to feel something.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by AlanB AlanB wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by AlanB AlanB wrote:

I picked "other" which for me would be Transatlantic. I never got into King Crimson or Rush, I only recently started to appreciate some of Genesis (mainly SEBTP and Supper's Ready), and there are only a few of Yes and Pink Floyd's catalogue that I like.

You sound like you are probably young (or relatively young). 

Young at heart (I'm actually 68 LOL )

So if you like so little of the five bands I chose then what do you mostly listen to (I'm just curious)? Besides Transatlantic that is (a band who wouldn't exist if it weren't for Yes, KC and Genesis).

To answer your question - pretty much anything that Neal Morse has been involved with, also the first 6 camel albums, after that I'd go by albums rather than artists. So from your list, I'd say I like Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, The Yes Album, Close To The Edge, Going For The One, and Selling England By The Pound. Also bits of Tales From Topographic Oceans and some of The Wall, though I find both of those albums have too much filler. Sometimes I surprise myself, for instance I'm not into metal but I love Dream Theater's Scenes From A Memory. I'm happy to give anything a listen, but I can't get into some things, ITCOTCK for instance did nothing for me. Neither does Relayer though many people consider it a masterpiece.


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

ELP don't quite make my top five. In all honesty I probably like Camel better. Those first four studio ELP albums are great but I'm not sure they did anything that even comes close.

Camel made better rounded albums but were a tad 'after the fact' and not as innovative or influential (arguably). I like them though and bought the box set Airbourne which is excellent.

I agree much with richardh that ELP was a lot more innovative and influential than Camel, even I find The Snow Goose to be not so little of a masterpiece, and I've also loved it much since its release.


Edited by David_D - November 10 2024 at 08:08
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