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Topic: My five favorite prog bands of all timePosted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: My five favorite prog bands of all time
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 13:21
Please vote for the one you want. Hopefully voting for one of these bands won't have disastrous consequences.
I also like ELP, Kansas, Jethro Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, VDGG, Marillion and Porcupine Tree but those make my top 12 and not top five.
Replies: Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 14:56
Yes is my favorite. Genesis and Rush would also be in my top 5.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 14:59
I can't choose and i don't like them all equally.
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 14:59
My choice is Yes based on their entire catalog, though their are a few later albums that don't quite measure up. For being consistently interesting with true prog adventure, I'd give the title to King Crimson.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 15:02
Only King Crimson are in my top 5.
Then Pink Floyd, possibly in my Top 10.
Genesis and Yes possibly in my Top 30.
Rush arent in my Top 50.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 15:03
Rush is in my top five.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 15:05
It's between King Crimson and Pink Floyd for me as my clear favourites from the list. King Crimson is the one that gets more attention from me these days and gets my vote.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 15:33
Top 5
1. Yes
2. Genesis
3. Pink Floyd
4. Rush
5. King Crimson
Top 13
01. Yes
02. Camel
03. Genesis
04. Pink Floyd
05. Jethro Tull
06. Marillion
07. Porcupine Tree
08. Kansas
09. ELP
10. Rush
11. Van der Graaf Generator
12. King Crimson
13. Gentle Giant
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 15:40
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Please vote for the one you want. Hopefully voting for one of these bands won't have disastrous consequences.
I also like ELP, Kansas, Jethro Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, VDGG, Marillion and Porcupine Tree but those make my top 12 and not top five.
You like a lot of dinosaur prog.
Any modern prog hit the top 13?
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 16:54
Should have picked other as none of them are my favorite band but I picked King Crimson as they are top 5 followed by Pink Floyd who are top 10. Genesis and Yes would be next but they are more like top 50.
Other top 5 bands
Henry Cow Univers Zero Cardiacs VDGG
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 03:32
Hard to choose, but from this group I tend to listen to Genesis more than the others, thus voted accordingly. I have a very low albedo and a featureless reddish spectrum.
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 03:45
Yes
Pink Floyd
Genesis
King Crimson
Rush
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 03:49
Voted for Floyd, but only very narrowly over Genesis.
I also voted that none are in my top 5, although I’m not sure either are definitely in my top 10.
Rush might be top 20. Yes top 50 maybe? King Crimson I don’t know enough of to say….
My top 5 are IQ, It Bites, Dream Theater, Ayreon and Frost*😎
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 03:58
King Crimson might be in my Prog Rock top five, but that would be a crowded top five if I ever tried to make one. Pink Floyd is somwhere up there as well. I love a lot of Genesis too, but I don't love a lot of Genesis as well.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 04:41
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
You don't consider Porcupine Tree to be modern prog? Compared to the others they are.
Their first album was released over 32 years ago. I wouldn't consider that modern prog. I was just being silly. Listen to what you like.
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 04:50
Genesis
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 05:19
Genesis - my "go to" album if stuck on an island is SEBTP.
Followed closely by RRUUSSH, Yes, the Floyds and KC.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 05:58
From this list, King Crimson.
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 06:35
From that list only Pink Floyd and Yes are in my top 5 prog bands of all time.
The other three in my top 5 would be Curved Air, Focus, and ELP.
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Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 07:46
From the list, Yes & Genesis. Added to my personal top 5...ELP, Gentle Giant, and Triumvirat.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 08:17
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
You don't consider Porcupine Tree to be modern prog? Compared to the others they are.
Their first album was released over 32 years ago. I wouldn't consider that modern prog. I was just being silly. Listen to what you like.
I do but I listen to a whole lot more than just those five (or 13). It's just that very few modern (your definition of modern) would crack my top 100 (if modern means the past ten years or so if we go back a little further then a few more).
Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 12:35
I picked "other" which for me would be Transatlantic. I never got into King Crimson or Rush, I only recently started to appreciate some of Genesis (mainly SEBTP and Supper's Ready), and there are only a few of Yes and Pink Floyd's catalogue that I like.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 13:10
AlanB wrote:
I picked "other" which for me would be Transatlantic. I never got into King Crimson or Rush, I only recently started to appreciate some of Genesis (mainly SEBTP and Supper's Ready), and there are only a few of Yes and Pink Floyd's catalogue that I like.
You sound like you are probably young (or relatively young).
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 13:58
Floyd with Genesis as close second.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 14:15
I chose "Other" (because it was available). It is no secret that my favourite group by a considerable margin is Van der Graaf Generator.
Of the other choices (if "Other" were not available), I would have chosen Yes.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 14:18
I prophesy disaster wrote:
I chose "Other" (because it was available). It is no secret that my favourite group by a considerable margin is Van der Graaf Generator.
Of the other choices (if "Other" were not available), I would have chosen Yes.
I like VDGG a lot too but over the years they have fallen off my personal top 5 list. Maybe still top ten though.
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 14:28
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I prophesy disaster wrote:
I chose "Other" (because it was available). It is no secret that my favourite group by a considerable margin is Van der Graaf Generator.
Of the other choices (if "Other" were not available), I would have chosen Yes.
I like VDGG a lot too but over the years they have fallen off my personal top 5 list. Maybe still top ten though.
I'm listening to them more now than I did in the past. And when I'm not listening to them, I'm usually listening to something other than the five groups of this topic. Nevertheless, four of the five groups (not Rush) are foundational to me.
I should remark that VdGG became my favourite group pretty much from the beginning of my venture into prog, from when I started listening to Pawn Hearts.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 17:13
I prophesy disaster wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I prophesy disaster wrote:
I chose "Other" (because it was available). It is no secret that my favourite group by a considerable margin is Van der Graaf Generator.
Of the other choices (if "Other" were not available), I would have chosen Yes.
I like VDGG a lot too but over the years they have fallen off my personal top 5 list. Maybe still top ten though.
I'm listening to them more now than I did in the past. And when I'm not listening to them, I'm usually listening to something other than the five groups of this topic. Nevertheless, four of the five groups (not Rush) are foundational to me.
I should remark that VdGG became my favourite group pretty much from the beginning of my venture into prog, from when I started listening to Pawn Hearts.
Pawn Hearts is great but maybe my third favorite. My favorites are Godbluff then Still Life.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 19:52
Rush
1. ELP
2. IQ
3. Rush
4. Big Big Train
5. Eloy
6. Yes
7. Genesis
8. Porcupine Tree
9. Pink Floyd
10.Glass Hammer
11.Magenta
12.Kayak
13.Van Der Graaf Generator
14.Camel
15.King Crimson
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 07 2024 at 19:54
richardh wrote:
Rush
1. ELP
2. IQ
3. Rush
4. Big Big Train
5. Eloy
6. Yes
7. Genesis
8. Porcupine Tree
9. Pink Floyd
10.Glass Hammer
11.Magenta
12.Kayak
13.Van Der Graaf Generator
14.Camel
15.King Crimson
I really like all those bands but not in that order.
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 05:43
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Pawn Hearts is great but maybe my third favorite. My favorites are Godbluff then Still Life.
For me, Pawn Hearts is a big step above all other albums, including other VdGG albums. Although currently I definitely prefer H to He, Who Am the Only One over Godbluff, even as far back as '79 when I purchased both albums together, retrospectively my behaviour would indicate a definite preference towards H to He, Who Am the Only One. When I got Still Life sometime later, I could not quite get into this album like I did the other albums I had at the time. However, after that I did immediately fall in love with The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other.
I definitely prefer the early period sounds of the pre-Godbluff albums over the more streamlined sound of the first three post-Pawn Hearts albums. There were definitely masterpieces in those three post-Pawn Hearts albums, but gone were the truly fascinating sound textures that I adored from the pre-Godbluff albums and especially Pawn Hearts.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 07:30
richardh wrote:
Rush
1. ELP
2. IQ
3. Rush
4. Big Big Train
5. Eloy
6. Yes
7. Genesis
8. Porcupine Tree
9. Pink Floyd
10.Glass Hammer
11.Magenta
12.Kayak
13.Van Der Graaf Generator
14.Camel
15.King Crimson
Your taste is often good Richard, so I may have to try listening to the 3 bands on your list that I’ve never heard - Eloy, Glass Hammer and Kayak….
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 09:03
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
AlanB wrote:
I picked "other" which for me would be Transatlantic. I never got into King Crimson or Rush, I only recently started to appreciate some of Genesis (mainly SEBTP and Supper's Ready), and there are only a few of Yes and Pink Floyd's catalogue that I like.
You sound like you are probably young (or relatively young).
Young at heart (I'm actually 68 )
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 11:34
AlanB wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
AlanB wrote:
I picked "other" which for me would be Transatlantic. I never got into King Crimson or Rush, I only recently started to appreciate some of Genesis (mainly SEBTP and Supper's Ready), and there are only a few of Yes and Pink Floyd's catalogue that I like.
You sound like you are probably young (or relatively young).
Young at heart (I'm actually 68 )
So if you like so little of the five bands I chose then what do you mostly listen to (I'm just curious)? Besides Transatlantic that is (a band who wouldn't exist if it weren't for Yes, KC and Genesis).
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 12:32
I prophesy disaster wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Pawn Hearts is great but maybe my third favorite. My favorites are Godbluff then Still Life.
For me, Pawn Hearts is a big step above all other albums, including other VdGG albums. Although currently I definitely prefer H to He, Who Am the Only One over Godbluff, even as far back as '79 when I purchased both albums together, retrospectively my behaviour would indicate a definite preference towards H to He, Who Am the Only One. When I got Still Life sometime later, I could not quite get into this album like I did the other albums I had at the time. However, after that I did immediately fall in love with The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other.
I definitely prefer the early period sounds of the pre-Godbluff albums over the more streamlined sound of the first three post-Pawn Hearts albums. There were definitely masterpieces in those three post-Pawn Hearts albums, but gone were the truly fascinating sound textures that I adored from the pre-Godbluff albums and especially Pawn Hearts.
I like the early VDGG albums (although I haven't heard TAGM yet) but not as much as the mid 70s albums. I suppose it's all about personal preference. The early stuff sounds more chaotic and disjointed which is maybe a good thing for many people. While I like the craziness factor to some degree I feel starting with Godbluff their music became much more focused and cohesive. That's just my opinion though.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 12:36
When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 13:42
David_D wrote:
When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.
Well, aren't there enough polls that look like this?
Which do you prefer?
Moving Pictures
Close to The Edge
Selling England by the Pound
Wish You Were Here
In The Court of the Crimson King
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 14:36
In this moment,
my top 5 may be:
1) Van Der Graaf
2) King Crimson
3) Area
4) Tim Buckley
5) Henry Cow
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 16:37
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
David_D wrote:
When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.
Well, aren't there enough polls that look like this?
In the last three years, I've made quite a few comments about having favourite bands, and this was just one more.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 16:52
King Crimson > Pink Floyd.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 19:07
David_D wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
David_D wrote:
When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.
Well, aren't there enough polls that look like this?
In the last three years, I've made quite a few comments about having favourite bands, and this was just one more.
Yes, but these are my favorite bands and not yours. The title clearly says they are my favorite bands. Also, no one is forcing you to comment. If you don't like this poll or my choices then you can just ignore it rather than be negative.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 23:26
essexboyinwales wrote:
richardh wrote:
Rush
1. ELP
2. IQ
3. Rush
4. Big Big Train
5. Eloy
6. Yes
7. Genesis
8. Porcupine Tree
9. Pink Floyd
10.Glass Hammer
11.Magenta
12.Kayak
13.Van Der Graaf Generator
14.Camel
15.King Crimson
Your taste is often good Richard, so I may have to try listening to the 3 bands on your list that I’ve never heard - Eloy, Glass Hammer and Kayak….
thank you
Eloy - best go for the seventies trio of Dawn, Ocean and Silent Cries And Mighty Echoes
Glass Hammer - Lex Rex, Chronomotree and Shadowlands
Kayak - First 3 albums up to Royal Bed Bouncer
Those are the best 'starter' albums for those bands I think.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 02:39
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Which do you prefer?
Moving Pictures
Close to The Edge
Selling England by the Pound
Wish You Were Here
In The Court of the Crimson King
I like much SEbtP, WYWH and ItCotCK, a bit less CttE but have much respect for it, and I don't like MP.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 02:45
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
David_D wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
David_D wrote:
When talking about favourite bands, I thinki that it's better to focus on music than persons, and music means best albums, as concerts are again much about persons. When then talking about comparing albums, it's often difficult to me, as they're different and I enjoy them in different ways. I also think that it's better just to enjoy albums instead of to think about which ones I like best.
Well, aren't there enough polls that look like this?
In the last three years, I've made quite a few comments about having favourite bands, and this was just one more.
Yes, but these are my favorite bands and not yours. The title clearly says they are my favorite bands. Also, no one is forcing you to comment. If you don't like this poll or my choices then you can just ignore it rather than be negative.
I was not being negative, just telling about how I think and feel about the question of having favourite bands - and as said, it was a general comment.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 03:06
essexboyinwales wrote:
Your taste is often good Richard, so I may have to try listening to the 3 bands on your list that I’ve never heard - Eloy, Glass Hammer and Kayak….
you've never heard any Eloy??!! Wow, you are in for SUCH a treat! I'd always recommend the Colours - Planets - Time To Turn trio to start... most easily accessible, with the traditional sound. You can get lost in Eloy's music for weeks at a time. If you like it, you might also like to try Grobschnitt... start with Jumbo.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 04:15
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
(although I haven't heard TAGM yet)
I don't usually include The Aerosol Grey Machine when discussing the early VdGG sound because they hadn't really found their sound in that album (even though there were hints of it). I do like The Aerosol Grey Machine and even recommended it to Psychedelic Paul for its more late '60s psychedelic style compared to subsequent albums.
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
The early stuff sounds more chaotic and disjointed which is maybe a good thing for many people. While I like the craziness factor to some degree I feel starting with Godbluff their music became much more focused and cohesive.
There is certainly chaos in early VdGG, and I do love that. But there are also those eerie atmospheric soundscapes that I also love such as the Presence of the Night section of A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers or the instrumental section of W. But they also combined the chaos with the eerie atmospheric soundscape in Pioneers Over C.
W:
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 04:34
My alternative five favourite British prog bands of all time
1. Mostly Autumn
2. Renaissance
3. Magenta
4. The Enid
5. Edison's Children
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 10:25
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
My alternative five favourite British prog bands of all time
1. Mostly Autumn
2. Renaissance
3. Magenta
4. The Enid
5. Edison's Children
I know most of these bands. If you don't mind what are your three favorites by each? I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 10:30
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 10:52
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
My alternative five favourite British prog bands of all time
1. Mostly Autumn
2. Renaissance
3. Magenta
4. The Enid
5. Edison's Children
I know most of these bands. If you don't mind what are your three favorites by each? I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?
Edison's Children have only recorded four albums and I like them all equally, so I'd recommend checking out all of them.
2011: Edison's Children - In the Last Waking Moments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEb_s6dSYhR2sUilYyHWZW6y" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEb_s6dSYhR2sUilYyHWZW6y
2013: Edison's Children - The Final Breath Before November - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbKHW9TOC4-Zapi4reVICNF" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbKHW9TOC4-Zapi4reVICNF
2015: Edison's Children - Somewhere Between Here & There - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaqe7_4Rwsx_4PT1GclZHts" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaqe7_4Rwsx_4PT1GclZHts
2019: Edison's Children - The Disturbance Fields - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYHEf24ubCszxUWoKp0qn5e" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYHEf24ubCszxUWoKp0qn5e
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 10:54
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?
Listening to their albums chronologically would work fine.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 10:57
Cristi wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I don't know Edison's Children at all so what is the best place to start with them?
Listening to their albums chronologically would work fine.
That always works best for me.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 15:10
If I make a hard effort, I might say that ELP, Genesis and Pink Floyd have made most albums which I appreciate much, and anyway, I voted for Genesis.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 16:47
ELP don't quite make my top five. In all honesty I probably like Camel better. Those first four studio ELP albums are great but I'm not sure they did anything that even comes close.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 22:31
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
ELP don't quite make my top five. In all honesty I probably like Camel better. Those first four studio ELP albums are great but I'm not sure they did anything that even comes close.
Camel made better rounded albums but were a tad 'after the fact' and not as innovative or influential (arguably). I like them though and bought the box set Airbourne which is excellent.
Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: November 10 2024 at 00:36
Among the options, I voted Yes.
richardh wrote:
Camel made better rounded albums but were a tad 'after the fact' and not as innovative or influential (arguably).
The
influence of Camel on neo-prog bands is undeniable. Everybody knows
that Marillion, IQ, and Pendragon were heavily influenced by mid-to-late
70s Genesis. However, neo-prog movement was nothing less influenced by
the best records of Camel. Marillion, for instance, was nearly as likely
to mirror Camel's taste for atmospheric soundscapes punctuated with
emotional lyricism on early efforts. Likewise, IQs "The Wake" channels a
Camel-like emotional intensity at their most potent.
Moreover,
Camel's guitarist Andy Latimer has been especially important for
Pendragon's Nick Barrett; listen to Barrett's fluid guitar, and you'll
hear Latimer creeping in there. Nick Barrett used these same
tactics—beautiful leads and emotive phrasing—to get listeners to feel
something.
Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: November 10 2024 at 00:46
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
AlanB wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
AlanB wrote:
I picked "other" which for me would be Transatlantic. I never got into King Crimson or Rush, I only recently started to appreciate some of Genesis (mainly SEBTP and Supper's Ready), and there are only a few of Yes and Pink Floyd's catalogue that I like.
You sound like you are probably young (or relatively young).
Young at heart (I'm actually 68 )
So if you like so little of the five bands I chose then what do you mostly listen to (I'm just curious)? Besides Transatlantic that is (a band who wouldn't exist if it weren't for Yes, KC and Genesis).
To answer your question - pretty much anything that Neal Morse has been involved with, also the first 6 camel albums, after that I'd go by albums rather than artists. So from your list, I'd say I like Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, The Yes Album, Close To The Edge, Going For The One, and Selling England By The Pound. Also bits of Tales From Topographic Oceans and some of The Wall, though I find both of those albums have too much filler. Sometimes I surprise myself, for instance I'm not into metal but I love Dream Theater's Scenes From A Memory. I'm happy to give anything a listen, but I can't get into some things, ITCOTCK for instance did nothing for me. Neither does Relayer though many people consider it a masterpiece.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2024 at 07:14
richardh wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
ELP don't quite make my top five. In all honesty I probably like Camel better. Those first four studio ELP albums are great but I'm not sure they did anything that even comes close.
Camel made better rounded albums but were a tad 'after the fact' and not as innovative or influential (arguably). I like them though and bought the box set Airbourne which is excellent.
I agree much with richardh that ELP was a lot more innovative and influential than Camel, even I find The Snow Goose to be not so little of a masterpiece, and I've also loved it much since its release.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 10 2024 at 07:27
I like all the bands listed in the Poll, but none are in my top 10....
My five favourite prog bands are:
Triumvirat
Giger Lenz Marron
Dzyan
Passport
Dedalus
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 10 2024 at 07:32
presdoug wrote:
I like all the bands listed in the Poll, but none are in my top 10....
My five favourite prog bands are:
Triumvirat
Giger Lenz Marron
Dzyan
Passport
Dedalus
The only band in the poll in my Top 10 are YES, who are currently at #5, behind Mostly Autumn, Renaissance, Magenta and The Enid, although that's not including "foreign" bands.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 10 2024 at 16:36
Starshiper wrote:
Among the options, I voted Yes.
richardh wrote:
Camel made better rounded albums but were a tad 'after the fact' and not as innovative or influential (arguably).
The
influence of Camel on neo-prog bands is undeniable. Everybody knows
that Marillion, IQ, and Pendragon were heavily influenced by mid-to-late
70s Genesis. However, neo-prog movement was nothing less influenced by
the best records of Camel. Marillion, for instance, was nearly as likely
to mirror Camel's taste for atmospheric soundscapes punctuated with
emotional lyricism on early efforts. Likewise, IQs "The Wake" channels a
Camel-like emotional intensity at their most potent.
Moreover,
Camel's guitarist Andy Latimer has been especially important for
Pendragon's Nick Barrett; listen to Barrett's fluid guitar, and you'll
hear Latimer creeping in there. Nick Barrett used these same
tactics—beautiful leads and emotive phrasing—to get listeners to feel
something.
I think the key part of my comment is 'not as'. Camel were a great end of classic era prog band so will have been influential for sure.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 09:50
Poor Rush only has 7 points. How is it possible for them to be so low?
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 10:29
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Poor Rush only has 7 points. How is it possible for them to be so low?
As we've said before Mike, 15-18 years ago, they'd have scored higher, but the Rush - 'Ryche - DT brigade aren't here in as large a number now...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 10:32
presdoug wrote:
I like all the bands listed in the Poll, but none are in my top 10....
I have been listening to a lot more than Triumvirat for longer than you've been around. I guess I listen to Bruckner's symphonies as much, or even more than Triumvirat.....
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 11:56
Doug, I was being ironic. :) No offense.
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 12:42
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Well, if I were to put my top five in order from 1-5 it would probably look like this:
1. Yes
2. Rush
3. Genesis
4. King Crimson
5. Pink Floyd
In truth, of these 5, I'd put KC last because I'm not keen on all their discography. I guess I put Genesis top out of nostalgia, but in truth these days, my top 5 bands from the classic era would be interchangeable from week to week:
Yes, Genesis, Floyd, Camel, Eloy (probably)
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 13:04
Hrychu wrote:
Doug, I was being ironic. :) No offense.
Ok, thanks, no worries....
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 16:06
Jared wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Poor Rush only has 7 points. How is it possible for them to be so low?
As we've said before Mike, 15-18 years ago, they'd have scored higher, but the Rush - 'Ryche - DT brigade aren't here in as large a number now...
And yet on a regular rock site or even a reddit prog forum Rush would have way more interest than Yes. Maybe the fans on here are a bit older and so now prefer Yes and the other bands? I hope no one feels as though they outgrew Rush.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 16:10
^Negatory... At 65, I prefer Rush more than your other picks and shall never outgrow them.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 16:16
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
^Negatory... At 65, I prefer Rush more than your other picks and shall never outgrow them.
That's good. Is that because you are more of a fan of heavy prog?
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 16:50
^No. Rush is the best trio ever! Has nothing to do with 'heavy prog".
Actually, jazz and fusion is my home.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 17:41
Well, they were really only heavy for the first third and the last third of their career.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 22:08
Re Some of the comments above, there seems to have been a backlash against Rush from the prog fraternity in recent times. They were another of those 'after the fact' bands that seem to gain a lot of praise for creating prog when they actually didn't. Also on youtube some have suggested that Neil Peart is well overrated as a drummer and maybe this plays into that idea as well. I doubt though that there have been too many more influential bands. They are often given (wrongly in my opinion) credit for creating prog metal which I'm guessing is the most popular of prog genres nowadays (the metal fraternity in general dwarfs the prog fraternity). Prog forums like this are becoming ever more niche and you only have to look at the pitiful number of ratings for new albums on the site to gain an understanding of that. Of course there is going to be a sense of protecting the pillars of prog (Yes, Genesis, Floyd, Crimson are that but Rush not) and it almost feels that we are drawing in the wagons as time goes on.
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 22:29
My ranking of your top five: Rush King Crimson Pink Floyd Genesis Yes
And I love them all by the way.
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 12 2024 at 00:23
Pink Floyd, and then Yes, and then... well, I love them all.
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 12 2024 at 00:59
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 12 2024 at 11:06
Mellotron Storm wrote:
My ranking of your top five: Rush King Crimson Pink Floyd Genesis Yes
And I love them all by the way.
And judging by all the reviews you do on here I would say a plethora of other bands too.
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 09:54
richardh wrote:
essexboyinwales wrote:
richardh wrote:
Rush
1. ELP
2. IQ
3. Rush
4. Big Big Train
5. Eloy
6. Yes
7. Genesis
8. Porcupine Tree
9. Pink Floyd
10.Glass Hammer
11.Magenta
12.Kayak
13.Van Der Graaf Generator
14.Camel
15.King Crimson
Your taste is often good Richard, so I may have to try listening to the 3 bands on your list that I’ve never heard - Eloy, Glass Hammer and Kayak….
thank you
Eloy - best go for the seventies trio of Dawn, Ocean and Silent Cries And Mighty Echoes
Glass Hammer - Lex Rex, Chronomotree and Shadowlands
Kayak - First 3 albums up to Royal Bed Bouncer
Those are the best 'starter' albums for those bands I think.
Listening to Dawn now👍😊
------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 10:19
I need to explore Kayak a bit more. As for G.H. their last one from 2023 is very good and so is Lex Rex. Chronometree is ok but a bit marred by odd vocals. I haven't heard Shadowland (yet). As for Eloy I currently have Power and the Passion up to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. All are good. I probably like Silent Cries the best but that might be because it's the one I'm most familiar with. Dawn hasn't really grown on me yet. At first I thought I liked it but it didn't seem to have the keyboard power (especially synth) of the two that followed it. It seemed more orchestral or something which maybe didn't work for me on that. However, it may require more listens and I do still like it.
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 10:41
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I need to explore Kayak a bit more. As for G.H. their last one from 2023 is very good and so is Lex Rex. Chronometree is ok but a bit marred by odd vocals. I haven't heard Shadowland (yet). As for Eloy I currently have Power and the Passion up to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. All are good. I probably like Silent Cries the best but that might be because it's the one I'm most familiar with. Dawn hasn't really grown on me yet. At first I thought I liked it but it didn't seem to have the keyboard power (especially synth) of the two that followed it. It seemed more orchestral or something which maybe didn't work for me on that. However, it may require more listens and I do still like it.
I enjoyed Dawn quite a bit - and the suggestion of increased keyboard power in the next 2 albums will definitely lead me to them!😎
------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 12:45
Impossible to limit my vote to the "rule of 5"
Genesis (from Trespass to Duke) King Crimson : from In the court to USA Yes : All with Jon Anderson Pink Floyd : All VDGG : From Aerosol to Quiet Zone GG : From GG to Free Hand Jethro Tull : from this Was to Stormwatch Camel : All PFM : From Storia to Jet Lag
Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 13:07
This Is my ranking of the top five:
1) King Crimson
2) Genesis
3) Pink Floyd
4) Yes
5) Rush
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This my top five:
1) 💞King Crimson💞
2) 💞Magma💞
3) Genesis
4) Van Der Graaf Generator
5) Änglagård/Banco/Marillion
------------- Bloody bloody racket and rumpus
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 13:51
1. Rush
2. Yes
3. Pink Floyd
4. Genesis
5. King Crimson
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 23:05
essexboyinwales wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I need to explore Kayak a bit more. As for G.H. their last one from 2023 is very good and so is Lex Rex. Chronometree is ok but a bit marred by odd vocals. I haven't heard Shadowland (yet). As for Eloy I currently have Power and the Passion up to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. All are good. I probably like Silent Cries the best but that might be because it's the one I'm most familiar with. Dawn hasn't really grown on me yet. At first I thought I liked it but it didn't seem to have the keyboard power (especially synth) of the two that followed it. It seemed more orchestral or something which maybe didn't work for me on that. However, it may require more listens and I do still like it.
I enjoyed Dawn quite a bit - and the suggestion of increased keyboard power in the next 2 albums will definitely lead me to them!😎
those 3 albums also have the mighty beast of the drum Jurgen Rosenthal on them. They are the most powerful Eloy albums for a reason! I actually prefer the Colours - Metromania era (80's). That's when I first heard them. Those albums have great synths but may appeal more to those who love electronica.
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 09:26
richardh wrote:
essexboyinwales wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I need to explore Kayak a bit more. As for G.H. their last one from 2023 is very good and so is Lex Rex. Chronometree is ok but a bit marred by odd vocals. I haven't heard Shadowland (yet). As for Eloy I currently have Power and the Passion up to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. All are good. I probably like Silent Cries the best but that might be because it's the one I'm most familiar with. Dawn hasn't really grown on me yet. At first I thought I liked it but it didn't seem to have the keyboard power (especially synth) of the two that followed it. It seemed more orchestral or something which maybe didn't work for me on that. However, it may require more listens and I do still like it.
I enjoyed Dawn quite a bit - and the suggestion of increased keyboard power in the next 2 albums will definitely lead me to them!😎
those 3 albums also have the mighty beast of the drum Jurgen Rosenthal on them. They are the most powerful Eloy albums for a reason! I actually prefer the Colours - Metromania era (80's). That's when I first heard them. Those albums have great synths but may appeal more to those who love electronica.
Well I’ve listened to all 3 of those albums now and enjoyed them all very much! Why did I not know of them previously?! I can hear their influence on IQ so it’s not much of a surprise that I’ve enjoyed them so much. Will definitely be delving deeply….
------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 12:20
I hear Genesis in IQ but not Eloy. Maybe I'm not familiar enough with Eloy though.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 13:12
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I hear Genesis in IQ but not Eloy. Maybe I'm not familiar enough with Eloy though.
You are right, no Genesis in Eloy. There is some Floyd in there though.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 14:24
Cristi wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I hear Genesis in IQ but not Eloy. Maybe I'm not familiar enough with Eloy though.
You are right, no Genesis in Eloy. There is some Floyd in there though.
There is no Eloy in IQ is what I meant. Or if there is I don't hear it. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.