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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Then call it "Danish metal". it's more accurate. 
I can't call Sea Sun and A Wish of Life for "Danish metal". Big smile
I was talking about Mercyful Fate and you knew that... Ouch

And I was talking about the whole Danish Rock genre broadly understood. Smile

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Then call it "Danish metal". it's more accurate. 
I can't call Sea Sun and A Wish of Life for "Danish metal". Big smile
I was talking about Mercyful Fate and you knew that... Ouch

And I was talking about the whole Danish Rock genre broadly understood. Smile


For someone obsessed with defining everything, you make no difference between rock and metal?! Confused 
Good job...  
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Certainly I am no metallurgist and it may be best to have a devoted topic on this, but I have considered Heavy Metal to be a form of rock, and an outgrowth/ development from hard rock. So it would not be weird for me to see that Heavy Metal album listed with some other bands' albums under a general rock label.

Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.

By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.



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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Certainly I am no metallurgist and it may be best to have a devoted topic on this, but I have considered Heavy Metal to be a form of rock, and an outgrowth/ development from hard rock. So it would not be weird for me to see that Heavy Metal album listed with some other bands' albums under a general rock label.

Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.

By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.


nah, he's just cheeky. 

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Certainly I am no metallurgist and it may be best to have a devoted topic on this, but I have considered Heavy Metal to be a form of rock, and an outgrowth/ development from hard rock. So it would not be weird for me to see that Heavy Metal album listed with some other bands' albums under a general rock label.

Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.

By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.



nah, he's just cheeky. 



I don't believe so in this case, but we do need a cheeky emoji at this site.

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Now you got me wanting to discuss Wyatt's Rock Bottom, which is both rock AND bottom, could add some metal to it with a Steely Dan.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

nah, he's just cheeky. 


I don't believe so in this case, but we do need a cheeky emoji at this site.

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Now you got me wanting to discuss Wyatt's Rock Bottom, which is both rock AND bottom, could add some metal to it with a Steely Dan.



Edited by Cristi - September 26 2024 at 10:08
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:



nah, he's just cheeky. 



I don't believe so in this case, but we do need a cheeky emoji at this site.

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Now you got me wanting to discuss Wyatt's Rock Bottom, which is both rock AND bottom, could add some metal to it with a Steely Dan.




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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.

While I asked somebody once and not so long time ago, if Metal was mostly considered as a part of Rock genre or not, and the answer was that it of course was. Wink

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.

While I asked somebody once and not so long time ago, if Metal was mostly considered as a part of Rock genre or not, and the answer was that it of course was. Wink


In the last 3-4 decades or so, metal started to stand on his own, growing on its own, so much than even its subgenres got its own subgenres. LOL

So yeah, Mercyful Fate is not a rock band. 


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Yes, a couple of very nice lists posted more here, but after all the disturbance, I think that I'd like to repost this post of mine, so it can get some more attention:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Even in the '80s, I was mostly into mainstream Rock and different kind of much Pop-influenced music, I also liked much and listened to other kinds of music. For instance the Danish Before's A Wish of Life on my list here, which I today find to be some of the very best Post-Punk ever, with influences like Joy Division, The Doors and the Greek proggers, PLJ Band. 
Here's the title track from this album - powerful and very emotional stuff:
                        
                         

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.


Time for your ore bands poll!
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.


Time for your ore bands poll!


Oredinarily I might, but the polls section is so inundated with my polls that I feel that to make another now would be bang out of oreder. :)
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.


Time for your ore bands poll!


Oredinarily I might, but the polls section is so inundated with my polls that I feel that to make another now would be bang out of oreder. :)


Still, there are some overlooked gems that need exposure, and we must get to the geode of the matter.
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Iron Butterfly
Led Zeppelin
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No alloys allowed
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Metal Bands (including alloys) Smile

Brass Construction
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

In the last 3-4 decades or so, metal started to stand on his own, growing on its own, so much than even its subgenres got its own subgenres. LOL

So yeah, Mercyful Fate is not a rock band. 

Still, I consider Metal to be a part of Rock genre if broadly defined, and as far as I've seen it, it's rather common to do it. Star

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

In the last 3-4 decades or so, metal started to stand on his own, growing on its own, so much than even its subgenres got its own subgenres. LOL

So yeah, Mercyful Fate is not a rock band. 

Still, I consider Metal to be a part of Rock genre if broadly defined, and as far as I've seen it, it's rather common to do it. Star


Now you argue for the sake of arguing... Ouch

In its early days, metal was part of rock but it has evolved since then and is its own thing now. 


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Whether the music of Melissa is Heavy metal, metal, a form of hard rock, all of those, riff-busting reggae, whatever...

This is good stuff...

The title track from "Melissa"



That track sounds like rock and metal (heavy metal) to these ears, but again I am no expert.

It's a Black Sabbath influenced band and I also have been told by some metal people that classic heavy metal is not true metal (they differentiated heavy metal from other metal music). I like plenty of Heavy Metal while not being much of a metal fan. I do like heavy music (heavier than metal, I might say).

Maybe a good debate for metal music archives. I had a debate there about classification in its early days on the topic of hard rock, heavy metal and metal. I don't see the level of separation that some propose between genres. and I also like to focus more on the music of an individual album or track rather than generalisations of genre about bands with various albums which has been a source of some differences in opinion.

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Steel Pulse


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These guys rocked hard on stage - at least when I saw them a few times at the Carribean Festival on the Toronto Islands in the early 80's.
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