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Topic: Your fave Rock albums IN the '80s, and still ok?Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your fave Rock albums IN the '80s, and still ok?
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 07:53
My musical tastes in the '80s were very different from the other of the last five decades, as I was mostly into mainstream Rock and different kind of much Pop-influenced music. Some of my favourite artists from then, I'm even almost too ashamed to mention today. Yet, there're a number of albums from that period of mine, I still find okay or even some very enjoyable to listen to.
Various artists (USA) - Let them eat Jellybeans! 17 Extracts from Americasdarker Side (1981)
How about you?
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Replies: Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 08:45
The Sting albums from the 80s are fantastic!
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 08:49
The 80s Jesus And Mary Chain albums.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 09:12
The 80's Dire Straits, Fleetwood Mac and U2 albums.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 09:19
Todd Rundgren - Nearly Human They Might Be Giants - s/t Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son Elvis Costello - Trust Joe Jackson - Big World Rush - Moving Pictures Zappa - You Are What You Is Talking Heads - Little Creatures Utopia - Adventures in Utopia The Police - Synchronicity
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 09:20
I realise that my tastes really have not changed very much when looking at these that I "dug" in the 80s and still "dig", as some of the retro cool kids say (there are many more I could list, especially soundtracks).
EDIT: Sorry, forgot it was rock. I've never really been much of a rocker despite liking much music of the rock related or rock fusion variety. Anyway, at the least Midnight Oil would count. But then Sade is mentioned, and I had not thought of Sade as rock.
Laurie Anderson - Big Science (1982) Kate Bush - Hounds of Love (1985) Goiorgio Moroder - Cat People (1982) Echo and the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain (1984) Gary Numan - Telekon (1980) Klaus Doldinger - Das Boot (1981) Midnight Oil - Diesel and Dust (1987)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 09:50
Logan wrote:
EDIT: Sorry, forgot it was rock. I've never really been much of a rocker despite liking much music of the rock related or rock fusion variety. Anyway, at the least Midnight Oil would count. But then Sade is mentioned, and I had not thought of Sade as rock.
The Rock, I mean, is in a very broad sense. I coudn't think of a better term.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 09:53
I have all of Sade's albums on CD so I'll give her/them a worthy mention too.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 09:54
^^ Thanks, I'm glad. So much is at least rock related at least, and now that I think about it, my list is okay despite putting it together without thinking things through first -- other than thinking I liked it then and now. Incidentally, I also like Sade. She is "quality".
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 09:59
Lewian wrote:
The Sting albums from the 80s are fantastic!
Yep. When you have jazz greats... Kenny Kirkland and Branford Marsalis it's easy.
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 10:32
In no particular order:
Talking Heads - Remain In Light
Killing Joke - What's This For?
Siouxsie & The Banshees - JuJu
Roxy Music - Avalon
Rolling Stones - Tattoo You
Motorhead - Ace Of Spades
Thin Lizzy - Chinatown
David Bowie - Scary Monsters
Magazine - The Correct Use Of Soap
Rainbow - Difficult To Cure
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 11:01
It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.
Giorgio Moroder's score for The Cat People is fantastic and that's one I still listen to. The synth tones are gorgeous. The music is evocative and transporting. I dig the movie, too. The '80s was a swell time for electronic soundtracks (and movies, duh).
Midnight Oil's cool. I should listen to them more. Same for Gary Numan.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 11:27
80s albums (mostly on cassette tape but some on vinyl- see asterisk)
Styx - Kilroy was Here
Journey - Frontiers
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Yes -90125 and Big Generator
Duran Duran - Rio
Men at work - Business as Usual
Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - I Love Rock N Roll *
U2- Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree
Foreigner - 4
The J. Geils Band - Freeze Frame *
Genesis - Invisible Touch
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA*
A Flock of Seagulls - Same *
Quiet Riot - Metal Health (Christmas present from an old friend) *
David Bowie - Let's Dance
The Police - Synchronicity
Van Halen - 1984 and OU812
Aerosmith - Permanent Vacation
Rush - Signals
The Who - It's Hard
The Moody Blues - The Other Side of LIfe and Sur La Mer
Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain
King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair and Discipline (didn't hear Beat until way later)
* = Owned it on vinyl album
I currently own about half of those on cd.
At some point in the 80s I got into classic rock and prog and was listening more to stuff like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Who, King Crimson, Yes, Moody Blues and older Genesis among a few others.
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 11:54
hmm... I really don't think I'm going to add much that is original to this discussion
stuff I listened to FROM the 80's which is still relevant to me now?
Rush, Marillion, BJH, APP, Supertramp, (some) Mike Oldfield....
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 12:47
Jared wrote:
stuff I listened to FROM the 80's which is still relevant to me now?
It doesn't have to be from the '80s, but IN the '80s.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 13:05
Some rather weak years in the later 80's
EDIT: I boldened the albums I knew back then and bought upon release
12Art ZoydGeneration Sans Futur Fra1980
12Eskaton4 VisionsFra1980Zeuhl
12Frank Marino & Mahogany
RushWhat's NextCan1980
12CircusTearless, Fearless and Even LessSwz1980
11Asia MinorBetween Flesh and DivineFra1980
11Beausoleil, BobbyLucifer RisingUSA1980
11Black SabbathHeaven and HellEng1980
11Blue MotionBlue MotionSwz1980
11EmeraudeGeoffroyFra1980
11EnborKatebegiakBsq1980
11Iron MaidenIron MaidenEng1980
11 King Crimson Discipline
11ManeigeMontreal 6AM Can1980
11PresentTriskaidekaphobieBel1980
11Santana, Devadip CarlosThe Swing of DelightUSA1980
11Slick, GraceDreamsUSA1980
11Ballard, RussBarnett DogsEng1980
12Dün ErosFra1981
12ItoizAlkoleaBsq1981
11Jaivas,
LosAlturas de Machu PicchuChl1981
11PresentTriskaidekaphobie
11Univers
ZeroCeux Du DehorsBel1981
12Dire StraitsLove Over GoldEng1982
11CongresoHa Llegado CartaChl1982
11Jaivas, LosAconcaguaChl1982
11Jam, TheThe GiftEng1982
12BacamarteDepois Do FimBra1983
12MarillionScript For a Jester's TearEng1983
12Violent
FemmesViolent FemmesUSA1983
13Univers ZeroUZEDBel1984
12Jaivas,
LosObras De Violeta ParraChl1984
12Talking Heads Stop Making SenseUSA1984
11Vaughan, Stevie Ray / Double
TroubleCouldn't Stand the Weather
11 Sade Diamond Life
13SupertrampBrother Where You BoundEng1985
11Cult, TheLoveEng1985
11Harper, RoyJugula Eng1985
11PresentLe Poison Qui Rend FouBel1985
11News From BabelLetters Home Eng1986
10U2The Joshua TreeIre1987
11Talk TalkSpirit of EdenEng1988
12Tangle EdgeIn Search of A New DawnNor1989
12Lenny Kravitz – Let Love Rule
11Cooper, LindsayOh, MoscowEng1989
11Noir
DésirVeuillez Rendre l'āme Fra1989
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 14:22
It may look like that person-historical subjects don't have so much interest anymore.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 14:42
My (pretty stable) favorite from the 80s (one release per artist, removed albums I discovered in the 90s or later):
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 15:37
more like pissing on the OPs.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 15:48
I posted my favorite releases from the 1980s which I listened to back then and still listen to now. What is the problem? You also only listed 1980s releases btw.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 15:50
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
My (pretty stable) favorite from the 80s (one release per artist):
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:10
^ You make up for that with your avatar!
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:13
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I posted my favorite releases from the 1980s which I listened to back then and still listen to now. What is the problem? You also only listed 1980s releases btw.
Okay, sorry, I misunderstood that. But the reason for, I only listed '80s releases, is that it was almost only that kind I listened to.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:18
Well, I was growing up during the 80s. The list does contain a few albums which I only learned about in the 90s. Will remove them for the sake of authenticity ...
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:22
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Well, I was growing up during the 80s. The list does contain a few albums which I only learned about in the 90s. Will remove them for the sake of authenticity ...
Don't bother that much for my sake.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:49
verslibre wrote:
It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.
Giorgio Moroder's score for The Cat People is fantastic and that's one I still listen to. The synth tones are gorgeous. The music is evocative and transporting. I dig the movie, too. The '80s was a swell time for electronic soundtracks (and movies, duh).
Midnight Oil's cool. I should listen to them more. Same for Gary Numan.
The 80s is so cool for music in the 80s. John Carpenter (I adore Escape From New York), Wendy Carlos for Tron....
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I might try to post a longer list of albums I liked in the 80s and still like (I will keep to music from the 80s -- I prefer that focus).
These are some ones from others 80s lists I got into post-80s.
- Art Zoyd - Generation Sans Futur (Started listening to Art Zoyd in maybe 2005, and the two albums here that got mentioned by two others have alternated as my favourite AZ album) - Art Zoyd - Le Mariage du Ciel et de l'Enfer (I adore this album) - Bacamarte - Depois do Fim (discovered in 2005 or 2006) - Beausoleil, Bobby - Lucifer Rising (discovered in about 2010, maybe, thanks to a PA user recommendation to me) - Bowie, David - Scary Monsters (2009 maybe? I might have heard it in full in the 80s but it was not until Bowie was being added to this site that I more deeply explored his discography. That said, this album actually has never completely clicked) - Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses. I knew Depeche Mode but I only got into this in very recent years. - Dün - Eros . A favourite of mine in 2005/2006, which still is. - Eskaton - 4 Visions. Got to know this when I got to know Eros. Love this album. - Jaivas, Los - Alturas de Machu Picchu. Also first heard in 2005. Actually have not listened to it for quite some years. - News From Babel - Letters Home. First heard in maybe 2010 as a recommendation from the same PA user as recommended Beausoleil. - Present - Triskaidekaphobie. Got into a little while before I joined PA. - Sade - Diamond Life. I got into this in the late 90s. - Siouxsie & The Banshees - JuJu. It's only in the last few years that I became totally infatuated with Siouxsie and The B, and really explored her music, and this is an incredible album. S&TB has rocked my world! - Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden. heard it first some time after I joined PA, but only in recent years have I really loved Talk Talk. - Talking Heads - Remain In Light. Just really got into this album after joining PA. - Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors. Got into this in 2005. This was my original UZ favourite album, and it is great, - Univers Zero - UZED . Got into this in 2006. - Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes. Heard VF in the 80s, but only listened to this album in full and really appreciate it in the last two years. - John Zorn- - Naked City. Got into this in about 2009 and revisited it again recently and like it more than ever.
Albums mentioned that I loved in the 80s and have fond memories of at least:
- David Bowie - Let's Dance. It's the B side I loved - Roxy Music - Avalon. I really liked this in the 80s, I should listen again. - Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense. Been many years since I last listened to it in full. - U2 - The Joshua Tree. I have not heard this in so many years. - The Who - It's Hard. First album I bought for my self (on cassette). "I've Known No War" is terrific. I would have added it to my list but I last listened to it in full over 20 years ago.
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And now a couple of artists in PA who had work in the 80s that I loved in the 80s and still like: Kitaro and Vangelis.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 02:47
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
You also only listed 1980s releases btw.
This remark of yours made me think about that in the first half of the '80s, I liked much a live album from the late '70s, so I've added it to my list.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 03:06
How is this thread different from this former one?
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 03:32
^ back in the 1980s I was between 4 and 14 years old, so these releases represent my first experiences with records. Needless to say that I was a metalhead first and foremost
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 03:54
David_D wrote:
It may look like that person-historical subjects don't have so much interest anymore.
I'm not sure where you're going with that statement and your OP.
I listed all of my faves 80's albums, but needless to say that I didn't know half of them back then - I was 17 in 1980. I can always go back to my list and bolden the albums I was aware of and bought at release time, but something tells me that you could also probably do that for me without being far off from my then-tastes.
in the first part of the 80's, I was introducing myself to JR/F (namely via Caravanserai, Mahavishnu, RTF, 11th House, etc...), partly because I had diminishing returns every new year with pop/rock aired on the radio. Less and less newly-released albums pleased me.
In the second half of the 70's, I got into late-50's/60's/70's jazz - but only skimmed the surface (Mingus Trane Miles, McCoy), but I also disliked the "smooth jazz" of the 80's. From 89 onwards, I kind of returned to rock gradually (more/better albums) with 91/92/93 the return of prog
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 04:10
Cristi wrote:
How is this thread different from this former one?
The former was about present favourite non-Prog albums FROM the '80s, while this one, person-historical, is about one's favourite albums IN the '80s, and that may include pre-'80s albums plus Prog - and if you for instance compare my own lists from these two threads, they're very different, even some albums are in both.
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Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 04:54
Ten 80s rock albums, not in any particular order
The Kinks – Give the People What They Want Slade – Till Deaf Do Us Part The Who – Face Dances Pete Townshend – Empty Glass Secret Affair – Behind Closed Doors Bruce Springsteen – The River Joe Cocker – Sheffield Steel Graham Parker and The Rumour – The Up Escalator Graham Parker – Another Grey Area The Rolling Stones – Tattoo You
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 04:55
Sean Trane wrote:
David_D wrote:
It may look like that person-historical subjects don't have so much interest anymore.
I'm not sure where you're going with that statement and your OP.
Well, that statement is very much my impression from both this thread so far and the former https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133562" rel="nofollow - Your top 15 progressive music albums IN the '70s? .
Sean Trane wrote:
in the first part of the 80's, I was introducing myself to JR/F (namely via Caravanserai, Mahavishnu, RTF, 11th House, etc...), partly because I had diminishing returns every new year with pop/rock aired on the radio. Less and less newly-released albums pleased me.
In the second half of the 70's, I got into late-50's/60's/70's jazz - but only skimmed the surface (Mingus Trane Miles, McCoy), but I also disliked the "smooth jazz" of the 80's. From 89 onwards, I kind of returned to rock gradually (more/better albums) with 91/92/93 the return of prog
Thank you very much for these comments, as that kind is not least what I've had in my mind with this thread.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 05:30
As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 05:31
Hrychu wrote:
As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
I think some have misunderstood the OP and just listed favorite 80s albums.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 05:34
Hrychu wrote:
As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 05:43
I'm surely cheered up, Hrychu.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 05:53
Hrychu wrote:
As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
Well, in the 80's, the early 70's were totally denigrated, seen as "passé" and uncool. In North Am, Hippies were replaced by Yuppies (often exactly the same age & generation), but Yuppies drove BMW - instead of worn-out VW Combis
Of course the later-70's weren't, whether punk or Arena/corporate rock (AOR, if you wish), but also reggae and later funk... whatever floated the boat of MTV.
To say +/- simply (a shortcut, of course), MTV ruled (read ruined) the 80's for thousands of 70's music fans.
The early-70's only came back in fashion halfway through the 00's.
Oddly enough the 50's & 60's were not hated as there were revivals like Rockabilly (Stray Carts, Eine Young Cannibals) or the New Romantics fad and even modern psychedelia (Bevis Frond).
However, if RIO was born in the second half of the 70's, it thrived during the 80's, but that was outside the limelight (much like neo-prog). A lot of those albums in my list in page 1 are not bolded out and I discovered in the second half of the 90's. BTW, I only listed the albums above or equal a Gnosis 11 ( out of 15 max, that are +/- considered as a B+ grade)
verslibre wrote:
It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.
What made the big diff between Sade and the rest of women-oriented pop is that Sade was a real band (stable line-up too) that took their singer's middle name as their band's name. I didn't know this back then, though, but obviously I'd subconsciously heard the difference and these guys had musicianship at least equal to Level 42 (but I never those dude's music).
However, TBH, by their second album (TBH, only the debut is really interesting, IMHO), they'd said everything they had to say... the rest was more of the same.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 07:28
Sean Trane wrote:
From 89 onwards, I kind of returned to rock gradually (more/better albums) with 91/92/93 the return of prog
exactly the same in my case
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 07:32
I was born in 1975, so I was
* An infant/toddler in the 70s
* in Kindergarten/elementary school in the 80s
* a teenager in the 90s
So my main decade is obviously the 90s. Even though I was already actively listening to music in the 80s, in retrospect they seem almost "prehistoric" to me, only by the end of the 80s I was starting to identify with contemporary music. From the 90s onwards I began to listen to the great rock releases of the 70s, as well as the whole NWOBHM.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 07:56
Sean Trane wrote:
Well, in the 80's, the early 70's were totally denigrated, seen as "passé" and uncool. In North Am, Hippies were replaced by Yuppies (often exactly the same age & generation), but Yuppies drove BMW - instead of worn-out VW Combis
Of course the later-70's weren't, whether punk or Arena/corporate rock (AOR, if you wish), but also reggae and later funk... whatever floated the boat of MTV.
Throughout the '80s, I still had all my music from the '70s (on cassettes + 4 LPs), but I don't remember listening to any of it, even I probably did.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 09:53
I wish this forum had sub-threads so when you get multiple posts responding to a specific post, it would keep them all in order better.
Cristi wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
I think some have misunderstood the OP and just listed favorite 80s albums.
David_D wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
David_D wrote:
I'm surely cheered up, Hrychu.
THE original post has since been edited (not sure what was changed), I had not thought that there were any pre-80s albums in David's list originally (now one), but I had interpreted this topic as albums from the 80s that you liked in the 80s and still like today. {EDIT: I had thought that I had read the original post carefully, but had neglected the rock expectation. Had the examples not been from the 80s of David's albums then I would have made different inferences when interpreting the the topic. We often learn "by example"}.
I became a teen in the 80s, and most of what I listened to in the 80s was from the 60s and 70s. My friends and I tended to play "classic rock" from the 60s and 70s like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Neil Young, Jethro Tull {EDIT: The Doors, Cream, Jimi Hendrix and Santana were some absolutes faves of mine in the 80s). A lot of other kids were more into newer stuff. I wish that I had discovered more 80s music in the 80s as I think it's a fantastic time for music. And much as i love much 60s and 70s music, I am more interested in sharing and finding out about people's 80s tastes in the 80s (helps to focus the topic for me). And 70s and 60s can feel stale to me since I had explored so very much yet I have been really turned on to plenty of 80s music in the last few years that sounds so fresh to me and incredible. I still do discover plenty of music from lots of decades, by the way.
That said, as an adult in the 90s, I had more opportunity to experience and enjoy live music.
By the way, people often misinterpret my intent even when I have gone to significant efforts to try to be clear (and sometimes misinterpret my jokes as mean-spirited when I don't tend to go for the kind of humour meant to insult, wound, belittle, or make fun of others.) It happens, no big deal. Hopefully we can still appreciate and demonstrate our appreciation for the efforts of people taking the time to respond to our topics even when they get it wrong (provided it's not snarky, condescending, complaining, deliberately rude...).
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 10:17
I was born in 70 so I really missed being into music in the 70s except for the Beatles who I was into around age 8. I got into top 40/pop music at around 11 1/2 in late 81 and finally got into rock in late 82. I was a a teenager in the 80s but by 1984 or so I was getting more into classic rock/prog and less into what was current at the time. I think Led Zeppelin was the first band who I got into who weren't current since they broke up about 3 or 4 years before I got into them. After that Yes then Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Pink Floyd and others. I think the 90s is a better decade for music but the 80s were probably more "fun."
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 10:46
Hrychu wrote:
As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
No, I listened to everything Tangerine Dream had released up to that point, with Rubycon, Stratosfear, Encore, Sorcerer and Force Majeure spending plenty of time in the player.
My favorite album by Vangelis back then was Albedo 0.39, which was released in 1976.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 11:04
Sean Trane wrote:
verslibre wrote:
It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.
What made the big diff between Sade and the rest of women-oriented pop is that Sade was a real band (stable line-up too) that took their singer's middle name as their band's name. I didn't know this back then, though, but obviously I'd subconsciously heard the difference and these guys had musicianship at least equal to Level 42 (but I never those dude's music).
Yes, Sade is the band's name, and I go out of my way to refer to their music and not her music, which confuses 9/10 people.
Sean Trane wrote:
However, TBH, by their second album (TBH, only the debut is really interesting, IMHO), they'd said everything they had to say... the rest was more of the same.
Yes and no. They were kind of locked in, which is no doubt why the intervals between albums grew longer. They're very consistent but they had some fine songs on subsequent albums. The upbeat "Paradise" from Stronger than Pride became yet another concert highlight.
While the band was "resting" in the '90s, the three guys attempted a formula tweak with other vocalists (they called themselves Sweetback) and gained little momentum outside England.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 11:20
Logan wrote:
verslibre wrote:
It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.
Giorgio Moroder's score for The Cat People is fantastic and that's one I still listen to. The synth tones are gorgeous. The music is evocative and transporting. I dig the movie, too. The '80s was a swell time for electronic soundtracks (and movies, duh).
Midnight Oil's cool. I should listen to them more. Same for Gary Numan.
The 80s is so cool for music in the 80s. John Carpenter (I adore Escape From New York), Wendy Carlos for Tron....
TRON is fantastic, as is Carlos' official OOP release of Clockwork Orange (the entirely electronic version). I'm glad I have the CDs because Carlos orders all uploads to be taken down if they're not cover versions.
More of Carpenter's "killer" scores: Christine, The Fog and Prince of Darkness (probably my favorite).
Logan wrote:
And now a couple of artists in PA who had work in the 80s that I loved in the 80s and still like: Kitaro and Vangelis.
Kitaro's early works are breathtaking. Ki, Astral Trip and Oasis blew me away way back when.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 11:29
Are Kitaro, Sade, and Vangelis rock?
I would like to mention there was a lot of good fusion in the 80s.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 13:00
^ Vangelis can rock (pretty eclectic artist).
The Dragon is so great.
And so can Kitaro rock, especially with Far East Family Band.
But see this from page one of this thread:
David_D wrote:
Logan wrote:
EDIT: Sorry, forgot it was rock. I've never really been much of a rocker despite liking much music of the rock related or rock fusion variety. Anyway, at the least Midnight Oil would count. But then Sade is mentioned, and I had not thought of Sade as rock.
The Rock, I mean, is in a very broad sense. I coudn't think of a better term.
I'd say that most of what has been mentioned is at least sufficient rock related enough for me.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 13:04
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 13:53
Rate Your Music doesn't tag Vangelis, Kitaro, or Sade as Rock. No big deal... It tags Holdsworth as progressive rock, and we played Holdsworth constantly IN the 80s.
This rocks...
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 14:23
I prefer to look at the individual album labels. I would not say that Vangelis or Kitaro are primarily artists making rock music, far from it, but both have delved into those avenues (and incorporated rock elements).
the beauty of RYM to me is that it tags individual albums.
Vangelis' Earth from 1973 is tagged at RYM as primary labels as Psychedelic Folk, Progressive Rock, Progressive Folk
Sounds like rock to me (and yeah, I do think Vangelis should be in a proper Prog category. And so good).
Vangelis' Heaven and Hell (1975) is tagged Progressive Electronic, Symphonic Prog (and Neoclassical New Age, Zeuhl as secondary labels)
Vangelis' The Dragon (the one I specifically mentioned) is labelled Progressive Rock, Psychedelic Rock, Acid Rock (and Jam Band, Jazz-Rock as secpondary labels). More importantly, it clearly sounds like rock.
* To be fair, Vangelis was not pleased with The Dragon being released. Awesome album. Vangelis was more rock in the 70s, but then David said this is open to discussing pre-80s music as long as we liked it in the 80s.
For rock Kitaro, I would look to his involvement with Far East Family Band primarily (rather than under his own name, but rock comes into later music).
Anyway, to me I care more about whether I enjoy the music than how it's labelled, but labels are good for discovering music. I'm fine with David using a loose rock interpretation for this topic.
Rock or not, and I would not call it rock, I love early Kitaro albums. Oasis is what turned me into him. And his work with Far East Family band is excellent for my tastes.
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 14:56
In the very early 80's i was listening to a very eclectic mix, from 60's/70's prog and US west coast through lots of 'free festival' Jam and space rock to NWOBPR (Neo prog) as well as stuff like Killing Joke, Magazine, Japan, XTC, Cocteau twins and punky stuff like Crass, Poison girls, the Slits and quite a bit of dub reggae. By the end of the 80's i was married then divorced so not listening to that much music for a while...
Not in any order:
Rush- all those 80's lps
Living colour- Vivid.. that lp ROCKED and still does
Eloy- Performance / metromania
Ozric Tentacles- Pungent Effulgent
Here & Now- Fantasy shift & Theatre
Talking Heads- remain in light and speaking in tongues
loads of others i cant just call to memory at this moment
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 00:00
Ok this is what I liked IN the 80's and still enjoy (rock music only so no Kate Bush!)
Rush - Moving Pictures
The Police - Ghost In The Machine
IQ - The Wake
Marillion - Seasons End
Simple Minds - Sparkle In The Rain
Iron Maiden - Seventh son of seventh son
Al Stewart - The Last Days Of The Century
Eloy - Time To Turn
Siousxie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope
Propaganda - A Secret Wish
(although my staple listening in the 80's was New Age, Synth, Oldfield etc as well as catching up with seventies prog)
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 01:29
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Rate Your Music doesn't tag Vangelis, Kitaro, or Sade as Rock. No big deal... It tags Holdsworth as progressive rock, and we played Holdsworth constantly IN the 80s.
That's very fine.
Logan wrote:
Hopefully we can still appreciate and demonstrate our appreciation for the efforts of people taking the time to respond to our topics even when they get it wrong (provided it's not snarky, condescending, complaining, deliberately rude...).
When talking about myself and this thread, it's a long story but I think that all the posts here and in "my" former thread, https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133562" rel="nofollow - Your top 15 progressive music albums IN the '70s? , speak for themselves.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 02:18
^ Whether we are talking the same thing or not: Nothing against the topics, I wouldn't have posted as much as I have if I did not find the threads or comments in it interesting to consider. Sometimes I have got disappointed about some responses in my topics, or that people don't seem to "get" it or play along as I expected, but then I can still be grateful with the effort of people who take the time to post. Not saying you should, I was really sharing a perspective for myself that seemed pertinent to me. I was even inspired enough by this topic to make one. I thought it was a very good topic and I support it. I also find lively topics (and good discussions) tend to take twists and turns, and can take on a life of their own, as this one has to whatever extent.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 02:40
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
I would like to mention there was a lot of good fusion in the 80s.
TBH, Fusion in the 80's either sounded to me either like Uzeb or lame near-ambient ECM stuff (didn't say I didn't like either, but that was too soft/smooth for my exuberant character). Holdsworth or McLaughlin fusions were unfortunately marred with these hateful synclavier gizmo that took the fire out of their guitar playing. I'd say that in a generalization, even Fusion & Jazz sucked a bit during the 80's, as opposed to the brilliant and often fiery 70's.
The 80's were cool for some things to be a late-teen/young-adult (didn't complain about my Uni days), but not music. It's around the mid-80's that I started wishing I'd been born a decade earlier, to haver profited more of music (via radio exposure of would-be buddies) . I definitely preferred talking & partying with hippies than yuppies (who were more into coke) and the climate was different too.
I'd originally planned my trip from Istanbul to Kabul/Katmandu for 81 (between HS and Uni), but Iran & Afghanistan closed up in 79. Soooo, my buddy and I decided for an Andes raid from Caracas to Tierra Del Fuego instead. Thankfully we did it then, because a couple years later, the communist guerillas started making the roads more dangerous/riskier in the South American continent. Pinochet's Chile wasn't an issue, since we weren't making politics.
Don't get me wrong, though: I still played tons of 70's music, but usually only with me & my then-GFs present. And sometimes, I surprised some of my trendy buddies with "uncool music"
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 04:53
Logan wrote:
^ Whether we are talking the same thing or not: Nothing against the topics, I wouldn't have posted as much as I have if I did not find the threads or comments in it interesting to consider. Sometimes I have got disappointed about some responses in my topics, or that people don't seem to "get" it or play along as I expected, but then I can still be grateful with the effort of people who take the time to post. Not saying you should, I was really sharing a perspective for myself that seemed pertinent to me. I was even inspired enough by this topic to make one. I thought it was a very good topic and I support it. I also find lively topics (and good discussions) tend to take twists and turns, and can take on a life of their own, as this one has to whatever extent.
I have to say that it's rather important to me that people follow my OPs. One can express criticism or different opinions, if having any, but if just not having sufficient interest in one of my topics, I prefer people to not participate.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 05:58
The thing is that most of the 70's acts that survived the turn of the decade (prog or not *) didn't even make average (let's stay polite) albums, and really sailed much under/below their former altitude, including The Stones & The Who (who were 60's bands).
From 70's prog bands, only Crimson, Supertramp and Waters/Floyd and ELPowell, managed not to be sinking too low in terms of quality (OK, Tull's Knave was OK, but the rest.... )
*: except if you're into metal (Priest, Sabbath, Maiden, BÖC, Motorhead and Purple, Wishbone - to a lesser extent - , etc...), then the early 80's were still good, but as the decade unraveled...
Logan wrote:
^ Whether we are talking the same thing or not: Nothing against the topics, I wouldn't have posted as much as I have if I did not find the threads or comments in it interesting to consider. Sometimes I have got disappointed about some responses in my topics, or that people don't seem to "get" it or play along as I expected, but then I can still be grateful with the effort of people who take the time to post. Not saying you should, I was really sharing a perspective for myself that seemed pertinent to me. I was even inspired enough by this topic to make one. I thought it was a very good topic and I support it. I also find lively topics (and good discussions) tend to take twists and turns, and can take on a life of their own, as this one has to whatever extent.
I didn't see that one... probably escaped my radar.
can you fingerpoint me to it, please?
I thought that David's goal in these two threads were good, but I may have misread his OP - maybe it was not obvious enough to me (and maybe others, since David is disollusioned by the results.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 06:03
The topic is difficult to handle for most people, including myself. To remember accurately what I listened to about 40 years ago, as a child, is next to impossible. So I approximated the answer as best I could
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 06:12
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The topic is difficult to handle for most people, including myself. To remember accurately what I listened to about 40 years ago, as a child, is next to impossible. So I approximated the answer as best I could
Given the time frame you gave us in the top post of this page, yes, I understand. You'd probably be more accurate if it was the 90's in question.
Myself, I don't remember that much what I listened to before I was 10 (at least not enough to make a list of it), but my rock record craze started circa 72/3 (+/- 10 yo) and started having cash enough to buy my albums in 74 , via newspaper delivery.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 06:41
Sean Trane wrote:
I didn't see that one... probably escaped my radar.
can you fingerpoint me to it, please?
https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133626" rel="nofollow - Better late than never: 90s acts got into post-90s
Sean Trane wrote:
I thought that David's goal in these two threads were good, but I may have misread his OP - maybe it was not obvious enough to me (and maybe others, since David is disollusioned by the results.
not by now
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 06:50
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The topic is difficult to handle for most people, including myself. To remember accurately what I listened to about 40 years ago, as a child, is next to impossible. So I approximated the answer as best I could
When that's the case, it's fine enough.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 06:54
Sean Trane wrote:
TBH, Fusion in the 80's either sounded to me either like Uzeb or lame near-ambient ECM stuff (didn't say I didn't like either, but that was too soft/smooth for my exuberant character). Holdsworth or McLaughlin fusions were unfortunately marred with these hateful synclavier gizmo that took the fire out of their guitar playing.
I guess you didn't hear The Dregs or Chick Corea Elektric Band, neither soft. The guitar synth was innovative and "progressive." Just because you didn't like guitar synth means nothing. Holdsworth and Metheny made plenty of 'firey' albums with the new technology and so did King Crimson.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 07:49
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
TBH, Fusion in the 80's either sounded to me either like Uzeb or lame near-ambient ECM stuff (didn't say I didn't like either, but that was too soft/smooth for my exuberant character). Holdsworth or McLaughlin fusions were unfortunately marred with these hateful synclavier gizmo that took the fire out of their guitar playing.
I guess you didn't hear The Dregs or Chick Corea Elektric Band, neither soft. The guitar synth was innovative and "progressive." Just because you didn't like guitar synth means nothing. Holdsworth and Metheny made plenty of 'firey' albums with the new technology and so did King Crimson.
To me, DD is more of a 70's band, even if they +/- stopped in 82.
TBH, I hate Metheny's Orchestrion (I know, not the same decade) as much as I hate the Synclavier (for guitars, I have no qualms about KB models).
Just because it's innovative (meaning new technology) doesn't make it progressive (Gated drums and rhythm boxes were innovative, but...)
ADMiola & Zappa also fell into this ugly trap/craze, but neither Frippy or Belew used synclaviers, TTBOMK*, which is more than I can say about Metheny (though I do like a couple of his very early-80's albums, but after Offramp, it's +/- over for me).
Seems like Synclavier managed to get the worst out of those fantastic players. John McLaughlin sounds bad on it ("Adventures in Radioland" -- cringe!), Holdsworth & Dimeola sounds terrible (and boring), etc.
They all just seem to totally lose their unique, individual touch whenever they strap on Synclavier. Was the novelty/marketing gimmick so strong back then that these fine artists couldn't notice how much damage was it doing to their music?
I almost wish they'd go back and re-record those LPs, because there's probably some terrific music hidden in there that was botched by the Synclavier.
The genre of Smooth jazz (it's a rather good name to describe the music encompassed) is generally viewed as the dominant form of jazz in the 80's. Even the Marsalis tribe dabbled into it, despite the scatholic-than-pope trad-jazz buff Wynton would like to admit.
*: I checked, they (Bobby & Ade) both toyed around with it, as most guitarist fell into this fad, but it doesn't sound lije it in their three albums.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 08:30
Sean Trane wrote:
... but neither Frippy or Belew used synclaviers, TTBOMK*
*: I checked, they (Bobby & Ade) both toyed around with it, as most guitarist fell into this fad, but it doesn't sound lije it in their three albums.
Really? How about the Sheltering Sky? All three of their 80s albums used guitar synths. Also, Belew used guitar synth on many of his solo recordings.
What is TTBOMK?
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 08:39
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
What is TTBOMK?
To The Best Of My Knowledge
(with a little help from Google)
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 14:23
McL sounds like Zawie in Mr Gone
it's even worse when he screws that white box on his guitar body
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 15:14
Sean Trane wrote:
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 15:28
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
What is TTBOMK?
To The Best Of My Knowledge
(with a little help from Google)
LOL, "AFAIK" is no longer good enough
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 15:48
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
What is TTBOMK?
To The Best Of My Knowledge
(with a little help from Google)
LOL, "AFAIK" is no longer good enough
YMBKYLT, of course it isn't
(you must be kidding, you little twerp)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 03:57
Even in the '80s, I was mostly into mainstream Rock and different kind of much Pop-influenced music, I also liked much and listened to other kinds of music. For instance the Danish Before's A Wish of Life on my list here, which I today find to be some of the very best Post-Punk ever, with influences like Joy Division, The Doors and the Greek proggers, PLJ Band.
Here's the title track from this album - powerful and very emotional stuff:
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 04:43
A Wish of Life is by the way one of the three Danish Rock albums that I'm most impressed by when looking at it from an international perspective, and the all three are:
Secret Oyster - Sea Sun (1974)
Before - A Wish of Life (1982)
Mercyful Fate - Melissa (1984)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 04:53
David_D wrote:
A Wish of Life is by the way one of the three Danish Rock albums that I'm most impressed by when looking at it from an international perspective, and the all three are:
Secret Oyster - Sea Sun (1974)
Before - A Wish of Life (1982)
Mercyful Fate - Melissa (1984)
Melissa is one of the most important heavy metal albums, influential and groundbreaking. Just calling it "Danish rock" belittles it quite a bit.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 05:07
Cristi wrote:
David_D wrote:
A Wish of Life is by the way one of the three Danish Rock albums that I'm most impressed by when looking at it from an international perspective, and the all three are:
Secret Oyster - Sea Sun (1974)
Before - A Wish of Life (1982)
Mercyful Fate - Melissa (1984)
Melissa is one of the most important heavy metal albums, influential and groundbreaking. Just calling it "Danish rock" belittles it quite a bit.
Well, I use Rock term in a broad sense here, and exactly because it's so groundbreaking and influential Heavy Metal / proto-Prog Metal album, I'm so impressed by it in an "international perspective" - and still, it is a Danish album and one Danes can be proud of, I think.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 05:10
David_D wrote:
Cristi wrote:
David_D wrote:
A Wish of Life is by the way one of the three Danish Rock albums that I'm most impressed by when looking at it from an international perspective, and the all three are:
Secret Oyster - Sea Sun (1974)
Before - A Wish of Life (1982)
Mercyful Fate - Melissa (1984)
Melissa is one of the most important heavy metal albums, influential and groundbreaking. Just calling it "Danish rock" belittles it quite a bit.
Well, I use Rock term in a broad sense here, and exactly because it's so groundbreaking and influential Heavy Metal / proto-Prog Metal album, I'm so impressed by it in an "international perspective" - and still, it is a Danish album and one Danes can be proud of, I think.
Then call it "Danish metal". it's more accurate.
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 06:43
I entered the 80's as a 16 year old and left as a 26 year old so my tastes changed dramatically through 6th Form College and University.
Rainbow - Rising Motorhead - Overkill Led Zeppelin - IV Deep Purple - In Rock Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast Black Sabbath - Paranoid Saxon - Wheels Of Steel AC/DC - Highway To Hell Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material The Stranglers - The Raven Supertramp - Crime Of The Century Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells ELO - Discovery Hawkwind - Hall Of The Mountain Grill The Pink Fairies - Kings Of Oblivion Leonard Cohen - New Skin For The Old Ceremony King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You Groundhogs - Split Caravan - In The Land Of Grey And Pink Yes - Close To The Edge Genesis - Trespass Jethro Tull - Aqualung Stevie Ray Vaughan - Texas Flood Gong - You Roy Harper - HQ Neil Young - After The Goldrush
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 09:18
Cristi wrote:
David_D wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Then call it "Danish metal". it's more accurate.
I can't call Sea Sun and A Wish of Life for "Danish metal".
I was talking about Mercyful Fate and you knew that...
And I was talking about the whole Danish Rock genre broadly understood.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 09:24
David_D wrote:
Cristi wrote:
David_D wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Then call it "Danish metal". it's more accurate.
I can't call Sea Sun and A Wish of Life for "Danish metal".
I was talking about Mercyful Fate and you knew that...
And I was talking about the whole Danish Rock genre broadly understood.
For someone obsessed with defining everything, you make no difference between rock and metal?!
Good job...
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 09:42
Certainly I am no metallurgist and it may be best to have a devoted topic on this, but I have considered Heavy Metal to be a form of rock, and an outgrowth/ development from hard rock. So it would not be weird for me to see that Heavy Metal album listed with some other bands' albums under a general rock label.
Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.
By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 09:47
Logan wrote:
Certainly I am no metallurgist and it may be best to have a devoted topic on this, but I have considered Heavy Metal to be a form of rock, and an outgrowth/ development from hard rock. So it would not be weird for me to see that Heavy Metal album listed with some other bands' albums under a general rock label.
Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.
By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.
nah, he's just cheeky.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 09:54
Cristi wrote:
Logan wrote:
Certainly I am no metallurgist and it may be best to have a devoted topic on this, but I have considered Heavy Metal to be a form of rock, and an outgrowth/ development from hard rock. So it would not be weird for me to see that Heavy Metal album listed with some other bands' albums under a general rock label.
Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.
By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.
nah, he's just cheeky.
I don't believe so in this case, but we do need a cheeky emoji at this site.
(‿|‿)
Now you got me wanting to discuss Wyatt's Rock Bottom, which is both rock AND bottom, could add some metal to it with a Steely Dan.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 10:01
Logan wrote:
Cristi wrote:
nah, he's just cheeky.
I don't believe so in this case, but we do need a cheeky emoji at this site.
(‿|‿)
Now you got me wanting to discuss Wyatt's Rock Bottom, which is both rock AND bottom, could add some metal to it with a Steely Dan.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 10:05
Cristi wrote:
Logan wrote:
Cristi wrote:
nah, he's just cheeky.
I don't believe so in this case, but we do need a cheeky emoji at this site.
(‿|‿)
Now you got me wanting to discuss Wyatt's Rock Bottom, which is both rock AND bottom, could add some metal to it with a Steely Dan.
A favourite image of mine.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 10:10
Logan wrote:
By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.
While I asked somebody once and not so long time ago, if Metal was mostly considered as a part of Rock genre or not, and the answer was that it of course was.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 10:16
David_D wrote:
Logan wrote:
By the way, I once had someone tell me that rock and metal are completely different, and I could not understand the reasoning (especially as it was not given), but that does not seem sensible.
While I asked somebody once and not so long time ago, if Metal was mostly considered as a part of Rock genre or not, and the answer was that it of course was.
In the last 3-4 decades or so, metal started to stand on his own, growing on its own, so much than even its subgenres got its own subgenres.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 10:17
Yes, a couple of very nice lists posted more here, but after all the disturbance, I think that I'd like to repost this post of mine, so it can get some more attention:
David_D wrote:
Even in the '80s, I was mostly into mainstream Rock and different kind of much Pop-influenced music, I also liked much and listened to other kinds of music. For instance the Danish Before's A Wish of Life on my list here, which I today find to be some of the very best Post-Punk ever, with influences like Joy Division, The Doors and the Greek proggers, PLJ Band.
Here's the title track from this album - powerful and very emotional stuff:
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 10:45
Logan wrote:
Metals come from ore, and ore can come from rock, and I think that makes sense both for music and geology.
Still, I consider Metal to be a part of Rock genre if broadly defined, and as far as I've seen it, it's rather common to do it.
Now you argue for the sake of arguing...
In its early days, metal was part of rock but it has evolved since then and is its own thing now.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 16:18
Whether the music of Melissa is Heavy metal, metal, a form of hard rock, all of those, riff-busting reggae, whatever...
This is good stuff...
The title track from "Melissa"
That track sounds like rock and metal (heavy metal) to these ears, but again I am no expert.
It's a Black Sabbath influenced band and I also have been told by some metal people that classic heavy metal is not true metal (they differentiated heavy metal from other metal music). I like plenty of Heavy Metal while not being much of a metal fan. I do like heavy music (heavier than metal, I might say).
Maybe a good debate for metal music archives. I had a debate there about classification in its early days on the topic of hard rock, heavy metal and metal. I don't see the level of separation that some propose between genres. and I also like to focus more on the music of an individual album or track rather than generalisations of genre about bands with various albums which has been a source of some differences in opinion.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 16:51
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Steel Pulse
My fave reggae band with Marley & Tosh
These guys rocked hard on stage - at least when I saw them a few times at the Carribean Festival on the Toronto Islands in the early 80's.
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Logan wrote:
But the reason for, I only listed '80s releases, is that it was almost only that kind I listened to.
that took the fire out of their guitar playing.
I'd say that in a generalization, even Fusion & Jazz sucked a bit during the 80's, as opposed to the brilliant and often fiery 70's.
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