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    Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:28

Hello everyone, I've just register here for some recommendations of Prog metal bands.

oh, Who am I? I'm justa 17-yearold nerd in Bangkok,Thailand (well i guess you guys know where my country is). A brief introduction to my lovely city, Bangkok is.. in one word, URBAN! it's not full of rice fields 'n garden with people riding elephants (as some foreigners think, haha) and we Thais do have considerable access to Internet, and also kinds of imported musics.

(for folks who'd like a detailed essay on Thailand maybe u can email me, just kidding lol)

ah, did that sound like bragging? honestly I didn't mean to. well, back to prog stuff,

Currently I know just ONE prog band (DT, ofcourse, and love it) and would like to know some more goodies in this category.

Well, I'm surely not [yet] hardcore fan of any kind of music. But I do like bands like

DT, Metallica, and uhh.. rammstein

I love technical style and deep feelings of DT, Powerful yet Elegant.

and I just noticed 20 minutes ago that there are lots more good prog bands mentioned here.

Oh and one more question, Where are you guys from? are there many prog fans in your city?

I ask you this because in thailand there are so FEW prog fans! reasons are that there are not many Thais who 're interested in English and most can barely use it, And even less Metal fans!

Well, Nice to meet you!!

 

Oh god, sorry for posting in the wrong forum, i should posted in 'Welcome newbies' eh?

i've a bad habit of skipping forum rules.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:39
Right now, everyone hates DT because DT's new album monopolized discussion for a long time.

Anyway, I recommend you get James LaBrie's Elements Of Persuasion album, it's a nice mix of DT and Metallica styles.

Also, anything by Symphony X, Shadow Gallery, or Enchant.  If you're feeling adventurous, try Opeth, Pain Of Salvation, Ayreon, The Mars Volta, or later King Crimson on for a try...

...but if you want to hear other music that's even more amazing than Dream Theater and its prog-metal ilk, and are ready to step into a different box completely, just ask, and I'm sure that many of us here would be glad to help you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:49
three words:

YES

RUSH

GENESIS

before you know it, these three words will be near and dear to your heart. my favorite prog bands!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:54

Start with the major prog bands:

YES, PINK FLOYD, GENESIS, KING CRIMSON

Look on the archives for the recomended albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:59
You guys don't wanna scare him off...    He says the only prog band he knows is DT...  why not show him other prog bands, and ease him into the older stuff?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 11:01
Polish band Riverside ... melodic metal .........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 11:08

the 'seminal' prog bands are generally considered something like this

  1. Genesis
  2. Yes
  3. ELP

after that try these

  1. Pink Floyd
  2. Van der Graaf Generator
  3. Jethro Tull
  4. King Crimson
  5. Gentle Giant
  6. Camel
  7. Renaissance

okay sorry, I'm not really into prog-metal (at all) but thats the cream of the prog crop.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:10

Ok...here are some specific albums I would get:

Genesis - Foxtrot; A Trick of the Tail; Selling England by the Pound

Yes - Close to the Edge

King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King

Pink Floyd - Meddle; Animals

Rush - A Farewell to Kings; Hemispheres

Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts; Godbluff; Still Life

Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear; Clutching at Straws

IQ - Tales from the Lush Attic; Seventh House; Dark Matter

Ok...that's enough for now.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:19
I don't think you people GET it.  Maybe felona, but not the rest of you.  I know you're trying to do him a favor, but you're likely going to turn him off from this if you do it in the wrong way.

He's like "I like Dream Theater, and Metallica, and other metal bands."  He's stressed his metal roots multiple times, and mentioned that DT is the only prog band he knows.  And you're all like "LOL try some Yes and Genesis!!!111!!1"  Yes and Genesis are excellent, I agree, but all in due time.  If this metalhead here listens to Yes, he's most likely gonna be like "...riiiiiight."  If he does some prog metal, explores *their* roots, he might find his way to Yes and have the experience to understand the context of it and enjoy it.  As is, you're all being a bit too assumptuous...  don't turn this guy off from prog.  There's plenty of bands in the Archives that could lead him in quite nicely, no need to suggest classic symphonic prog to "help him along" when he's plainly stated his only prog experience is through DT, and that he likes metal.  Sheesh, guys.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:30
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

I don't think you people GET it.  Maybe felona, but not the rest of you.  I know you're trying to do him a favor, but you're likely going to turn him off from this if you do it in the wrong way.

He's like "I like Dream Theater, and Metallica, and other metal bands."  He's stressed his metal roots multiple times, and mentioned that DT is the only prog band he knows.  And you're all like "LOL try some Yes and Genesis!!!111!!1"  Yes and Genesis are excellent, I agree, but all in due time.  If this metalhead here listens to Yes, he's most likely gonna be like "...riiiiiight."  If he does some prog metal, explores *their* roots, he might find his way to Yes and have the experience to understand the context of it and enjoy it.  As is, you're all being a bit too assumptuous...  don't turn this guy off from prog.  There's plenty of bands in the Archives that could lead him in quite nicely, no need to suggest classic symphonic prog to "help him along" when he's plainly stated his only prog experience is through DT, and that he likes metal.  Sheesh, guys.




That's why I tend to steer clear of threads like this unless the person asking for recommendations is interested in symph, jazzy prog or general weirdness. Prog metal isn't my forte.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:32
Well, in that case, I would try Symphony X - actually all of their albums are good, but particularly V.  Or try Fates Warning - I would start with A Pleasant Shade of Gray.  For some metal mixed with some great keyboard work try Erik Norlander - Music Machine.  Is that better?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:34
Oh, and I think Rush - A Farewell to Kings or Hemispheres fit in nicely with the prog metal genre.  You might also try 2112 or Caress of Steel as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 15:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 21:49

Here are some albums, You'd like:

Symphony X- The Odyssey ( Not too Neo-Classical, don't want to scare you off)

Enchant- too light for him right now.

Try Rush- A Farewell To Kings, then Hemispheres  Kind of a transition to Progressive Rock, but also keeping that Progresive Metal root

More albums:

Kamelot- The Black Halo

Pain Of Salvation- The Perfect Element (Perfect )

Fates Warning- A Pleasant Shade of Gray

and oh why not:

Queensryche- Operation: Mindcrime

Really good albums you must have:

Pain Of Salvation- BE

Ayreon- The Human Equation

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 23:17

Oh guys, Thanks alot for recommends.

But I don't mind whether your fav bands are good starts for a prog newbies or not, I'm happy for all the recommends you mentioned and would see how can i get my hands on those.

So, no need to argue !!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2005 at 00:18

Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Polish band Riverside ... melodic metal .........

They are AWESOME!!!!!Out of Myself blew me away.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2005 at 00:22
also a lesser known band from Sweden called Salva ...thier debut is quite quite good!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2005 at 20:16

Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

also a lesser known band from Sweden called Salva ...thier debut is quite quite good!

Yay! Props for Salva. Great band and very good music. Underrated here! Nice call Felona.

I also enjoy Pantomind. That is my recommend for you Saboteur! Shadow Gallery as well. Great prog metal bands!

Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2005 at 12:22

Symphony X

Tool

Opeth

Pain of Salvation

Fates Warning

Mago de Oz

Queensryche

The Mars Volta

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:42

 I think Man Overboard is right, ease him into it, he will discover his own brand.

 

Some Arena, shadow gallery and Pain of Salvation

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