a Noob Needs recommendations
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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
Forum Description: Make or seek recommendations and discuss specific prog albums
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Topic: a Noob Needs recommendations
Posted By: Saboteur
Subject: a Noob Needs recommendations
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:28
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Hello everyone, I've just register here for some recommendations of Prog metal bands. oh, Who am I? I'm justa 17-yearold nerd in Bangkok,Thailand (well i guess you guys know where my country is). A brief introduction to my lovely city, Bangkok is.. in one word, URBAN! it's not full of rice fields 'n garden with people riding elephants (as some foreigners think, haha) and we Thais do have considerable access to Internet, and also kinds of imported musics. (for folks who'd like a detailed essay on Thailand maybe u can email me, just kidding lol ah, did that sound like bragging? honestly I didn't mean to. well, back to prog stuff, Currently I know just ONE prog band (DT, ofcourse, and love it) and would like to know some more goodies in this category. Well, I'm surely not [yet] hardcore fan of any kind of music. But I do like bands like DT, Metallica, and uhh.. rammstein I love technical style and deep feelings of DT, Powerful yet Elegant. and I just noticed 20 minutes ago that there are lots more good prog bands mentioned here. Oh and one more question, Where are you guys from? are there many prog fans in your city? I ask you this because in thailand there are so FEW prog fans! reasons are that there are not many Thais who 're interested in English and most can barely use it, And even less Metal fans! Well, Nice to meet you!!
Oh god, sorry for posting in the wrong forum i've a bad habit of skipping forum rules.
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, i should posted in 'Welcome newbies' eh?
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:39
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Right now, everyone hates DT because DT's new album monopolized discussion for a long time. Anyway, I recommend you get James LaBrie's Elements Of Persuasion album, it's a nice mix of DT and Metallica styles. Also, anything by Symphony X, Shadow Gallery, or Enchant. If you're feeling adventurous, try Opeth, Pain Of Salvation, Ayreon, The Mars Volta, or later King Crimson on for a try... ...but if you want to hear other music that's even more amazing than Dream Theater and its prog-metal ilk, and are ready to step into a different box completely, just ask, and I'm sure that many of us here would be glad to help you. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:49
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three words: YES RUSH GENESIS before you know it, these three words will be near and dear to your heart. my favorite prog bands! ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:54
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Start with the major prog bands: YES, PINK FLOYD, GENESIS, KING CRIMSON Look on the archives for the recomended albums. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 10:59
You guys don't wanna scare him off... 
He says the only prog band he knows is DT... why not show him
other prog bands, and ease him into the older stuff?
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 11:01
Polish band Riverside ... melodic metal .........  ------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ...... The Church "After Everything Now This" |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 11:08
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the 'seminal' prog bands are generally considered something like this
after that try these
okay sorry, I'm not really into prog-metal (at all) but thats the cream of the prog crop. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:10
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Ok...here are some specific albums I would get: Genesis - Foxtrot; A Trick of the Tail; Selling England by the Pound Yes - Close to the Edge King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Pink Floyd - Meddle; Animals Rush - A Farewell to Kings; Hemispheres Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts; Godbluff; Still Life Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear; Clutching at Straws IQ - Tales from the Lush Attic; Seventh House; Dark Matter Ok...that's enough for now.
------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:19
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I don't think you people GET it. Maybe felona,
but not the rest of you. I know you're trying to do him a favor,
but you're likely going to turn him off from this if you do it in the
wrong way. He's like "I like Dream Theater, and Metallica, and other metal bands." He's stressed his metal roots multiple times, and mentioned that DT is the only prog band he knows. And you're all like "LOL try some Yes and Genesis!!!111!!1" Yes and Genesis are excellent, I agree, but all in due time. If this metalhead here listens to Yes, he's most likely gonna be like "...riiiiiight." If he does some prog metal, explores *their* roots, he might find his way to Yes and have the experience to understand the context of it and enjoy it. As is, you're all being a bit too assumptuous... don't turn this guy off from prog. There's plenty of bands in the Archives that could lead him in quite nicely, no need to suggest classic symphonic prog to "help him along" when he's plainly stated his only prog experience is through DT, and that he likes metal. Sheesh, guys. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:30
 That's why I tend to steer clear of threads like this unless the person asking for recommendations is interested in symph, jazzy prog or general weirdness. Prog metal isn't my forte. |
Man Overboard wrote:Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:32
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Well, in that case, I would try Symphony X - actually all of their albums are good, but particularly V. Or try Fates Warning - I would start with A Pleasant Shade of Gray. For some metal mixed with some great keyboard work try Erik Norlander - Music Machine. Is that better? ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:34
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Oh, and I think Rush - A Farewell to Kings or Hemispheres fit in nicely with the prog metal genre. You might also try 2112 or Caress of Steel as well. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 15:42
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Mr Bungle. If you don't like 'em, you're going to hell!
------------- And above all, is punk 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 21:49
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Here are some albums, You'd like: Symphony X- The Odyssey ( Not too Neo-Classical, don't want to scare you off) Enchant- too light for him right now. Try Rush- A Farewell To Kings, then Hemispheres More albums: Kamelot- The Black Halo Pain Of Salvation- The Perfect Element (Perfect Fates Warning- A Pleasant Shade of Gray and oh why not: Queensryche- Operation: Mindcrime Really good albums you must have: Pain Of Salvation- BE Ayreon- The Human Equation |
Posted By: Saboteur
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 23:17
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Oh guys, Thanks alot for recommends. But I don't mind whether your fav bands are good starts for a prog newbies or not, I'm happy for all the recommends you mentioned and would see how can i get my hands on those. So, no need to argue !! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 00:18
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They are AWESOME!!!!!Out of Myself blew me away. -------------  |
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 00:22
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also a lesser known band from Sweden called Salva ...thier debut is quite quite good! ------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ...... The Church "After Everything Now This" |
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 20:16
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Yay! Props for Salva. Great band and very good music. Underrated here! Nice call Felona. I also enjoy Pantomind. That is my recommend for you Saboteur! Shadow Gallery as well. Great prog metal bands! ------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 12:22
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Symphony X Tool Opeth Pain of Salvation Fates Warning Mago de Oz Queensryche The Mars Volta |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:42
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I think Man Overboard is right, ease him into it, he will discover his own brand.
Some Arena, shadow gallery and Pain of Salvation |
Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 03:20
Agreed, great stuff. And being of Polish heritage, they have a special place in my heart  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 03:34
and some Ayreon of course ... ------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ...... The Church "After Everything Now This" |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 07:05
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FELONA, DO YOU KNOW THAT THE MAN BEHIND AYREON, ARJAN LUCASSEN USE TO PLAY IN A BAND CALLED VENGEANCE, A PRETTY GOOD HARDROCK BAND. GREETINGS |
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 16:59
...no ...didn't know that ... but I'm not surprised as Arjen has done heaps of other stuff ------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ...... The Church "After Everything Now This" |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 18:17
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Might try Tiles as well. Dream Theater picked them to open for them on the European tour in 1999-2000. they have 4-5 CD's out there.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 23:08
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Threshold and Time Machine are probably the best prog metal bands that haven't already been mentioned. |
Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: July 01 2005 at 17:06
well, prog is a very deverse genre, theres a whole bunch of great, obscure stuff out there...since you are a prog metal fan, i recomend some rush,queensryche,opeth,yngwie malmsteen and king crimson albums like RED and STARLESS AND BIBLE BLACK...also check out primus and tool...though incubus and system of a down are not prog with a captital P they do have a lot of progressive elements and may catch your interest as well...you may like symphony x though i personaly dont like them at all...but whatever rocks your boat. |
Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:58
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If progressive metal is your thing, try THERION's "Theli" and "Vovin" - in
my opinion, the two most interesting albums in the genre. |
Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 17:27
| Start by downloading the rich supply of mp3's then decide which style you like. That's what I did. The only thing is you will need a lot of money and a substantial CD storage system. I can stop buying prog if I wanted to. Anytime. |
Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 04:26
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i thought the mp3s were free...please tell me im right. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 05:30
| Yet another similar thread |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 05:48
you're right but you'll need a lot of money to buy all the albums, because you like the samples so much! |