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Poll Question: What was the peak (or best) year for prog?
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5 [11.90%]
8 [19.05%]
16 [38.10%]
4 [9.52%]
2 [4.76%]
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Oh ok. Not sure how I missed Nursery Cryme then. I know a lot of people don't like the "thin" production on it but I've never really noticed that much (same with Going for the One which people complain about). 

Nah, Cryme is the first "proper" Genesis album in my book. As far as 1971, it is the first real explosion of prog, krautrock, progressive soul, progressive folk, experimental electric, fusion rock/jazz, and even rock bands with prog pretensions (ie. Zeppelin, The Who, Heep, Purple, Alice Cooper, Sabbath, etc.). 
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1975

Triumvirat-Spartacus
Mahavishnu Orchestra-Visions Of The Emerald Beyond
Passport-Cross Collateral
PFM-Chocolate Kings
Gentle Giant-Freehand
Nektar-Recycled
Tangerine Dream-Rubycon
Rush-Fly By Night
Headstone-Headstone
Solution-Cordon Blue
Soft Machine-Bundles
Libra-Libra
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2024 at 23:19
I tend to think 1974 but then there is no one year that has my favourite release by a major band/artist (1977 should be in the poll as it's obviously a stronger year than 1976 imo)

1971
VDGG - Pawn Hearts
Jethro Tull - Acqualung
Focus - Moving Waves

1972
PFM - Per Un Amico
Genesis - Foxtrot
Yes - Close To The Edge
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Electric Light Orchestra - ELO 2
Banco - Darwin!

1973
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
Curved Air - Aircut
Rick Wakeman - Six Wives Of Henry VIII
Le Orme - Felona E Sorona

1974
King Crimson - Red
Triumvirat - Illusions On A Double Dimple
Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory
Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
Kayak - s/t
Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Refugee - Refugee
Kansas - s/t
Kraftwerk - Autobahn

1975
Camel - The Snow Goose
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn
Vangelis - Heaven and Hell
Steve Hackett - Voyage Of THe Acolyte
Harmonium - So On Avait Besoin D'une Cinquieme Saison
Edgar Froese - Epsilon in Malaysian Pale
Birds - Trace
Cherry Five - s/t

1976
Eloy - Dawn
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
Manfred Mann's Earthband - The Roaring Silence
Be Bop Deluxe - Sunburst Finish

1977
Pink Floyd - Animals
Hawkwind - Quark, Strangeness and Charm
Rush - A Farewell To Arms
Loccanda Delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu
Colosseum II - Electric Savage
Peter Gabriel - Car










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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2024 at 00:41
1975 just over 1971, 1972 and 1973.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote essexboyinwales Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2024 at 02:30
Originally posted by Criswell Criswell wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1973 for me. The year of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells, Renaissance' Ashes Are Burning and Genesis' Selling England by the Pound, to name just three. Smile


Concur with 1973...add Brain Salad Surgery, Tales, 6 Wives, & Future Days (CAN)...


And DSOTM….
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Oh ok. Not sure how I missed Nursery Cryme then. I know a lot of people don't like the "thin" production on it but I've never really noticed that much (same with Going for the One which people complain about). 


Nah, Cryme is the first "proper" Genesis album in my book. As far as 1971, it is the first real explosion of prog, krautrock, progressive soul, progressive folk, experimental electric, fusion rock/jazz, and even rock bands with prog pretensions (ie. Zeppelin, The Who, Heep, Purple, Alice Cooper, Sabbath, etc.). 
For me that year is 1970. Although would have ended up voting for 1971 I think it's weird that it's not one of the options in the poll. Most classic progbands released a much stronger album in 1970 than they did in 1976.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

1959 is also generally considered the best year for Gibson Les Paul. ;P

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If looking at RYM's chart for 150 highest rated Progressive Rock albums for the years 1971-76 (with popularity weighting on 4), 
so many albums are on it from each year:

                       1971 - 27
                       1972 - 25
                       1973 - 29
                       1974 - 29
                       1975 - 25
                       1976 - 15

( https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1971-1976/g:progressive%2drock/pop:4/ )

On that basis, I'd say, it's hardly possible to point at any year(s) in the period 1971-75 as the best one(s).


Edited by David_D - September 13 2024 at 04:46
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Ten good reasons why 1973 was the best year for prog. Smile

5 stars 1973: Fruupp - Future Legends - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG2ZW6QrhcM
5 stars 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0
5 stars 1973: Spirogyra - Bells, Boots & Shambles - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9YrdTGfv1Q
5 stars 1973: Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J00015lLDM
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mormegil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2024 at 05:31
Toss up between '72 and '73 - can't vote.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2024 at 05:48
1972 for me, though the whole era was fantasic.
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Hi,

I have no idea how to make a choice here. I listen to music for the work and its color, and while it all came alive for me in 1971/1972, I never thought that a specific year was more important than another ... it's weird ... for me all music in timeless ... not set in stone to one year or time period.

We don't look at Beethoven and say that 1813 was his greatest year! I simply don't understand how we continue to think and look at "progressive music" as just another song ... most of it in those early days was NOT JUST A SONG! And that would have been the main reason why folks in the independent FM Radio in America played them! To get away from the song mentality of the 2 minute Light My Fire!


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Out of my alltime favorite albums, I took only those that were made in the 70s, and counted how many records from each year of that decade there were on my list. And it turns out that 1976 is the winner (9 albums), while 1978 is second place (8 albums). :)


*Though, keep in mind that my list consists of prog music from all over the world, and not just the 1st World Commonwealth countries.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:


We don't look at Beethoven and say that 1813 was his greatest year!
No probably not, but "we" can speak of peak-Romanicism. Some actually do (not me personally).

Selecting a (for me, favorite not best) year in music is a bit silly or pointless. I know. But I have a brain that occasionally works a little like that, and there's nothing I can do to prevent it. I know I've looked through my collection of jazz albums too and thought to myself "Goodness, to think that all of these masterworks were released in 1964! Surely my favorite year in jazz".
-But it doesn't really mean anything. I didn't buy any of them because of the year of it's release. It's just something I've noticed. No different than noticing I have a lot of Jazz albums recorded at Van Gelder Studio.

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I also think 1973.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Out of my alltime favorite albums, I took only those that were made in the 70s, and counted how many records from each year of that decade there were on my list. And it turns out that 1976 is the winner (9 albums), while 1978 is second place (8 albums). :)


*Though, keep in mind that my list consists of prog music from all over the world, and not just the 1st World Commonwealth countries.

So no albums in 1971?! Confused
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2019 for me.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Out of my alltime favorite albums, I took only those that were made in the 70s, and counted how many records from each year of that decade there were on my list. And it turns out that 1976 is the winner (9 albums), while 1978 is second place (8 albums). :)


*Though, keep in mind that my list consists of prog music from all over the world, and not just the 1st World Commonwealth countries.


So no albums in 1971?! Confused
Strange, I know. I mean, I was almost gonna add Pictures at an Exhibition by ELP, but then I realized that I'm not really that excited about that record to put it on my "favorites" list.

Edited by Hrychu - September 13 2024 at 09:28
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Oh ok. Not sure how I missed Nursery Cryme then. I know a lot of people don't like the "thin" production on it but I've never really noticed that much (same with Going for the One which people complain about). 


Nah, Cryme is the first "proper" Genesis album in my book. As far as 1971, it is the first real explosion of prog, krautrock, progressive soul, progressive folk, experimental electric, fusion rock/jazz, and even rock bands with prog pretensions (ie. Zeppelin, The Who, Heep, Purple, Alice Cooper, Sabbath, etc.). 
For me that year is 1970. Although would have ended up voting for 1971 I think it's weird that it's not one of the options in the poll. Most classic progbands released a much stronger album in 1970 than they did in 1976.


1970 is awesome. Magma's debut, Soft Machine's Third, VdGG's The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each, OtherAmon Düül II's Yeti, Linda Perhacs' Parallelograms, Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother, Supersister's Present From Nancy, Miles Davis' Bitches Brew, Gentle Giant's s/t, Miroslav Vitous' Infinite Dance, Pentangle's Cruel Sister etc.

I will go with 1971 for VdGG's Pawn Hearts, Serge Gainsbourg's Histoire de Melody Nelson, Can's Tago Mago, Comus' First Utterance, Igor Wakhévitch's Docteur Faust, Gentle Giant's Acquiring the Taste, Ash Ra Tempel, Bjorn J:son Lindh's Från storstad till grodspad, Spirogyra's St. Radigunds, Popol Vuh's In den Gärten Pharaos, A.R. & Machines's Die Grüne Reise, Earth & Fire's Song of the Marching Children, Egg's The Polite Force, Roy Harper's Stormcock etc.

Every Prog year has lots of awesome and relevant releases in my collection, but some have more than others. I approach these topics subjectively based on what I know, remember, and even my mood. While I think it would be fair to say that Prog has had its classic peak years, my tastes cover a spectrum of music. For my collection, I don't care much if it's even considered Prog. I like lots of different kinds of music from lots of years. One can think of these sorts of things as just trying to think through a way to come to a year. I would not pooh-pooh that. It can be creative. And I think it's good to be challenged to think out of ones own boxes, and into others, and try to come up with an answer using some methodology. We are challenging each other every time we come up with such topics, and to me that is fun. Wish more did topics, more support of each other's topics, that there was a wider variety of topics, and a wider appreciation of kinds of topics and more discussion in polls. But no complaints, the forum is not as lively as it once was.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

 
So no albums in 1971?! Confused
Strange, I know. I mean, I was almost gonna add Pictures at an Exhibition by ELP, but then I realized that I'm not really that excited about that record to put it on my "favorites" list.

plenty too choose from Smile

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