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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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LDF of course, and that recent reissue sounds really good



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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Locanda Delle Fate for sure although I like that slightly funky PFM album more than the previous one (Chocolate Kings)
Chocolate Kings works wonders for me, my favourite PFM album
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Same. The other album in the list I have been most into is Stormy Six's L'Apprendista.
  
A band (and album) with plenty of musical qualities that I do appreciate, but I can never get past the "singing". That unappealing vocal timbre and flat delivery ruins everything for me.

I too find the vocal section objectionable. Certainly the singers Franco Fabbri and Umberto Fiori are not particularly gifted, but perhaps they often try to sing with the technique of estrangement taken from Brecht's theatre, or with the expressionist technique used by certain poets in their readings.

We should consider that Umberto Fiori is a very refined writer and poet, he is more of a scholar than a singer. Consider that in Italy, the best literary critics speak of his poems. His passage in the Stormy Six represents only a small part of his life.

Franco Fabbri, on the other hand, is a great music expert, a true musicologist, who is more of a guitarist than a vocalist.
I respect all of that. I am also fully aware taht I'm missing out of a (for the band) essential dimension, as I do not understand the words. Knowing myself I wouldn't have enjoyed the music much more had I actually understood the words. I mean Bob Dylan is so clever with words he even won the Nobel price, but very rarely do I sit down and listen to his songs.

-In regards to Stormy Six' fellow italians Area it's sort of the opposite. I'm perfectly happy - glad even - that I don't understand the lyrics. I can simply enjoy it as great music and listen to Demetrio Stratos incredible voice like any other instrument. In 9 out of 10 times lyrics is just words that feel like ornaments or added spice on top of what I came for: the music, the sound, the themes... So the delivery has to appeal to me, moreso than the meaning behind the words uttered.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Same. The other album in the list I have been most into is Stormy Six's L'Apprendista.
  
A band (and album) with plenty of musical qualities that I do appreciate, but I can never get past the "singing". That unappealing vocal timbre and flat delivery ruins everything for me.

I too find the vocal section objectionable. Certainly the singers Franco Fabbri and Umberto Fiori are not particularly gifted, but perhaps they often try to sing with the technique of estrangement taken from Brecht's theatre, or with the expressionist technique used by certain poets in their readings.

We should consider that Umberto Fiori is a very refined writer and poet, he is more of a scholar than a singer. Consider that in Italy, the best literary critics speak of his poems. His passage in the Stormy Six represents only a small part of his life.

Franco Fabbri, on the other hand, is a great music expert, a true musicologist, who is more of a guitarist than a vocalist.
I respect all of that. I am also fully aware taht I'm missing out of a (for the band) essential dimension, as I do not understand the words. Knowing myself I wouldn't have enjoyed the music much more had I actually understood the words. I mean Bob Dylan is so clever with words he even won the Nobel price, but very rarely do I sit down and listen to his songs.

-In regards to Stormy Six' fellow italians Area it's sort of the opposite. I'm perfectly happy - glad even - that I don't understand the lyrics. I can simply enjoy it as great music and listen to Demetrio Stratos incredible voice like any other instrument. In 9 out of 10 times lyrics is just words that feel like ornaments or added spice on top of what I came for: the music, the sound, the themes... So the delivery has to appeal to me, moreso than the meaning behind the words uttered.

I agree. And actually I believe that Area, after their debut album, didnt use Stratos' voice to its best advantage. Compositionally, in fact, many of their tracks are instrumental and only in some did the voice become an integral part with the music. I say this while also considering the second, third and fourth albums beautiful.
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Love le orme.
And Banco
Pfm are a bit crap lol
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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