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Topic: Prog Italia 1977
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Prog Italia 1977
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 03:38

4 stars 1977: Antonius Rex - Zora -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOtrFPGwa8Y" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOtrFPGwa8Y
3 stars 1977: Angelo Branduardi - La Pulce d'Acqua -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLV7wEaSFw4t0HKvIuE3bI2LGux5rvqeE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLV7wEaSFw4t0HKvIuE3bI2LGux5rvqeE
3 stars 1977: Canzoniere del Lazio - Miradas -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48B1Q346L-s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48B1Q346L-s
3 stars 1977: Luciano Cilio - Dialoghi del Presente -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae3F0wcot-M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae3F0wcot-M
3 stars 1977: Roberto Colombo - Botte da Orbi -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhpQYAIR7wM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhpQYAIR7wM
3 stars 1977: Robert Genco - Beyond the Life -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq0NvHXVd_AIB7qaVm7XgkfPhYjrfAER" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq0NvHXVd_AIB7qaVm7XgkfPhYjrfAER
3 stars 1977: Goblin - Suspiria (soundtrack) -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGsckJnx0mE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGsckJnx0mE
3 stars 1977: Gramigna - Gran Disordine Sotto il Cielo -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4A9OjgWXz1bFkynwVg96a9L9duB9rCD" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4A9OjgWXz1bFkynwVg96a9L9duB9rCD
4 stars 1977: Le Orme - Storia O Leggenda -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIN9DHtOfK-ll8PmgLxeQrDwxMMD-8n7" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIN9DHtOfK-ll8PmgLxeQrDwxMMD-8n7
3 stars 1977: Franco Leprino - Integrati...Disintegrati -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZztNxoz2Z8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZztNxoz2Z8
3 stars 1977: Libra - Schock (soundtrack) -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK1SXoD6gZM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK1SXoD6gZM
4 stars 1977: Locanda Delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mRquLg9xeV5jbMjN90H86ADdLipHxeFCY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mRquLg9xeV5jbMjN90H86ADdLipHxeFCY
3 stars 1977: Napoli Centrale - Qualcosa ca nu Nmore -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcfa5_RKbFU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcfa5_RKbFU
4 stars 1977: Leo Nero - Vero -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFT40aNq208" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFT40aNq208
3 stars 1977: Nova - Wings of Love -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYLtU51seY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYLtU51seY
3 stars 1977: Mauro Pelosi - Mauro Pelosi -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mOZmeEJ2F3mu9S4n9dHBBCIDsh0WKfRY4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mOZmeEJ2F3mu9S4n9dHBBCIDsh0WKfRY4
4 stars 1977: Perigeo - Fata Morgana -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMdAKHdFUZlb6Qa1dteunGLipWeIa12t-" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMdAKHdFUZlb6Qa1dteunGLipWeIa12t-
3 stars 1977: Premiata Forneria Marconi - Jet Lag -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kuA1Kb4_W_tNDLB7x4tDNW529KHQTe8Qo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kuA1Kb4_W_tNDLB7x4tDNW529KHQTe8Qo
5 stars 1977: Quasar Lux Symphoniae - The Dead Dream -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF5bPSfx36hX2HmN_ALNuAVKggF-mFkhr" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF5bPSfx36hX2HmN_ALNuAVKggF-mFkhr
4 stars 1977: Sensations' Fix - Vision's Fugitives -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkUZk3t0UyqBDQe2yYWbpNDqKqG6UOFDI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkUZk3t0UyqBDQe2yYWbpNDqKqG6UOFDI
4 stars 1977: Sensations' Fix - Boxes Paradise -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep2Wz8IISoM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep2Wz8IISoM
2 stars 1977: Stormy Six - L'Apprendista -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lYeZxdnmbn7X6qg9CCBevkek1JCnGqIks" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lYeZxdnmbn7X6qg9CCBevkek1JCnGqIks
3 stars 1977: Stefano Testa - Una Vita Una Balena Bianca e Altre Cose -   http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHGgF0Uzun88yU23qOQvK5ykVzMiM6NVo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHGgF0Uzun88yU23qOQvK5ykVzMiM6NVo
3 stars 1977: Venegoni & Co. - Rumore Rosso -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1oYTObtndM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1oYTObtndM
3 stars 1977: Riccardo Zappa - Celestion -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCor-oOazGk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCor-oOazGk




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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 04:32
Locanda Delle Fate. The planets grow wide, the soapstone is an ice cream topping.

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this car smells like cartilage
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 04:50
Two soundtracks among my three favorites:
 
Franco Leprino - Integrati...Disintegrati
Libra - Schock
Goblin - Suspiria

Btw: Perigeo - Fata Morgana is the same album (repackaged with a new title) as Non è poi così lontano from 1976.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 04:56
definitely the end of an era, as that ye r's best albums are not worthy of more than a Gnosis 10 and there are only three of them. Even Perigeo's Morgana is not worthy of the band's previous albums.

10           Canzoniere Del Lazio          Miradas                               

10           Stormy Six            L'Apprendista     

10           Locanda delle Fate             Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu




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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 05:00
1. Quasar Lux Symphoniae - The Dead Dream
2. Locanda Delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu
3. Antonius Rex - Zora 
4. Sensations' Fix - Vision's Fugitives
5. Sensations' Fix - Boxes Paradise
6. Perigeo - Fata Morgana


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 05:55
Goblin, Le Orme, PFM, Mauro Pelosi.


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 07:28
PFM Jet Lag-love that record so much!


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 08:39
Premiata Forneria Marconi - Jet Lag
Le Orme - Storia O Leggenda
Quasar Lux Symphoniae - The Dead Dream
Goblin - Suspiria (Soundtrack) 





Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 09:13
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Two soundtracks among my three favorites:
 
Franco Leprino - Integrati...Disintegrati
Libra - Schock
Goblin - Suspiria
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Same. The other album in the list I have been most into is Stormy Six's L'Apprendista.  Years ago we had a topic on an album that we wish we could give six stars out of five to, and I went with Franco Leprino's Integrati ... Disintegrati.  It really resonated with me.  I actually realise that crying and cooing babies tends to act like bonus points for music as well as other found sounds for ambience.  Such good memories of sleepless nights perhaps when my kids were at their most infantile.  It's a reason why I like various musique concrète, Pink Floyd, Swans, various electro-acoustic music I know uses this....


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 09:36
Goblin – Suspiria
Libra – Schock
PFM – Jet Lag

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 09:38
Locanda Delle Fate Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più album cover


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 09:48
^ I'd buy that album just for the fabulous album cover artwork alone. Smile


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 09:55

Locanda Delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu, and I love the coverart as well, even not the inside of the gatefold cover the way it looks on  LPs.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 10:30
Locanda Delle Fate for sure although I like that slightly funky PFM album more than the previous one (Chocolate Kings)


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 09 2024 at 18:06
There's six on here I'd highly recommend.
Those two soundtracks by Goblin and Libre are fantastic and I prefer Libre.
I'm not surprised to see Locanda Delle Fate leading this poll.
For me it's between Canzoniere Del Lazio, Franco Leprino and Luciano Cilio. I went with Luciano today.


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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: July 10 2024 at 08:52
Jet Lag of Premiata Forneria Marconi followed closely by Storia O Leggenda of Le Orme.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 14 2024 at 10:12
Branduardi because that album has a special meaning for me, but it's not the best in the list


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 15 2024 at 19:10
Unfortunately I have listened to half of these records, however I give my vote to Stormy Six, who are one of my favourite Italian bands.

In second place I would put Lorenzo Cilio, whom I met through Lewian.

And in third place Locanda delle Fate.

Napoli centrale (which I struggle to listen to, as a Northern Italian) and Perigeo are also very good.

I should re-listen to Franco Leprin carefully.

Le Orme and PFM's albums from 1977 aren't very good.

Edit: La pulce d'acqua is perhaps the best album by Branduardi.




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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 16 2024 at 01:39
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Same. The other album in the list I have been most into is Stormy Six's L'Apprendista.
  
A band (and album) with plenty of musical qualities that I do appreciate, but I can never get past the "singing". That unappealing vocal timbre and flat delivery ruins everything for me.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 16 2024 at 08:07
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Same. The other album in the list I have been most into is Stormy Six's L'Apprendista.
  
A band (and album) with plenty of musical qualities that I do appreciate, but I can never get past the "singing". That unappealing vocal timbre and flat delivery ruins everything for me.

I too find the vocal section objectionable. Certainly the singers Franco Fabbri and Umberto Fiori are not particularly gifted, but perhaps they often try to sing with the technique of estrangement taken from Brecht's theatre, or with the expressionist technique used by certain poets in their readings.

We should consider that Umberto Fiori is a very refined writer and poet, he is more of a scholar than a singer. Consider that in Italy, the best literary critics speak of his poems. His passage in the Stormy Six represents only a small part of his life.

Franco Fabbri, on the other hand, is a great music expert, a true musicologist, who is more of a guitarist than a vocalist.



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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 16 2024 at 08:22
LDF of course, https://instagram.com/progjestervinyl/p/BaQyx8_AoKK/" rel="nofollow - and that recent reissue sounds really good



Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 16 2024 at 08:37
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Locanda Delle Fate for sure although I like that slightly funky PFM album more than the previous one (Chocolate Kings)
Chocolate Kings works wonders for me, my favourite PFM album


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 16 2024 at 09:39
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Same. The other album in the list I have been most into is Stormy Six's L'Apprendista.
  
A band (and album) with plenty of musical qualities that I do appreciate, but I can never get past the "singing". That unappealing vocal timbre and flat delivery ruins everything for me.

I too find the vocal section objectionable. Certainly the singers Franco Fabbri and Umberto Fiori are not particularly gifted, but perhaps they often try to sing with the technique of estrangement taken from Brecht's theatre, or with the expressionist technique used by certain poets in their readings.

We should consider that Umberto Fiori is a very refined writer and poet, he is more of a scholar than a singer. Consider that in Italy, the best literary critics speak of his poems. His passage in the Stormy Six represents only a small part of his life.

Franco Fabbri, on the other hand, is a great music expert, a true musicologist, who is more of a guitarist than a vocalist.
I respect all of that. I am also fully aware taht I'm missing out of a (for the band) essential dimension, as I do not understand the words. Knowing myself I wouldn't have enjoyed the music much more had I actually understood the words. I mean Bob Dylan is so clever with words he even won the Nobel price, but very rarely do I sit down and listen to his songs.

-In regards to Stormy Six' fellow italians Area it's sort of the opposite. I'm perfectly happy - glad even - that I don't understand the lyrics. I can simply enjoy it as great music and listen to Demetrio Stratos incredible voice like any other instrument. In 9 out of 10 times lyrics is just words that feel like ornaments or added spice on top of what I came for: the music, the sound, the themes... So the delivery has to appeal to me, moreso than the meaning behind the words uttered.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 17 2024 at 04:14
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Same. The other album in the list I have been most into is Stormy Six's L'Apprendista.
  
A band (and album) with plenty of musical qualities that I do appreciate, but I can never get past the "singing". That unappealing vocal timbre and flat delivery ruins everything for me.

I too find the vocal section objectionable. Certainly the singers Franco Fabbri and Umberto Fiori are not particularly gifted, but perhaps they often try to sing with the technique of estrangement taken from Brecht's theatre, or with the expressionist technique used by certain poets in their readings.

We should consider that Umberto Fiori is a very refined writer and poet, he is more of a scholar than a singer. Consider that in Italy, the best literary critics speak of his poems. His passage in the Stormy Six represents only a small part of his life.

Franco Fabbri, on the other hand, is a great music expert, a true musicologist, who is more of a guitarist than a vocalist.
I respect all of that. I am also fully aware taht I'm missing out of a (for the band) essential dimension, as I do not understand the words. Knowing myself I wouldn't have enjoyed the music much more had I actually understood the words. I mean Bob Dylan is so clever with words he even won the Nobel price, but very rarely do I sit down and listen to his songs.

-In regards to Stormy Six' fellow italians Area it's sort of the opposite. I'm perfectly happy - glad even - that I don't understand the lyrics. I can simply enjoy it as great music and listen to Demetrio Stratos incredible voice like any other instrument. In 9 out of 10 times lyrics is just words that feel like ornaments or added spice on top of what I came for: the music, the sound, the themes... So the delivery has to appeal to me, moreso than the meaning behind the words uttered.

I agree. And actually I believe that Area, after their debut album, didnt use Stratos' voice to its best advantage. Compositionally, in fact, many of their tracks are instrumental and only in some did the voice become an integral part with the music. I say this while also considering the second, third and fourth albums beautiful.


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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: July 19 2024 at 20:35
Love le orme.
And Banco
Pfm are a bit crap lol

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