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Tarkus.
That was a revelation to me. This is even possible? For a while I thought all other bands were pants though. Nothing compared to this. Eventually I got to prog in general but it took a few years for the Tarkus effect to wear off. Most 70's prog was always a little wimpy compared to ELP!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Tarkus.
That was a revelation to me. This is even possible? For a while I thought all other bands were pants though. Nothing compared to this. Eventually I got to prog in general but it took a few years for the Tarkus effect to wear off. Most 70's prog was always a little wimpy compared to ELP!

Hi,

I really miss, what I call, the "artistic" side of the music ... when all it means these days to be progressive is to have "lyrics" tell us what the whole thing is about ... not realizing that the music, for hundreds of years, has always spoken far more than many words ... and that is not to say that some words are not special, but within the past 20 years, not a whole lot has really shown itself to be absolutely  massively well composed material ... and all we have to do is hear Rachel Flowers do TARKUS in its entirety on the piano alone ... to realize what an incredible piece of music it is ... and not many pieces stand out like it.

I always reference this with my days at UCSB ... 40 years ago ... no professor would ever have looked at that and thought it was excellent, and Keith had to "translate it" for his mates, and ended up with an incredible piece of music ... only to find many years later ... what it really was ... but that "style" was how things got noticed in those days ... and gracious goodness ... it doesn't really get a whole lot better than that. 

I always thought TFTO and Tarkus were 2 of the greatest things in my collection, and often I say ... my life!
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About three years ago, I listened to Focus III. For several months, I had been leaning towards listening to more complex music, but I had never listened to progressive rock. I didn't know what kind of music it was, but I really liked the album. When I looked up information about the band on the internet, I immediately recognized the brilliant Hocus Pocus (which up to that point I had found horrible). After that, I listened to Hamburger Concerto, which blew my mind after a couple of listens. So, we could say that Hamburger Concerto is the first prog album I listened to (I don't consider Focus III to be progressive rock).
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Meddle by Pink Floyd - first heard it back in 1972 and it was my gateway into the Floyd (in particular), and into prog rock (in general).

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Yes- Fragile "I sat upon the grass of my babysitter's backyard and Roundabout jumped out the speakers of my teenage sitter's radio.  I was hypnotized. 

Dark Side of the Moon

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I'd always loved Tull, but it was finding Gentle Giant's Octopus in my dad's record collection that drove me down this path - I had no idea it was even a prog album when I first put it on!
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For me, it was In the Court of the Crimson King. In 1969, my older brother bought it and played it for me. I was 12 years old. We didn't know what prog was, and it was probably not even called prog back then. We just liked the music and we thought the cover was pretty amazing.

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Dire Straits - Love Over Gold
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Dire Straits - Love Over Gold

Interesting pick. I wonder how it got you to more technical prog.
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Grumpyprogfan hits on this idea...I think the "real" answer for me would be Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon. My dad got a copy on CD as part of his Columbia House "Bonus" CDs when I was like 10 years old and I used to listen to it on the family stereo all the time...but I didn't know it was prog, really.

The band that turned me on to "Prog" proper was Änglagård. I saw them at NEARfest in 2003 and nearly fell over myself running to their merch booth after their performance. Bought a copy of "Hybris" immediately and fell all the way down the rabbit hole.
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I heard Dark Side Of The Moon back in 1977 for the first time and wondered what the fuss was all about. Generally prog was not for me at the age if it was that dull. Conversely I loved the Wall but nowadays those 2 albums have switched places in my personal affections!
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A Rush album. I first heard Caress of Steel, then Hemispheres when my mate convinced me to listen to them.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My prog rock starter kit - the first dozen prog albums I ever bought.

5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1976: Camel - Moonmadness - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyGHrNV07De1VA_TDOmy8b8V9hdj8yxS8</span>
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1975: Hayward & Lodge - Blue Jays - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?</span>list=OLAK5uy_l1Hr46rQ8oA1IGGodOHI0AFZxJefwJ-eA
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1967: The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kH3L9CRYvGAW2D1bj_2vx0JYvSpe74Wvw</span>
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0</span>
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1975: Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNi-zZF6wI</span>
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1972: Renaissance - Prologue - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nsKGwkJQV8nk_f5Xi353Il9e1A-tspJHg</span>
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1973: Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLlzvwRGj185pGq9yYhveAzan1m0qWHbQ</span>
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1974: Renaissance - Turn of the Cards - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lbUiF3mgChPZsCVm33AO0_o3Rpc1qH6fs</span>
4 stars 1974: Tangerine Dream - Ricochet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM1Wc6ha_ic
4 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1975: Tangerine Dream - Rubycon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd6XL_IOS3I</span>
5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1976: Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3hueHdzYSI</span>
4 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1974: Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HVDIPmbCnE</span>


Oh!! A lot of your starter pack is similar to mine! Not albums but definitely bands. Camel’s Mirage along side Moonmadness.

And I still love Force Majeure by Tangerine Dream.


Anglagard’s Hybris and Pictures by Island are two other ones. Also Turn of the Cards. I feel, now, that Scheherazade and Other Stories is my favorite of theirs, even though it’s got some infectious songs that do not leave my head if I even think of them.
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Originally posted by ThyroidGlands ThyroidGlands wrote:

About three years ago, I listened to Focus III. For several months, I had been leaning towards listening to more complex music, but I had never listened to progressive rock. I didn't know what kind of music it was, but I really liked the album. When I looked up information about the band on the internet, I immediately recognized the brilliant Hocus Pocus (which up to that point I had found horrible). After that, I listened to Hamburger Concerto, which blew my mind after a couple of listens. So, we could say that Hamburger Concerto is the first prog album I listened to (I don't consider Focus III to be progressive rock).

So what do you consider Focus 3 to be then? 
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Originally posted by Neon_meate Neon_meate wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My prog rock starter kit - the first dozen prog albums I ever bought.



Oh!! A lot of your starter pack is similar to mine! Not albums but definitely bands. Camel’s Mirage along side Moonmadness.

And I still love Force Majeure by Tangerine Dream.


Force Majeure was the fourth Tangerine Dream album I ever bought, after Stratosfear, Ricochet & Rubycon. From Tangerine Dream, that led me on to the music of Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Synergy and Tomita..... You say Tomita, I say Tomato. Let's call the whole thing off. Tongue


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Back in dinosaur time we listened to Zappa, Rush, Floyd, Kansas, Tull and never knew it was prog. .


So true !
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My first answer would be Tull's Stand Up, but I was only 6 when I first heard it

Soooo, I'd say that Harmonium's debut and Crime Of The Century (my first two albums bought with my own money in 74) were it.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by ThyroidGlands ThyroidGlands wrote:

About three years ago, I listened to Focus III. For several months, I had been leaning towards listening to more complex music, but I had never listened to progressive rock. I didn't know what kind of music it was, but I really liked the album. When I looked up information about the band on the internet, I immediately recognized the brilliant Hocus Pocus (which up to that point I had found horrible). After that, I listened to Hamburger Concerto, which blew my mind after a couple of listens. So, we could say that Hamburger Concerto is the first prog album I listened to (I don't consider Focus III to be progressive rock).

So what do you consider Focus 3 to be then? 

I watched an interview with Van Leer recently and he said he hated the term 'progressive rock' and still does. He considers Focus an 'instrumental band'. Confused Anyhow Focus 3 is more fusion based so I agree with the view that it's not really 'prog' as such. Hamburger Concerto however clearly is prog despite what Van Leer may assert. IMO
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Originally posted by ThyroidGlands ThyroidGlands wrote:

About three years ago, I listened to Focus III. For several months, I had been leaning towards listening to more complex music, but I had never listened to progressive rock. I didn't know what kind of music it was, but I really liked the album. When I looked up information about the band on the internet, I immediately recognized the brilliant Hocus Pocus (which up to that point I had found horrible). After that, I listened to Hamburger Concerto, which blew my mind after a couple of listens. So, we could say that Hamburger Concerto is the first prog album I listened to (I don't consider Focus III to be progressive rock).

Hi,

ERUPTION is the treat in that album ... a really special piece of  music. 

And yes, HAMBURGER CONCERTO is also a very nice treat. As is other stuff in that album ...
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

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I watched an interview with Van Leer recently and he said he hated the term 'progressive rock' and still does. He considers Focus an 'instrumental band'. Confused Anyhow Focus 3 is more fusion based so I agree with the view that it's not really 'prog' as such. Hamburger Concerto however clearly is prog despite what Van Leer may assert. IMO

Hi,

He's not the only one ... Robert Fripp has stated that KC is not progressive.

But, I think the issue here, is that we're talking about folks that know music very well, and are truly educated in terms of its history and a lot of music. And remember that Van Leer had several solo albums (the Introspection Series) that were all about classical music in the flute. And that kinda pretty much states to my ear that all music is just a natural "progression" based on its history and how the playing of it evolved, from the quartets and small gigs on the courts to an organ at a church, to eventual huge orchestras some 450 years later. That is a "progression" and the composing side adjusted to what was available, which is AKIN to the new electric instruments after WW2, and eventually Rock Music, and Jazz Music. 

Sadly, for commercial purposes, Focus likely will not be found in many places, other than "progressive" websites ... and one song in the "classic radio" which the band will never get paid for! (per article just this week on USA TODAY ... written by David Byrne!)
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