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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2024 at 01:29
^Well up to 1967 you would have to make "plain" Jazz polls. Simple as that. That would be correct and make sense. Why would that be a problem?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2024 at 01:36
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^Well up to 1967 you would have to make "plain" Jazz polls. Simple as that. That would be correct and make sense. Why would that be a problem?
That's no problem at all. Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll label the following jazz polls from 1960 to 1966 as simply "Classic US Jazz" and post them in the General Music forum, before switching the poll titles to "Classic US Jazz Fusion" from 1967 onwards, so as not to cause any further con-Fusion. Thumbs Up


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Rest assured that when we finally reach the 1970's, ALL of the poll albums will be Jazz Fusion, although they won't necessarily be all American. Wink
Does that mean Allan Holdsworth will be in the polls?

FYI, Allan moved to the USA permanently in the 80's. The main reason was, not many in England liked his solo music. His solo material was much more popular in the States and he made a living from it, albeit barely.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Rest assured that when we finally reach the 1970's, ALL of the poll albums will be Jazz Fusion, although they won't necessarily be all American. Wink
Does that mean Allan Holdsworth will be in the polls?

FYI, Allan moved to the USA permanently in the 80's. The main reason was, not many in England liked his solo music. His solo material was much more popular in the States and he made a living from it, albeit barely.
No, not quite. It means both Santana the band and Carlos Santana solo will be included, even though he's Mexican by birth. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2024 at 03:47
one big absentStern Smile on this list (the only one that could be said that he was doing fusion in 59): Art Blakey and The  Jazz Messenger

his 1959 album called Moanin' is a reference in all jazz books, even if it's (hard) Bop 

One could add Gil Evans' Progressive Big Band (for whom Blakey was drumming at the time) but I don't think I have heard Gret Jazz Standards, his 1959 release


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What?! No Bill Evans?!?! Everybody Digs Bill Evans!

Where would music be without Bill Evans?



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^ I'd take that Bill Evans album over a few others in this poll. But I think he got better - or rather released better albums in the early 1960's... 

...so I decided to put it on when I was typing this. It's pretty great and probably more memorable than I remembered:)
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For those who don't like the choices, quit complaining and make your own poll.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2024 at 08:02
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

For those who don't like the choices, quit complaining and make your own poll.
I complain as much I feel like about a 1959-"classic fusion" poll. PA is a music site and this is a forum for discussion. When I notice something I've have knowledge about that is presented in a wrong or nonsensical way - I will comment. It's just how I am. 

...But now I got nothing more to complain about, as PP changed the title to something that no longer hurts my eyes (and mind):)
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

What?! No Bill Evans?!?! Everybody Digs Bill Evans!

Where would music be without Bill Evans?

I left out Bill Evans and Art Blakey because I didn't think anyone would vote for them. Big mistake! Ouch


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What a great year. Lots of indispensable classics. I was at the grand old age of -3 back then.
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Kind of Blue and Time Out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Criswell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2024 at 07:47
The '59 jazz album that gets the most play from me?

Jimmy Smith's "The Sermon"
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I have to go with Kind Of Blue as my personal favorite. Another 1959 release that I find interesting is Jack Kerouac & Steve Allen- Poetry For The Beat Generation. Beatnik poetry over jazz may not be for all tastes, but it’s certainly an interesting time capsule of that era. At least in my opinion. : )
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Originally posted by SleepingFinger SleepingFinger wrote:

I have to go with Kind Of Blue as my personal favorite. Another 1959 release that I find interesting is Jack Kerouac & Steve Allen- Poetry For The Beat Generation. Beatnik poetry over jazz may not be for all tastes, but it’s certainly an interesting time capsule of that era. At least in my opinion. : )
On that note, I was thinking about Ken Nordine's excellent 1959-album NEXT. His spoken delivery is jazz in itself and the backing ensemble is a full jazz orchestra and different jazzband constallations 


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Cool! I will certainly be checking this one out now that you’ve brought it to my attention! : )

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