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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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Reeling in the years with a profusion of Jazz Fusion in a new series of polls running from 1959 through to the year 2000. 🗣️ 🎉 🎵 🎶 💃 🎤 🎸 🎊 🕺 🥁
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Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue
Sun Ra - Jazz In Silhouette Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24621 |
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Dave Brubeck Quartet.
Any more voters from 1959, or does thrice pay for all?
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6779 |
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This one is a toughy. Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12368 |
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Nice to see you, or anyone, make a poll of artists in the USA. Thanks Paul!
![]() I wouldn't classify any of these as "fusion" but it's Kind of Blue for me. |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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Coming up later.....
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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Me neither, and I voted for the album that Miles ahead of the rest too. I can promise this series of polls gets much better later on though with 136 more artists still to come and with the Steely Dan and Pat Metheny years to look forward to.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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Charles Mingus was a last minute addition. I was Umming and Ahing about including that album.
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Miles Davis (Kind of Blue), Herbie Mann (Flautista), Charles Mingus.
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That Coleman album is a decisive win for me, although Mingus is not far behind.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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Kind of Blue - the autobiography of MP Ken Clarke, who spent his days in parliament and his nights in Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club.
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^Hmmm. It seems we are now at a club in the U.K?
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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Yes, Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club is in London, but Louis Balfour's Jazz Club only exists in the imagination of the writers of The Fast Show.
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Mingus
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I went with Mingus too, with Sun Ra and Coleman following. Miles Davis' Kind of Blue has received a lot of attention at PA, but I much prefer the following Sketches of Spain and then the 1965 to 1974 period is I think stellar.
My dad loved Gershwin's Porgy and Bess and made the mistake of buying the Davis album when I was a kid and complained vociferously (he had bought it at a Vancouver store that specialises in classical called The Magic Flute). I liked it, it was the first time I remembering hearing Miles Davis. I was rather sad when he he exchanged the record. I bet he wouldn't like Sketches of Spain as much as I do. That resonated with me in part because I played some of the same music as a trumpeter in youth orchestra. |
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I have no idea why you would label a selection of sixteen 1959
albums that you actually KNOW arent US jazz fusion* as "Classic US Jazz
Fusion". But then again I will never understand you. Perhaps my ten
favorite (non-fusion) jazz albums from this year:
The Cecil Taylor Quartet - Looking Ahead! The Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out Ahmed Abdul-Malik - Jazz SaharaMiles Davis - Kind of Blue The Chico Hamilton Quintet - Gongs East! Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um Abbey Lincoln - Abbey Is BlueOrnette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come Yusef Lateef - The DreamerThe Horace Silver Quintet - Finger Poppin' With the Horace Silver Quintet *Les
Baxter isn't even "regular jazz" - and like Brubeck, Coleman and Mingus
- he won't ever record an album considered to be Jazz Fusion.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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There's two main reasons why I began this series of polls from the year 1959:- 1. Because that was the year as I was born. and 2. I couldn't possibly consider leaving out Miles Davis' classic Kind of Blue album. And on the subject of Les Baxter, I have more albums by him than any other artist - 32 in total - so he was another "must" for inclusion. ![]() Rest assured that when we finally reach the 1970's, ALL of the poll albums will be Jazz Fusion, although they won't necessarily be all American.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12339 |
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^Haha but that's not actual "reasons". I have more Morricone albums than anyone else in my collection. I wouldn't include him in a "Classic Exotica Albums"-poll simply because I own a lot of his albums. Just like I know Les Baxter doesn't belong in Jazz Fusion, I would know that Morricone doesn't belong in Exotica. +of course you could leave out Kind of Blue - as it's Classic Modal Jazz and not Classic Jazz Fusion.
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The issue is, none of this is "Jazz Fusion". Miles Davis at this point is playing "Modal Jazz", Mingus is playing "Post-Bop", Brubeck is into "West Coast Jazz", and Shorter is playing "Hard Bop". There is no such thing as "fusion" at this point. Not even vaguely. It's like making a list of rock and roll albums from 1959 and saying Chuck Berry, Bill Hailey, Ricky Nelson and Elvis are prog. "Jazz Fusion" as a definable genre doesn't come into existence until 1967 or later, when jazz players like Larry Coryell whipped out their guitars and amps and bring rock music into what previously was a wholly separate entitiy, jazz. Of fusion, Coryell noted of this next generation of jazz players, "We loved Miles but we also loved the Rolling Stones." Miles Davis himself was profoundly affected by Hendrix. Corea, McLaughlin, Hancock all come around in the late 60s. |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43231 |
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I could skip straight from the year 1959 to the year 1967 when Jazz Fusion really began, but then I'd be missing out on some classic jazz albums, such as Miles Davis' "Sketches of Spain" album, which is coming up next and John Coltrane's classic "A Love Supreme" album from 1965. to name just two.
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