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Seven Wonders of Fleetwood Mac - Complete Discography including all Solo Albums

 3 stars 1968: Fleetwood Mac - Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8pAn9J5-SvPDmHPRV6gFwsXJREntUf0w
 4 stars 1969: Fleetwood Mac - The Pious Bird of Good Omen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvBVNZzhMA-1Ewg1ifU1k0u
 4 stars 1974: Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard to Find - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LusovRiaikvO5PEnjuSpSFy
 4 stars 1975: Fleetwood Mac - Live at Capital Centre, Largo, MD - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtJHNrXJrkhNs3R08gnA4hR
 5 stars 1987: Fleetwood Mac - Tango in the Night - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltg-xr6cTMdIjvayE5Sz0RI
 5 stars 1987: Fleetwood Mac - The Tango in the Night Tour - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvUE0dA_poGYPtvk4uQuv97

 3 stars 1997: Bekka Bramlett & Billy Burnette - Bekka & Billy - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCYFSj0pi8h3zzc4gYAjne8lSgozgKfbJ 

 3 stars 2002: Bekka Bramlett - What's in it for Me - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf63HFgtf_17UfGgkD-VWXksylIFk9_9l

 5 stars 1992: Lindsey Buckingham - Out of the Cradle - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ln3D5pWmGPTtFZNHUizTAWuliuG43oGwA
 5 stars 2018: Lindsey Buckingham - The Best of Lindsey Buckingham - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lgyYQ5tKmbQYHcbzknUuOyJiWdkQepAkY
 4 stars 2021: Lindsey Buckingham - Lindsey Buckingham - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mgSUpETyygt1xzPDAycbZ2SrBlgj7Sroo

 4 stars 1973: Buckingham Nicks - Buckingham Nicks - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1kHeix-55c

 4 stars 2017: Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - Buckingham McVie - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgZla5YlNGOq-

                  1980: Billy Burnette - Billy Burnette - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l2sALerIk4QuYUqR96cjWSc0Oa8RZ_2yQ
                  1981: Billy Burnette - Gimme You - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k4NCZRGFo1drfs3aRdI8W2eOHKJQyzGwo
                  1985: Billy Burnette - Try Me - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmPO8n2PqmKTsVYPIS7wBMQTynrI4nlD
                  1986: Billy Burnette - Soldier of Love - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmPO8n2PqmIVt45BTwMXNEVdFKn4MLlu
                  1988: Billy Burnette - Brother to Brother - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmPO8n2PqmJO9fF4Ti_w9nEK2Re-kQTx
                  1993: Billy Burnette - Coming Home - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLkuBn58tk3x00edBK88Qp3bzZAcA5vgM
                  2000: Billy Burnette - Are You with Me Baby - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mqD6DjpnkHUXzyZ4sIZ2YyocLF44WI4V4
                  2006: Billy Burnette - Memphis in Manhattan
                  2011: Billy Burnette - Rock & Roll with It - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mdLvVpBe2rQ7fnwaFbddbqFMZQrtcplB0
                  2017: Billy Burnette - Crazy Like Me - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kUx9beda9oaJeGR_y_XaOLrbPBETVkNGU

                  1981: Mick Fleetwood - The Visitor - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0UvfK2UGot-3qzstnGVHQb1cgqfWSbiU

                  1983: Mick Fleetwood's Zoo - I'm Not Me - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mDEQgv4RxZ6xEf1yG5KUe4PVernBMwYr0
                  1992: Mick Fleetwood's Zoo - Shakin' the Cage - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDcKlkCSA_T79jY-LPmRiX9Ba2ey3mV9t
              
                  2004: The Mick Fleetwood Band - Something Big - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lyCYGCr6i7QgAuMw--2Gimi13q3-kk8lA
 
                  2008: Mick Fleetwood Blues Band - Blue Again! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0UvfK2UGot-3qzstnGVHQb1cgqfWSbiU

                  2021: Mick Fleetwood & Friends - Celebrate the Music of Peter Green - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mkSdhrXDKgHccAzHrJjYvacLgbNHtxHQI

 3 stars 1984: Peter Green's Katmandu - A Case for the Blues - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkAYJpuZ59AbpYx72BvxBrsrkqRgPV2JY
 2 stars 1997: Peter Green and the Men in Blue - I Got the Blues for Christmas - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_T180E9Us2nBmmvv11cZ32iQ_cCbE5HQ
 3 stars 1997: Peter Green Splinter Group - Peter Green Splinter Group - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mMoWECfQQFvMsRcgPYu37J4zAyNfwlX50
 3 stars 1998: Peter Green Splinter Group - The Robert Johnson Songbook - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nAYoOwW7cIYDPJ7baOHmflgnIqEWGThZ0
 4 stars 1999: Peter Green Splinter Group - Solo Session: Live at Ronnie Scott's - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k6LjWwqohOwbOQAHQ3vs7ZSHA0Zc-tPsk
 4 stars 1999: Peter Green Splinter Group - Destiny Road - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mqMU7kvkcKTULUZzgTF8b7OUfkTATvtmM
 3 stars 2000: Peter Green Splinter Group - Hot Foot Powder - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mwZEgf7bUBj0TEE6Nh0GYNfiv_HCKYHrw
 3 stars 2001: Peter Green Splinter Group - Time Traders - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m9V8Tew3ZWgQgEic5NV4F3nbNjn_4UMGc
 3 stars 2001: Peter Green Splinter Group - Blues Don't Change - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nbQvdgx-6Kl7VIMY_X7hnpZoPVEyhi4jc
 3 stars 2003: Peter Green Splinter Group - Reaching the Cold 100 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n8NJnuJnHduSvDZK2cUNbMA_8DO11FqoI
 5 stars 2004: Peter Green - Man of the World: The Anthology 1968-1983 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH5tDMnHXFo

                  1975: Danny Kirwan - Second Chapter - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KKJcNYfW_A
                  1977: Danny Kirwan - Midnight in San Juan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U86kgOTMnho
                  1979: Danny Kirwan - Hello There Big Boy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pwHWM8QYW4
                  2000: Danny Kirwan - Ram Jam City - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDUjrg3VfFI

 4 stars 1970: Dave Mason - Alone Together - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLITWtxIzxzjMmL-4ye-sMsQI1JOQiBRHM
 4 stars 1971: Dave Mason & Cass Elliot - Dave Mason & Cass Elliot - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8cCNmwdHjeKuKB-1QW-to7jZdnTkwI50
 4 stars 1981: Dave Mason - Live at Perkins Palace - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoS9SlD2Ex0
 4 stars 1987: Dave Mason - Some Assembly Required
 4 stars 1987: Dave Mason - Two Hearts
 5 stars 1995: Dave Mason - Long Lost Friend: The Best of Dave Mason -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kG9V6l2HKqORMuiqASEm6geigZ7-PKwsM
 4 stars 2002: Dave Mason - Live at Sunrise Theatre - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EtGLAQ2NFE
 4 stars 2008: Dave Mason - 26 Letters - 12 Notes
 4 stars 2014: Dave Mason - Future's Past

 4 stars 1970: Christine McVie - Christine Perfect - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPVRL12yQfU

 4 stars 2009: Stevie Nicks - The Soundstage Sessions - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-gMByJ_tMq_d8UTTwdo_Td6EZlp-Umjl
 4 stars 2014: Stevie Nicks - 24 Karat Gold: Songs from the Vault - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0_i522IzA6Tcu7TBeuaRp6ovQ7j7AGe4

                  1970: Jeremy Spencer - Jeremy Spencer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vsllalEV_E
                  1972: Jeremy Spencer - Jeremy Spencer and the Children - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vsllalEV_E
                  1979: Jeremy Spencer - Flee - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ljVEWMTRXxO8Xs2-YUM9t4ByCLLvMg49k
                  2005: Jeremy Spencer - In Session - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6Psjl56DG9aeyKhn2ng8ll4HyWSTh8ch
                  2006: Jeremy Spencer - Precious Little - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l736StUpmcZEIUOoogqNcLH-GQp87GNQg
                  2014: Jeremy Spencer - Coventry Blue - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWErz3NvPGpCmgYQkDN4bXzRQl2gCk59I
                  2016: Jeremy Spencer - Homebrewed Blues - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lIrLy7D11Pb6GTfKk91lDjSMq0DPuGZEo
                  2018: Jeremy Spencer - Treading Softly - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ksKNsSQPYjhRxJlZpbY3X7NS9Mkw_F-Ys
                  2019: Jeremy Spencer - Latina Nights - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luCAqFL7-55_SDaF34LxkuVWZNCFuEBNc
                  2019: Jeremy Spencer - Yearning Winds - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lbvB9D3zx8i6F_45d8xosI9arETxCoDJU
                  2019: Jeremy Spencer - A Time for Angels - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_7S-jT9HTsbfucvPyNKg6irmuYb9TngU
                  2020: Jeremy Spencer - Mona - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laLqc_6G2peIYmpDanKqvRgygnmwLw6XM
                  2020: Jeremy Spencer - Before the Storm - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvimITr8zf8iDrshDGl0X9WDBVdn2BWR0
                  2020: Jeremy Spencer - Waiting On Shore - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nuM_Q6z8v-fDpgvRj1ZQ3h9TJVR6gLITE
                  2021: Jeremy Spencer - Melancholy Moon - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ndXDp3pa0whgTABRVGOF22NgRL1ZYz-Wo
                  2021: Jeremy Spencer - Boundless - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlyAz5rK5qikrZ1eYg-W1laszKCYylhYY

                  1992: Rick Vito - King of Hearts - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lSntrjiBBPaUrdLBc9qyvKqnDPRu5iTAg
                  1998: Rick Vito - Pink & Black - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvW0mozoZtg
                  2000: Rick Vito - Lucky Devils - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lAaTVrwxPTgVTnDEMm5H1Z1niLTAyfctU
                  2001: Rick Vito - Crazy Cool - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nUnI7gDWri-U_c5D_OKBx0_h2W_OabAtg
                  2003: Rick Vito - Band Box Boogie - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mLWxvS0SqI0K7JQCJHpEe5dbM_82d0ylg
                  2005: Rick Vito - Rattlesnake Shake - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNQ2cSfmVertaB6F6ujiDZHC99WS-APl0
                  2014: Rick Vito - Mojo On My Side - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZMqTieENJNunB2olQcDz8ne35AkQ5WI8
                  2019: Rick Vito - Soulshaker - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_klVE_IluVZVo02SxgmGiWQf817Os8XOwY

                  1970: Bob Welch & Head West - Bob Welch & Head West - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWItPayUT2chwx12_Epkf1kNp3P62qlpc

                  1977: Bob Welch - French Kiss - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l28mKsqSAsjM2nKyYTGkJGthenfIq2dxg
                  1979: Bob Welch - Three Hearts - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nXdbtpkahidKJi3xjOGyw9bgskTyMxyPE
                  1979: Bob Welch - The Other One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRFzYOIdA8o
                  1980: Bob Welch - Man Overboard - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1lBcA13C8CH0R8pNxlOkYCf8nhtfYbk_
                  1981: Bob Welch - Bob Welch - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nvnfEITh7u8FO_iKH4PcMJ7tFVbgCpvJE
                  1983: Bob Welch - Eye Contact - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFc7b8d1EGY
                  1999: Bob Welch - Bob Welch Looks at Bop - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mk7pSk7pgNoh3tjfwA-DI61cZTiWaY1Ko
                  2003: Bob Welch - His Fleetwood Mac Years and Beyond - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ny4wWUxnegQJ3GUlWMqaoHpHdSWsP4aJ8
                  2006: Bob Welch - His Fleetwood Mac Years and Beyond, Vol. 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D0d-Edpcf8

                  1980: Bob Weston - Night Light - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_tc-cg29eg
                  1981: Bob Weston - Studio Picks - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaGoxDnrqrAZHs0SWsvYHx_ID91LSd-CY


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Rumours 4.00
Fleetwood Mac 4.00
Tusk 4.00
Mystery to Me 4.00
Then Play On 4.00
Heroes Are Hard to Find 4.00
Future Games 3.50

-Danny Kirwan's solo albums are all excellent and sadly overlooked.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Rumours 4.00
Fleetwood Mac 4.00
Tusk 4.00
Mystery to Me 4.00
Then Play On 4.00
Heroes Are Hard to Find 4.00
Future Games 3.50

-Danny Kirwan's solo albums are all excellent and sadly overlooked.
I'm looking forward to listening to all of these Fleetwood Mac-related albums again, including Danny Kirwan's first recorded work with Fleetwood Mac below, which you may recall. Smile
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Rumours 
Fleetwood Mac 
Tango In The Night
Tusk 
Mystery to Me 
Then Play On 
Heroes Are Hard to Find 
Future Games 
Bare Trees
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

-Danny Kirwan's solo albums are all excellent and sadly overlooked.
I'm looking forward to listening to all of these Fleetwood Mac-related albums again, including Danny Kirwan's first recorded work with Fleetwood Mac below, which you may recall. Smile


Certainly. I think the only place you can locate his solo albums in full, is on youtube. I think they are all better than most of the Fleetwood Mac albums he was on (except Then Play On).

From:
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Heroes Are Hard to Find 4.00

-there's at least half a star in difference. Maybe 4.25 - 3.75 is closer to how I feel.
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Hi,

My choices would not have the overblown _____ on the albums! 

I prefer the Christine McVie and earlier periods. The later stuff was over blown commercial junk!
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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Well for those of you who do like the Buckingham-Nicks era FM, you might want to check out the album Buckingham-Nicks if you can get hold of it. It has some brilliant songs including a better (imo) version of "Crystal" which turned up on "Fleetwood Mac".

I like the Buckingham Nicks album too. Thumbs Up
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Nice cover as well Wink although I was called a perv when I took it into school once.
I only just realised Stevie Nicks is topless on the cover of the Buckingham Nicks album, although she's probably wearing knickers. Embarrassed
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Top 7 update with Octopus II & Saperlipopette's votes added:-

01. Rumours (94 points)
02. Then Play On (65 points)
03. Fleetwood Mac 1975 (46 points)
04. Tango in the Night (38 points)
05. Tusk (36 points)
06. Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac (28 points)
07. Bare Trees (25 points)

08. Mystery to Me (13 points)
08. Mirage (13 points)
10. The Pious Bird of Good Omen (12 points)
10. Heroes Are Hard to Find (12 points) 
10. Future Games (12 points)

13. Kiln House (11 points)
13. Mr. Wonderful (11 points)
15. English Rose (8 points)



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Rumours No. 1 ?! I can't think of a more overrated album in all of 70s rock! Dead
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Rumours No. 1 ?! I can't think of a more overrated album in all of 70s rock! Dead

I guessed Rumours would be #1. I'm surprised the Mirage album only has 13 points so far though. Confused
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I think every Fleetwood Mac albums is flawed (but I could say the same about Genesis) - even Rumours. And some of their best material ended up as singles only (or B-sides like Silver Springs). BUT I think people unable to enjoy some truly heartfelt, well composed and downright stunning AOR are missing out. sl*g.ing off a period that gave us timeless classics such Landslide, Rhiannon, Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Storms, Sara, Gypsy and many more as commercial junk... Well, it just makes me feel sorry for that person really. 
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Rumours No. 1 ?! I can't think of a more overrated album in all of 70s rock! Dead


Album’s don’t come much more classic than Rumours. Not just for the music, but the whole story of how they managed to make something so good despite all the “domestic” issues going on. It’s timeless😎
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Rumours No. 1 ?! I can't think of a more overrated album in all of 70s rock! Dead


Album’s don’t come much more classic than Rumours. Not just for the music, but the whole story of how they managed to make something so good despite all the “domestic” issues going on. It’s timeless😎

My question is do you think Rumours is their best album? Confused
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Then Play On
Fleetwood Mac (Peter Green)
Fleetwood Mac in Chicago
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chronologically 

Then Play On
Future Games
Fleetwood Mac 
Rumours 
Tusk 
Tango In The Night

I don't find any of the others good enough to be favorites



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 3 stars 1968: Fleetwood Mac - Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LthXuxMsYirea2Y8hdNwsOp

The original four-piece line-up of Mick Fleetwood, Peter Green, John McVie and Jeremy Spencer.
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The same core line-up as the first album, consisting of Mick Fleetwood, Peter Green, John McVie and Jeremy Spencer, with the added attraction of Christine Perfect McVie featuring as a guest musician for the first time on a Fleetwood Mac album. Mr. Wonderful continues with the bluesy tradition of the debut album, but features a less-than-wonderful album cover of a naked Mick Fleetwood, although the associated English Rose album cover wasn't just Bad - it was Even Worse! Ouch





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4 stars 1969: Fleetwood Mac - The Pious Bird of Good Omen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvBVNZzhMA-1Ewg1ifU1k0u

Not a studio album, but a compilation of non-album singles and b-sides and well-worth buying just for the following two classics alone. 




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4 stars 1969: Fleetwood Mac - Then Play On - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsoAo_0V9AIg31BiiytMP0h

Fleetwood Mac's third studio album and the first to feature Danny Kirwan. Then Play On features the single "Rattlesnake Shake" (including a surprise appearance by Hugh Hefner), but sadly, doesn't include Peter Green's "Oh Well", "Man of the World", or "The Green Manalishi" (at least not until the 2013 remaster). Oh Well, C'est La Vie. Confused






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3 stars 1969: Fleetwood Mac - In Chicago - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu5Bwm28_AgaFpsGfnoRYYK

Not a live concert in front of an audience, but a studio blues jam at Chess Records in Chicago, featuring the five-piece line-up of Mick Fleetwood, Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, John McVie & Jeremy Spencer. 



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