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someone_else 
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Nice to introduce a band, but as a review (like this) it is reduced to the level of hollow crap. Moreover, I find the ratio of one star ratings for this album rather suspicious.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: October 09 2023 at 09:06 |
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It's a little confusing too. And not a review.
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someone_else
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Posted: October 09 2023 at 09:10 |
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^ Agreed. They'd better chanhe their name to Entropius, methinks.
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Logan
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Posted: October 09 2023 at 09:47 |
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That "review" from the bandmember on the album is pointing out an error. The main issue is that it seems that the FISH Hollow Earth album was added erroneously to the Derek William Dick Fish discography despite being a totally different project. I have not found a Dick/Fish album of that name but here is the bandcamp page for the FISH band that released the album Hollow Earth: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=FISH+Hollow+earth
I'll bring this to the Errors and Omissions team before deleting not just the review but the album entry. EDIT: I deleted the debut album that was mistakenly added to the Derek William Dick Fish discography. Edited by Logan - October 09 2023 at 10:06 |
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unfading
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Posted: December 06 2023 at 02:22 |
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Hello, site administrators!
I read a review from a BrufordFreak user to Roz Vitalis studio album "Quia Nesciunt Quid Faciunt" and noticed a very unfriendly and boorish attitude towards the authors of the music. In this case https://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2970358 I see this review as defamatory information and baseless insult. This is not the first time we have to deal with offensive reviews from a user of the BrufordFreak collaborator. Please take measures to moderate such reviews. Thank you
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Cristi
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Posted: December 06 2023 at 02:43 |
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I don't think the review is offensive. It's a honest review with a reviewer a bit unsatisfied with what he heard. Nothing wrong with that. I don't think the review is insulting or defamatory. That's an exaggeration.
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Hrychu
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Posted: December 06 2023 at 02:50 |
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I too think it is an exaggeration. At least you were given a review, and by a very respected reviewer BrufordFreak, not a review-less 1 star bomb by some random doofus, like I did.
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unfading
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Posted: December 07 2023 at 04:22 |
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ОК. If you think so, then there are no questions for you. On the other hand, this review may be useful for us.
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ProggnosisDB
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Posted: December 07 2023 at 10:53 |
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A harsh review is not disrespectful - but the following in my opinion is disrespectful
"Were I a professional musician with any sense of pride whatsoever, I would never have published these songs in the states of partial-completion that they're in. It is, to my mind, disgraceful." and should be replaced with - "Personally I would never have considered releasing songs in such a state of 'partial-completion'" would have achieved the point without suggesting that this artist is lacking in professional pride and that they are disgraceful for releasing it. |
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Logan
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Posted: December 07 2023 at 11:29 |
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^ I agree.
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Duddick
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Posted: December 07 2023 at 13:27 |
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^me too
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Atavachron
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Posted: December 07 2023 at 17:13 |
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^ I'd say if he were a professional musician then those words would be acceptable, even informative.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 13 2023 at 16:17 |
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I'm not sure if this is abuse but it is certainly WRONG Looks like somebody has decided to add an album from Catherine Ribeiro's solo career to the Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes page and a review has now shown up. It is well established that she + Alpes and her solo career are two completely different artist entries She + Alpes lasted from 1970 to 1980 but here solo career started in 1977 and continued to at least 2002 She + Alpes is the freaky avant-folk proggy space rock that we all know Her solo stuff is strictly traditional French chanson The album Fenętre ardente needs to be removed from the database Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes (includes + 2 Bis here)Catherine Ribeiro](function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'8351e34efffa9661',t:'MTcwMjUwOTEwNC41NjgwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: December 13 2023 at 16:30 |
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It's much kinder than what I would have written, had I taken the time to write a lengthy review for the album. Here's the blurb that I wrote a while ago on my website: "I'm not getting all the buzz around this artist. It's nice, non-confrontational musical journeys around the prog neighborhood, never really arriving anywhere."
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Cristi
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Posted: December 14 2023 at 01:41 |
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You'll have to write the admins about that. My problem is also that alainPP does not know how to add albums. If he added other albums, I think they need editing. (I also think this user account is handled by several people, should be reason enough for a ban IMO.)
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 14 2023 at 09:01 |
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^ presumably the admins should be checking this but it seems there are absent most of the time now so we are in effect admin free :/ (function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'8357a76e8f5496e4',t:'MTcwMjU2OTU2Ni41OTYwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Cristi
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Posted: December 14 2023 at 09:39 |
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Send them a private message, they will reply. I don't know what else is there to say. Also post the error in the E & O team thread, they will also bring the matter to the admins.
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Logan
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PM was sent and it has been responded to. I do check these topi cs if I see them in the active topics list, but I am sometimes completely absent for days. I get various PMs to deal with things very regularly, and that is a good way to contact us. I don;t get email notifications of these, but at least when I come back I then will see them.
I love Catherine Ribeiro + 2 Bi and Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes, and it should be a pleasure to investigate as she is one of my very favourite singers based on those projects. If she has any proggy qualities solo, then I think I may be reluctant to remove it. |
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I am on here daily and do respond to private messages. If Logan is familiar with her I'll let him handle this one.
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Logan
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Of course technically, Catherine Ribeiro "solo" should not be included at all under the Moullet-led with Ribeiro Alpes (including 2Bis), so it would be easy to remove. I had wondered if significantly PA worthy if we might make it also for her solo work (as sometimes happens often for convenience even if it should be separated. She does have a number of solo albums and only that one with review has been added. Musically, I find it interesting art chanson that I could see being of definite interest to the Catherine Ribeiro & Alpes. I don't want to remove it just now, and will reformat the suggestion and add a mention that this is her solo and not Alpes to the album name. And Francis Moze of Magma and Pierre Moerlen's Gong is on it. Great bass player.
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