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Poll Question: Which album do you prefer?
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19 [40.43%]
6 [12.77%]
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    Posted: November 19 2023 at 11:37
I'm listening to one of these right now and so I thought of this poll. Wink

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 19 2023 at 11:38
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Leftoverture Smile
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Leftoverture
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Big Sky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2023 at 12:04
Leftoverture. First 5 Kansas albums are strong. In fact, last two recent studio albums are pretty good too.
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Like them all, but always liked Song for America just a tiny bit more...

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Like them all, but always liked Song for America just a tiny bit more...

The title track to SfA and Magnum Opus are maybe the two best things they ever did.


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 19 2023 at 12:16
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

The title track to SfA and Magnum Opus are maybe the two best things they ever did.
The Wall is my favorite Kansas tune.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

The title track to SfA and Magnum Opus are maybe the two best things they ever did.
The Wall is my favorite Kansas tune.

That might be number three for me. 
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Song for America brings out the patriot in me. Smile
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Song for America. I feel better when I'm rectangular.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2023 at 15:52
first vote for the debut album
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2023 at 16:41
Leftoverture for me although SFA and PoKR are also great. Masque, the debut and Monolith not as much but all still good. 

I actually think I got the order wrong though. Now that I think about it I think SfA came out before Masque.


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 19 2023 at 16:43
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2023 at 21:19
The obvious winner will be Leftoverture, so I voted for Poing of no Return, to give it some love.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2023 at 21:21
Masque was the 'we're not sure what to do now' middle album of that decent run that really ended with POKR. Kansas started as a symphonic prog band and were already moving to short form song formats by the time they got to Masque. Kerry Livgren and Steve Walsh are 2 immense talents but the 'Corporate rock' thing already was taking hold as early as 1976. IMO

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Song For America 4.15
Masque 3.68
Leftoverture 4.23
Point Of Know Return 4.18
Monolith 3.26

They stay pretty poor until the oft overlooked and underrated Somewhere To Elsewhere which could be higher rated if Steve Walsh's voice hadn't been shot. There is then a 16 year gap until the last 2 which are actually very good. Steve couldn't carry on with the band so it did need fresh blood.




Edited by richardh - November 19 2023 at 21:31
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Song for America, title track is my fav Kansas track ever, the rest are great, but all 6 albums are essential in any collection, serious music
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Leftoverture +1
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2023 at 05:35
Definitely their debut, IMHO.Thumbs Up

The weaker ones being Masque and Monolith (what an awesome inner & outer gatefold artwork, though... which prompted me to write a few sci-fi novellas back then - thankfully probably long lost: probably very embarrassing).







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Edited by Sean Trane - November 20 2023 at 13:30
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Like them all, but always liked Song for America just a tiny bit more...

The title track to SfA and Magnum Opus are maybe the two best things they ever did.

Except for "Incomudro," "Journey from Mariabronn," "Miracles Out of Nowhere"...you see where this is going. Wink
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Masque was the 'we're not sure what to do now' middle album of that decent run that really ended with POKR. Kansas started as a symphonic prog band and were already moving to short form song formats by the time they got to Masque. Kerry Livgren and Steve Walsh are 2 immense talents but the 'Corporate rock' thing already was taking hold as early as 1976. IMO

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Kansas 4.01
Song For America 4.15
Masque 3.68
Leftoverture 4.23
Point Of Know Return 4.18
Monolith 3.26

They stay pretty poor until the oft overlooked and underrated Somewhere To Elsewhere which could be higher rated if Steve Walsh's voice hadn't been shot. There is then a 16 year gap until the last 2 which are actually very good. Steve couldn't carry on with the band so it did need fresh blood.

Monolith is a big step down, though. Not sure what happened there. Their first five albums are incredible.

I think Freaks of Nature is a fabulous return to form, too.


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