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    Posted: August 15 2023 at 14:58
Taken from the Steve Hoffman Forums, thread I have been following. 

"This appears to be the listing for the Deluxe/Special/whatever edition :

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CB537PM5...refinements=p_32:Steven+Wilson&s=music&sr=1-3

Track listings below (I assume Disc 2 is demos/unused tracks. I don't know what to make of Disc 3 !)

Disque : 1
1 Inclination
2 What Life Brings
3 Economies of Scale
4 Impossible Tightrope
5 Rock Bottom
6 Beautiful Scarecrow
7 The Harmony Codex
8 Time Is Running Out
9 Actual Brutal Facts
10 Staircase

Disque : 2
1 Codex Theme #7
2 Economies of Scale
3 Codex Theme #9
4 Inclination
5 Impossible Tightrope
6 Codex Theme #6
7 Beautiful Scarecrow
8 Codex Theme #8
9 Time Is Running Out
10 Staircase
11 Codex Theme #3
12 What Life Brings
13 The Harmony Codex
14 Staircase

Disque : 3
1 Inclination
2 Inclination
3 Inclination
4 Inclination
5 Inclination
6 Inclination
7 What Life Brings
8 What Life Brings
9 What Life Brings
10 What Life Brings
11 What Life Brings
12 What Life Brings
13 Economies of Scale
14 Economies of Scale
15 Economies of Scale
16 Economies of Scale
17 Economies of Scale
18 Economies of Scale
19 Impossible Tightrope
20 Impossible Tightrope
21 Impossible Tightrope
22 Impossible Tightrope
23 Impossible Tightrope
24 Impossible Tightrope
25 Rock Bottom
26 Rock Bottom
27 Rock Bottom
28 Rock Bottom
29 Rock Bottom
30 Rock Bottom
31 Beautiful Scarecrow
32 Beautiful Scarecrow
33 Beautiful Scarecrow
34 Beautiful Scarecrow
35 Beautiful Scarecrow
36 Beautiful Scarecrow
37 The Harmony Codex
38 The Harmony Codex
39 The Harmony Codex
40 The Harmony Codex
41 The Harmony Codex
42 The Harmony Codex
43 Time Is Running Out
44 Time Is Running Out
45 Time Is Running Out
46 Time Is Running Out
47 Time Is Running Out
48 Time Is Running Out
49 Actual Brutal Facts
50 Actual Brutal Facts
51 Actual Brutal Facts
52 Actual Brutal Facts
53 Actual Brutal Facts
54 Actual Brutal Facts
55 Staircase
56 Staircase
57 Staircase
58 Staircase
59 Staircase
60 Staircase
61 Economies of Scale
62 The Harmony Codex" 
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new stuff ?
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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

new stuff ?

Harmony Codex is his new album coming out this year. He made an announcement back in 2022 about a new project, the album titled was revealed April 2022.....
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SW and Ninet

This should be really good!!



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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

new stuff ?


Harmony Codex is his new album coming out this year. He made an announcement back in 2022 about a new project, the album titled was revealed April 2022.....

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Unfortunately often the amount of marketing hype about a new release is inversely related with the quality …
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

SW and Ninet

This should be really good!!


Hi,

Ninet is magnificent on that one song in a SW album, and my thoughts were, specially for PT, that his ability to take the material into a more emotional spot as Ninet did, is not something that PT can do, or will do, but the sad thing is that what would (in my book) be the best piece in that album (with Ninet), is something that has not been ignored. It probably took him a while to figure it out, but if this works, it should be magnificent.

Advanced notes on a new something or other is not much of an indication about anything. There are very few artists out there that never tell you anything ... and they will, at least, tell you that they are doing something. But already having a title, is a bit strange ... and probably limiting to the context of the whole idea. 

We'll see in a month or two.


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Can't wait to hear his new material. IMO, the idea of a more ambitious The Future Bites is awesome and opens to many awesome possibilities. I don't expect anything with HCE or CC quality, but I'm glad for now this side of his is not abandoned and he can be more ambitious with his solo material.
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Originally posted by Deadwing Deadwing wrote:

Can't wait to hear his new material. IMO, the idea of a more ambitious The Future Bites is awesome and opens to many awesome possibilities. I don't expect anything with HCE or CC quality, but I'm glad for now this side of his is not abandoned and he can be more ambitious with his solo material.
I tend to agree.......I've read somewhere, similar to HCE. He's doing these listening events in spatial audio, the feedback has been mainly about the sonic experience, although I am getting the sense the content is pretty striking.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

...He's doing these listening events in spatial audio, the feedback has been mainly about the sonic experience, although I am getting the sense the content is pretty striking.
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Hi,

Not very original I don't think. Heck, Eno was doing this kind of stuff 40 years ago ... and many thought he was being pretentious! At least, it involved a lot of art ... whereas SW's bit on that video might not be considered art as those were self pictures. Touched up, of course in the SW style!
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Originally posted by Deadwing Deadwing wrote:

Can't wait to hear his new material. IMO, the idea of a more ambitious The Future Bites is awesome and opens to many awesome possibilities. I don't expect anything with HCE or CC quality, but I'm glad for now this side of his is not abandoned and he can be more ambitious with his solo material.

I absolutely CAN wait to hear it. The more marketing hype he generates, the more I'm focusing on the many, many artists who are releasing great music right now, without the hype.
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Will most definitely not check this out.
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Boy......everyone's cereal must have had horse pee in it LOL. It's all good, I generally don't listen to any pre-released songs, and SW has yet to do that with this new album other than these select listening events which are by invitation only.
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^So only the elite, or those with an abundance of moolah, get an invite?

Surround mix for disc folks, and super wuper duper pink frost limited edition LP release?



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^ I think that people get randomly selected. It's a marketing thing. I don't have any problem with it - the only thing that always annoys me with these big releases is that the finished album sits on a shelf for several months before it is released.Technically he could have released it weeks ago, as a download. But of course that's bad for business ... got to make the deluxe edition box set 360g transparent vinyl crowd happy first.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^So only the elite, or those with an abundance of moolah, get an invite?

Surround mix for disc folks, and super wuper duper pink frost limited edition LP release?

If you would have clicked on his website you'd see it's by registration/invitation only, no need to pay anything. My wallet is empty right now so an abundance of moolah is anything more than zero......I am sure you qualify as having an abundance of moolah.
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^Your funny, Jose. As you should know by now, I'm retired and live on a fixed income. My monthly income is less than what you spent on your turntable cartridge.
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SW Harmony Codex Interview, Part 1

Interesting reply on touring.....

When it comes to touring this album, what do you envision?

I’m thinking in terms of not touring, but instead doing residencies in a few towns. The reason I would want to go that way is because I think I would want to try and create some kind of immersive equivalent in a concert context. So that the album—that kind of immersive quality the album has—would be transposed to the concert environment. I suppose Kate Bush-style in that respect, except in a smaller venue. Not like a Hammersmith Apollo, like in a small 500, 600 seat place. Have light installation projections. Have spatial audio. Maybe have the audience situated among the musicians? I don’t know. But to me, the idea of just going on tour and…there’s a two-dimensional band up on stage and the audience are out there looking up at this two-dimensional spectacle, I’m not massively interested or inspired by that. And I don’t think this album would apply itself very well to that. I think it needs something different. So, I’m just at the beginning of that process of thinking about that.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


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So that the album—that kind of immersive quality the album has—would be transposed to the concert environment. I suppose Kate Bush-style in that respect, except in a smaller venue. Not like a Hammersmith Apollo, like in a small 500, 600 seat place. Have light installation projections. Have spatial audio. 

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Nice idea ... but you really think he's gonna do concerts with such a small audience and only get paid nickels and dimes? Either that or each ticket will be at least a thousand each, plus half for the company selling the tickets ... and only a handful will be there. 

Honestly, the idea is fine, and cool, but his work is not "theater" and has never been until the Ninet piece. I am not sure he can duplicate what she did ... and his audience thing is honorable, and trying to be more theatrical about it, but in the end, his commercial side is not going to lose, unless he wants to do a tour that loses millions and millions ... and almost literally destroys the band as has happened before.

The residency thing is ... hard to deal with ... I guess that Las Vegas is on his RADAR, since LV will pay as much as he wants and then he can do this ... but I doubt that most of us will go to it, and not hear anything else from before ... at some point, I would think many of us will not like the new stuff or material and decide to leave.

I'm not sure he can do this the way he thinks without Las Vegas ... where, at least, he can take money home!
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