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Topic: SW~Harmony Codex
Posted By: Catcher10
Subject: SW~Harmony Codex
Date Posted: August 15 2023 at 14:58
Taken from the Steve Hoffman Forums, thread I have been following. 

"This appears to be the listing for the Deluxe/Special/whatever edition :

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CB537PM5/ref=sr_1_3?qid=1692082058&refinements=p_32%3ASteven+Wilson&s=music&sr=1-3&tag=shtv.france-21" rel="nofollow - https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CB537PM5...refinements=p_32:Steven+Wilson&s=music&sr=1-3

Track listings below (I assume Disc 2 is demos/unused tracks. I don't know what to make of Disc 3 !)

Disque : 1
1 Inclination
2 What Life Brings
3 Economies of Scale
4 Impossible Tightrope
5 Rock Bottom
6 Beautiful Scarecrow
7 The Harmony Codex
8 Time Is Running Out
9 Actual Brutal Facts
10 Staircase

Disque : 2
1 Codex Theme #7
2 Economies of Scale
3 Codex Theme #9
4 Inclination
5 Impossible Tightrope
6 Codex Theme #6
7 Beautiful Scarecrow
8 Codex Theme #8
9 Time Is Running Out
10 Staircase
11 Codex Theme #3
12 What Life Brings
13 The Harmony Codex
14 Staircase

Disque : 3
1 Inclination
2 Inclination
3 Inclination
4 Inclination
5 Inclination
6 Inclination
7 What Life Brings
8 What Life Brings
9 What Life Brings
10 What Life Brings
11 What Life Brings
12 What Life Brings
13 Economies of Scale
14 Economies of Scale
15 Economies of Scale
16 Economies of Scale
17 Economies of Scale
18 Economies of Scale
19 Impossible Tightrope
20 Impossible Tightrope
21 Impossible Tightrope
22 Impossible Tightrope
23 Impossible Tightrope
24 Impossible Tightrope
25 Rock Bottom
26 Rock Bottom
27 Rock Bottom
28 Rock Bottom
29 Rock Bottom
30 Rock Bottom
31 Beautiful Scarecrow
32 Beautiful Scarecrow
33 Beautiful Scarecrow
34 Beautiful Scarecrow
35 Beautiful Scarecrow
36 Beautiful Scarecrow
37 The Harmony Codex
38 The Harmony Codex
39 The Harmony Codex
40 The Harmony Codex
41 The Harmony Codex
42 The Harmony Codex
43 Time Is Running Out
44 Time Is Running Out
45 Time Is Running Out
46 Time Is Running Out
47 Time Is Running Out
48 Time Is Running Out
49 Actual Brutal Facts
50 Actual Brutal Facts
51 Actual Brutal Facts
52 Actual Brutal Facts
53 Actual Brutal Facts
54 Actual Brutal Facts
55 Staircase
56 Staircase
57 Staircase
58 Staircase
59 Staircase
60 Staircase
61 Economies of Scale
62 The Harmony Codex" 


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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 15 2023 at 16:14
new stuff ?


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 16 2023 at 12:39
Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

new stuff ?

Harmony Codex is his new album coming out this year. He made an announcement back in 2022 about a new project, the album titled was revealed April 2022.....


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 18 2023 at 17:10
https://www.reddit.com/r/stevenwilson/comments/15un5nq/ninet_tayeb_the_harmony_codex/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button" rel="nofollow - SW and Ninet

This should be really good!!

https://theharmonycodex.com/" rel="nofollow - https://theharmonycodex.com/


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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 18 2023 at 18:01
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

new stuff ?


Harmony Codex is his new album coming out this year. He made an announcement back in 2022 about a new project, the album titled was revealed April 2022.....

Thanks :-)


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 19 2023 at 09:44
Unfortunately often the amount of marketing hype about a new release is inversely related with the quality …

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 20 2023 at 11:51
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/stevenwilson/comments/15un5nq/ninet_tayeb_the_harmony_codex/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button" rel="nofollow - SW and Ninet

This should be really good!!

https://theharmonycodex.com/" rel="nofollow - https://theharmonycodex.com/

Hi,

Ninet is magnificent on that one song in a SW album, and my thoughts were, specially for PT, that his ability to take the material into a more emotional spot as Ninet did, is not something that PT can do, or will do, but the sad thing is that what would (in my book) be the best piece in that album (with Ninet), is something that has not been ignored. It probably took him a while to figure it out, but if this works, it should be magnificent.

Advanced notes on a new something or other is not much of an indication about anything. There are very few artists out there that never tell you anything ... and they will, at least, tell you that they are doing something. But already having a title, is a bit strange ... and probably limiting to the context of the whole idea. 

We'll see in a month or two.


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Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 14:24
Can't wait to hear his new material. IMO, the idea of a more ambitious The Future Bites is awesome and opens to many awesome possibilities. I don't expect anything with HCE or CC quality, but I'm glad for now this side of his is not abandoned and he can be more ambitious with his solo material.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 15:29
Originally posted by Deadwing Deadwing wrote:

Can't wait to hear his new material. IMO, the idea of a more ambitious The Future Bites is awesome and opens to many awesome possibilities. I don't expect anything with HCE or CC quality, but I'm glad for now this side of his is not abandoned and he can be more ambitious with his solo material.
I tend to agree.......I've read somewhere, similar to HCE. He's doing these listening events in spatial audio, the feedback has been mainly about the sonic experience, although I am getting the sense the content is pretty striking.
The London event feedback
https://stevenwilsonhq.com/the-harmony-codex-listening-event-in-london/" rel="nofollow - https://stevenwilsonhq.com/the-harmony-codex-listening-event-in-london/


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 03:40
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

...He's doing these listening events in spatial audio, the feedback has been mainly about the sonic experience, although I am getting the sense the content is pretty striking.
...

Hi,

Not very original I don't think. Heck, Eno was doing this kind of stuff 40 years ago ... and many thought he was being pretentious! At least, it involved a lot of art ... whereas SW's bit on that video might not be considered art as those were self pictures. Touched up, of course in the SW style!


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 04:44
Originally posted by Deadwing Deadwing wrote:

Can't wait to hear his new material. IMO, the idea of a more ambitious The Future Bites is awesome and opens to many awesome possibilities. I don't expect anything with HCE or CC quality, but I'm glad for now this side of his is not abandoned and he can be more ambitious with his solo material.

I absolutely CAN wait to hear it. The more marketing hype he generates, the more I'm focusing on the many, many artists who are releasing great music right now, without the hype.


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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 05:07
Will most definitely not check this out.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 10:38
Boy......everyone's cereal must have had horse pee in it LOL. It's all good, I generally don't listen to any pre-released songs, and SW has yet to do that with this new album other than these select listening events which are by invitation only.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 11:27
^So only the elite, or those with an abundance of moolah, get an invite?

Surround mix for disc folks, and super wuper duper pink frost limited edition LP release?



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 12:12
^ I think that people get randomly selected. It's a marketing thing. I don't have any problem with it - the only thing that always annoys me with these big releases is that the finished album sits on a shelf for several months before it is released.Technically he could have released it weeks ago, as a download. But of course that's bad for business ... got to make the deluxe edition box set 360g transparent vinyl crowd happy first.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 16:41
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^So only the elite, or those with an abundance of moolah, get an invite?

Surround mix for disc folks, and super wuper duper pink frost limited edition LP release?

If you would have clicked on his website you'd see it's by registration/invitation only, no need to pay anything. My wallet is empty right now so an abundance of moolah is anything more than zero......I am sure you qualify as having an abundance of moolah.


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 23 2023 at 17:10
^Your funny, Jose. As you should know by now, I'm retired and live on a fixed income. My monthly income is less than what you spent on your turntable cartridge.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 24 2023 at 10:41
Well I will be retired at some point as well and on fixed income.......I save up for all my gear, only way I can do it. And yea I am pretty funny......Cool

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 31 2023 at 12:01
https://www.undertheradarmag.com/interviews/steven_wilson_on_the_harmony_codex_part_1" rel="nofollow - SW Harmony Codex Interview, Part 1

Interesting reply on touring.....

When it comes to touring this album, what do you envision?

I’m thinking in terms of not touring, but instead doing residencies in a few towns. The reason I would want to go that way is because I think I would want to try and create some kind of immersive equivalent in a concert context. So that the album—that kind of immersive quality the album has—would be transposed to the concert environment. I suppose Kate Bush-style in that respect, except in a smaller venue. Not like a Hammersmith Apollo, like in a small 500, 600 seat place. Have light installation projections. Have spatial audio. Maybe have the audience situated among the musicians? I don’t know. But to me, the idea of just going on tour and…there’s a two-dimensional band up on stage and the audience are out there looking up at this two-dimensional spectacle, I’m not massively interested or inspired by that. And I don’t think this album would apply itself very well to that. I think it needs something different. So, I’m just at the beginning of that process of thinking about that.



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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 31 2023 at 18:01
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


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So that the album—that kind of immersive quality the album has—would be transposed to the concert environment. I suppose Kate Bush-style in that respect, except in a smaller venue. Not like a Hammersmith Apollo, like in a small 500, 600 seat place. Have light installation projections. Have spatial audio. 

...

Hi,


Nice idea ... but you really think he's gonna do concerts with such a small audience and only get paid nickels and dimes? Either that or each ticket will be at least a thousand each, plus half for the company selling the tickets ... and only a handful will be there. 

Honestly, the idea is fine, and cool, but his work is not "theater" and has never been until the Ninet piece. I am not sure he can duplicate what she did ... and his audience thing is honorable, and trying to be more theatrical about it, but in the end, his commercial side is not going to lose, unless he wants to do a tour that loses millions and millions ... and almost literally destroys the band as has happened before.

The residency thing is ... hard to deal with ... I guess that Las Vegas is on his RADAR, since LV will pay as much as he wants and then he can do this ... but I doubt that most of us will go to it, and not hear anything else from before ... at some point, I would think many of us will not like the new stuff or material and decide to leave.

I'm not sure he can do this the way he thinks without Las Vegas ... where, at least, he can take money home!



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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 01 2023 at 11:11
He's never mentioned Las Vegas, I'm not even sure that city has been a stop for him on past tours so not sure why you are bringing that up. 
I suspect this idea of residency will probably only be in the UK and probably very close to home for him.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 01 2023 at 11:19
Short snipet of Impossible Tightrope.......not too bad, looking forward to hearing the whole song



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 01 2023 at 12:41
^ Yes, definitely cool, and the video is great as well and fits the music.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 01 2023 at 16:13
Thumbs Up

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Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: September 04 2023 at 22:49
I agree with this... BIG TIME... The more hype, the less I care.  There's a lot of music coming out right now that is wonderful and isn't saturating the internet.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 05 2023 at 00:46
^ My strategy is to, while complaining about the hype, keep that separated from enjoying the music. 

BTW: The hype is reaching new heights of sillyness ... and what I find most interesting is that a lot of the hype is not created by SW or the label, but by the crowd. May I present to you, a reaction to the trailer to the pre-release of one of the tracks LOL



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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 05 2023 at 07:32
Here is the whole song and video…..This is very cool!!


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 05 2023 at 22:10
It's a good track imo


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 06 2023 at 11:36
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It's a good track imo
I agree with you....A mixture of genres.


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 06 2023 at 15:23
I think I would give that new track a 7/10. I think it could do with some better mixing. I feel like the bass should be louder; drums in the first half should be louder, second half just a nudge louder; the vocalizations could be a bit quieter in the mix; the keys solo is nice, but I feel it would have sounded better with a different keyboard (or VST or whatever he is using these days) - imagine what that solo would have sounded like on a Minimoog or an ARP (or the equivalent VST). The keyboard he chose is neat sounding, but it doesn't feel right for this song. It's not a bad song. It just seems like it needs more work. Sorry for being so pedantic. I sometimes like to pick things apart. Embarrassed

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 07 2023 at 09:23
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I think I would give that new track a 7/10. I think it could do with some better mixing. I feel like the bass should be louder; drums in the first half should be louder, second half just a nudge louder; the vocalizations could be a bit quieter in the mix; the keys solo is nice, but I feel it would have sounded better with a different keyboard (or VST or whatever he is using these days) - imagine what that solo would have sounded like on a Minimoog or an ARP (or the equivalent VST). The keyboard he chose is neat sounding, but it doesn't feel right for this song. It's not a bad song. It just seems like it needs more work. Sorry for being so pedantic. I sometimes like to pick things apart. Embarrassed

These boxes are filled with commas and that makes me smile.
Good stuff.......As far as the audio mix, it's phuquing YouTube, listening thru phone or laptop and then the compression that YouTube does to files I'm not surprised. I'll await my LP version and I suspect it will sound pretty amazing as Steven Wilson usually creates a very pronounced low end mix, he knows low frequency is the heart of music.
I think what you are honing in on is the fact/possibility that he has played all the instruments on this album, I'm not sure what he is playing as I've not seen a list of musicians on the album. I suspect all the keys, at least synth, are played by him as well guitars and bass......but we will see.
I'm not the biggest fan of this, I much prefer a proper band rather than a one man gig. Take for example Insurgentes and Grace For Drowning, regardless of the different style of music as compared to last album The Future Bites, to me those earlier albums have a more robust sound and I think it's due to having a band rather than a one man show as well as the techno stuff feeding a much lighter sense of music prowess. 

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 07 2023 at 10:07
I've been listening to it via Apple (''lossless'') although my Sonos speaker didn't like it and spat it back at me!


Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: September 07 2023 at 16:24
Just gave "Impossible Tightrope" a couple listens. Putting aside The Future Bites this is some of his best work in years and shows Wilson stretching his wings creatively in ways we haven't really seen him do in his music before. Granted, some of it is kinds of "conventional" prog that while common haven't been his bag previously (especially the wonderful sax work) but he and his backing musicians put an excellent and eclectic spin on it. Maybe The Harmony Codex will turn out to be a more modernist sibling to The Raven in that sense.

I'm certainly curious as to exactly who among the announced "guests" and/or backing musicians are playing where. Longtime associates Craig Blundell on drums and Adam Holzman on keys are in the mix, plus the drummers from Interpol and Kneebody. Jack Dangers is doing some keys as well. What and how much have they done? I can only assume that Blundell and Holzman likely contributed to "Impossible Tightrope". And who exactly laid down that sax?


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 08 2023 at 11:49
Originally posted by LearsFool LearsFool wrote:

Just gave "Impossible Tightrope" a couple listens. Putting aside The Future Bites this is some of his best work in years and shows Wilson stretching his wings creatively in ways we haven't really seen him do in his music before. Granted, some of it is kinds of "conventional" prog that while common haven't been his bag previously (especially the wonderful sax work) but he and his backing musicians put an excellent and eclectic spin on it. Maybe The Harmony Codex will turn out to be a more modernist sibling to The Raven in that sense.

I'm certainly curious as to exactly who among the announced "guests" and/or backing musicians are playing where. Longtime associates Craig Blundell on drums and Adam Holzman on keys are in the mix, plus the drummers from Interpol and Kneebody. Jack Dangers is doing some keys as well. What and how much have they done? I can only assume that Blundell and Holzman likely contributed to "Impossible Tightrope". And who exactly laid down that sax?
I believe Theo Travis is the brass player for SW's work usually...


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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: September 08 2023 at 23:24
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by LearsFool LearsFool wrote:

Just gave "Impossible Tightrope" a couple listens. Putting aside The Future Bites this is some of his best work in years and shows Wilson stretching his wings creatively in ways we haven't really seen him do in his music before. Granted, some of it is kinds of "conventional" prog that while common haven't been his bag previously (especially the wonderful sax work) but he and his backing musicians put an excellent and eclectic spin on it. Maybe The Harmony Codex will turn out to be a more modernist sibling to The Raven in that sense.

I'm certainly curious as to exactly who among the announced "guests" and/or backing musicians are playing where. Longtime associates Craig Blundell on drums and Adam Holzman on keys are in the mix, plus the drummers from Interpol and Kneebody. Jack Dangers is doing some keys as well. What and how much have they done? I can only assume that Blundell and Holzman likely contributed to "Impossible Tightrope". And who exactly laid down that sax?
I believe Theo Travis is the brass player for SW's work usually...

Good point. I did finally stumble upon https://www.loudersound.com/news/steven-wilson-shares-ten-minute-long-new-track-impossible-tightrope" rel="nofollow - a detailed list of who played on "Impossible Tightrope" and there are many, with Travis indeed doing brass. Holzman did contribute electric piano, but Nate Wood of Kneebody drummed instead of Blundell. There's also violinist Ben Coleman and three guitarists not counting Wilson: Nicko Tsonev, David Kollar (ambient guitar), and Lee Harris (psychedelic guitar). Wilson's contributions include bass, harp (!), Solina strings, Moog, ARP 2600, Cobalt 8, Rhodes, and Hammond organ.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 09 2023 at 08:42


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 13 2023 at 17:39
Yea Ninet is the star of this one....Her vocals are striking. The song is just fine, I'm indifferent about it. SW should not do these videos where he is suppose to act out something.....Prog people don't do this well at all LOL



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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 14 2023 at 03:42
It's strange because it isn't the style of music I gravitate to but of the three released so far, I like Rock Bottom better than the other two. I'm weird. Embarrassed

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 14 2023 at 05:03
I like all three. I'm beginning to think that I'll enjoy the album more than its parts. That could happen if they complement each other nicely. I'm generally a big fan of contrasts, be it food, movies, visual art or music Smile

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Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: September 14 2023 at 12:08
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Yea Ninet is the star of this one....Her vocals are striking. The song is just fine, I'm indifferent about it. SW should not do these videos where he is suppose to act out something.....Prog people don't do this well at all LOL


Indeed. I did not mind the time when you saw very little of the members in PT and SW solo. At first I wondered if the video for Nowhere Now from TTB was a joke.

He’s got some great music videos to his name, but they don’t feature himself.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 14 2023 at 17:50
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It's strange because it isn't the style of music I gravitate to but of the three released so far, I like Rock Bottom better than the other two. I'm weird. Embarrassed
I'm kinda there too....I assume in the context of the whole album I will probably like this song more. I am really hoping when he tours this album that he gets Ninet to open his show and she can partake in this song on stage with him.
She was amazing on TTB tour, a huge stage presence. Even my spousal unit became a big Ninet fan, bought her shirt at the show and she never gets shirts.

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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: September 17 2023 at 00:23
Wow! I'm a bit late to "Rock Bottom" like I usually am to new music. But this is not only a beautiful cut but one that reinvents the kind of early 2000s post-grunge butt rock-alt rock sound into something truly beautiful and profound. I've been desperately waiting for SWilson to work with the mighty Ninet Tayeb in a way that truly emphasized her abilities, artistry, and VOICE to their maximum potential and it is HERE. Or at least this is part of what her voice can be, over the next decade at least I hope that we will see more of this and MORE from her. But to turn around to Mr. Wilson and his upcoming solo record that I have the utmost expectations for recently, he has given Tayeb a stunning and gorgeous soundscape anchored by some of his most powerful personal vocalizations, which he crucially harmonizes with. The solo here - which I can only presume is him at some of his more restrained and Pink Floyd inspired, as in his aesthetically whiplash youth - is a fitting and wonderful send-off. I will hazard a guess that The Harmony Codex will continue this 21st Century prog brilliance into grand if not better ends... but we will obviously have to see and hear soon.

I just get ever more excited by his singles this year.


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 17 2023 at 02:15
^ That solo is not SW though - it’s Niko Tsonev. Beautiful!

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: September 17 2023 at 10:08
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ That solo is not SW though - it’s Niko Tsonev. Beautiful!

Did Wilson circle back to Niko?  If so, I'm intrigued. Wink  


Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: September 17 2023 at 14:06
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ That solo is not SW though - it’s Niko Tsonev. Beautiful!

Ah, my mistake. Tsonev was excellent!


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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: September 20 2023 at 03:55
As to "What Life Brings": another fantastic cut, at first glance one of Swilson's better takes on the particular prog pop idiom he's had a lot of solo work done in during and since the literally half-assed To The Bone. It is a thing of elevated and restrained beauty, a song about love and subsequent loss that shows Wilson deftly simplifying his style rather than blowing it into his usual brobdingnagian scale (and often similarly gigantic excellence, mind you). This cut has an obvious companion piece with PT's "Harridan", which is itself (as I have said on this site already) a tis-better-to-have-loved-and-lost theme, if there done with some venom for the loved to match the jackknife metal-informed instrumentals. This also may just be the best music video associated with The Harmony Codex, dueling with the interplay of Steven and Ninet for "Rock Bottom", which shows not only the loved but the lover dancing together in the wake of a likely fatal car accident in the vein of the mighty Yves Tumor's instant classic "Kerosene" MV. Lust and potential drip from our couple as Mr. Wilson observes and directly addresses us proghead listeners/watchers with the tender thoughts of our star-crossed narrator.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 20 2023 at 07:01
I do like ''What Life Begins'' a lot but ''Rock Bottom'' made me think too much of Kate Bush/Peter Gabriel  ''Don't give up''. Wilson likes to have references to 80's stuff he is fond of, certainly don't blame him for that but he isn't reinventing the wheel here. Overall so far I'm enjoying the 4 tracks available and very nice variety of ideas and styles. Nothing else released this year will be anything like it I predict.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 11:56
After a few days of listening to these songs, I'm really intrigued by the album as a whole and how it will wrap them altogether in a cohesive listening experience. I think he has released a nice variety of songs to preview.

This is a long interview video, but I found it very entertaining. Rob Moore's two SW interviews are really good, this is the latest one

 


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 22:13
Yeah that seems to be permanently on my list but it's 2 hours and I get fed up with the number of adverts thrown at me so I'm not sure I'll bother to be honest. I did however watch the video to Impossible Tightrope and that is very nicely done.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 22 2023 at 10:29
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Yeah that seems to be permanently on my list but it's 2 hours and I get fed up with the number of adverts thrown at me so I'm not sure I'll bother to be honest. I did however watch the video to Impossible Tightrope and that is very nicely done.
Totally!!! I tend to watch these in 2-3 sessions, not because of the adverts. I mean normal TV has TONS of commercials.....A 60 minute program is really only about 21 minutes of the actual program Big smile


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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 08:56
The double orange vinyl version arrived today in the post. I won't be able to play just yet though - but I can't wait.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 12:05
Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

The double orange vinyl version arrived today in the post. I won't be able to play just yet though - but I can't wait.
I ordered the same, mine left Los Angeles yesterday and is in transit.


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Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 03:24
First listen and it's his best solo effort since HCE indeed. Reminds me a lot of old PT as well with TFB flavour in it. I would say only HCE and GfD are better, although I've never been much a fan of either Insurgentes or Raven.


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 03:29
Have ordered the standard CD version. 

Looking forward to hearing it. Smile


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 10:44
I'm not sure what to make of it. It feels like Wilson's chill out album although Staircase is very good and maybe the only thing that points to Porcupine Tree. Nothing is bad on it (or annoying for that matter) but I'm not sure that's a great recommendation. 


Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 08:00
playing through several times now.  agreed as stated above - best since HCE.  much better than future bites for certain.


Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 10:48
Well, after being through the Harmony Codex twice...  
(Disclaimer:  I think Hand Cannot Erase and To The Bone are my favorites.  So probably more of the pop leaning taste with Wilson)..
I DO like Harmony Codex better than Future Bites.  Probably all the manufactured hype for Future Bites ruined that for me.  The opening tracks (Inclination, What Life Brings, Economies of Scale, and Impossible Tightrope) are winners for me.  But the following opinion may get me lynched LOL.  I am not a fan on Ninet's voice.  She has this vocal frying thing going on that really grates on my nerves.  Makes me wanna sit here and clear my throat.  And also let's face it, a Steven Wilson album isn't a pick-me-up.  He's usually dark and melancholy.  This is no different.

In other news.  There's a lot of other new(er/ish) releases that are providing better musical returns.  The new Animal Collective album ("Isn't it now?") has a 21 minute long song in it that is amazing.  I liken it to their "Supper's Ready".  The forthcoming album from Trevor Rabin has some amazing early releases on it.  And I'm still enjoying Jah Wobble's "A Brief History of Now" album.  So there's plenty of good music coming out this season.  Wilson's is one of many.

Also still mourning the loss of Chris Arduser (62 yrs old) from Adrian Belew and Rob Fetter's, Bears band.  His solo stuff was really unique and charming.  Sad loss. Cry


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 11:00
I loved TTB and respected TFB so THC is alright for me. "Impossible Tightrope" is kinda pointless and very fillery, "Time Is Running Out" leaves me cold, "Rock Bottom" is too cliche and over-the-top with drama, plus the spoken word sections in other tracks are a bit irritating. But otherwise it's a solid effort, even a top-3 one in my book:

7. Hand. Cannot. Erase.
6. Grace for Drowning
5. The Raven That Refused to Sing
4. The Future Bites
3. The Harmony Codex
2. Insurgentes
1. To the Bone


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 12:32
My 2-LP set is arriving today.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 15:54
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

I loved TTB and respected TFB so THC is alright for me. "Impossible Tightrope" is kinda pointless and very fillery, "Time Is Running Out" leaves me cold, "Rock Bottom" is too cliche and over-the-top with drama, plus the spoken word sections in other tracks are a bit irritating. But otherwise it's a solid effort, even a top-3 one in my book:

7. Hand. Cannot. Erase.
6. Grace for Drowning
5. The Raven That Refused to Sing
4. The Future Bites
3. The Harmony Codex
2. Insurgentes
1. To the Bone

So TTB is the best, and HCE is the worst?


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 18:35
pretty much


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 19:26
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

I loved TTB and respected TFB so THC is alright for me. "Impossible Tightrope" is kinda pointless and very fillery, "Time Is Running Out" leaves me cold, "Rock Bottom" is too cliche and over-the-top with drama, plus the spoken word sections in other tracks are a bit irritating. But otherwise it's a solid effort, even a top-3 one in my book:

7. Hand. Cannot. Erase.
6. Grace for Drowning
5. The Raven That Refused to Sing
4. The Future Bites
3. The Harmony Codex
2. Insurgentes
1. To the Bone

This is almost the opposite of my list Confused

1. Hand. Cannot. Erase
2. Grace for Drowning
3. The Raven That Refused to Sing
4. Insurgentes
5. The Harmony Codex
6. To the Bone
99999999999999999999999999. The Future Bites


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 05:41
1. Raven *****
2. GFD *****
3. Insurgentes ****
4. HCE ****
5. To The Bone ***
6. The Harmony Codex ***
7. The Future Bites **


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 06:58
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

1. Raven *****
2. GFD *****
3. Insurgentes ****
4. HCE ****
5. To The Bone ***
6. The Harmony Codex ***
7. The Future Bites **

I agree completely. 


Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 07:00
1. Hand. Cannot. Erase. *****
2. Grace for Drowning *****
3. The Harmony Codex *****
4. The Raven That Refused to Sing ****
5. The Future Bites ****
6. To the Bone ****
7. Insurgentes ***


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 02 2023 at 10:18
Received on Saturday and have spun 2x now. A very good to excellent record, I enjoy many of the songs with a couple are just ok. I am a fan of Ninet so including her vocals is great on a few songs, her and her husband wrote and produced Rock Bottom. Seems something new by Steven to allow this on one of his solo records.
It's a different record with a lot of different genre flavors, I think it is very appealing. Since some are ranking his albums here's my thought, for today Big smile

1. The Raven...
2. HCE
3. GFD
4. Insurgentes
5. THC
6. TTB
7. TFB



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