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Marcelo
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Topic: Most representative prog track Posted: April 09 2004 at 10:47 |
Imagine you are at home with a friend who isn't into prog music, and you want to explain him what progressive music is. You think that the better way is giving him a listening, but you have just few minutes. Which are the songs you choose to demonstrate what prog genre means?
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Marcelo
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 10:50 |
I would begin with Genesis' "Firth of Fifth" and then Shylock's "Ile de Fievre".
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 11:21 |
"Roundabout" or "All Good People" from Yes.
"Time is Right" by Manfred Mann's Earthband.
I don't want to scare them off with anything too complex. You have to have a song that immediately sticks, get them humming the chorus. Careful of odd-metered stuff. If they can't tap their foot, they won't get it.
Of course, if they are musicians, you can go for something which they will appreciate. I don't know how many drummers I've got into Prog with Bruford's drumming technique. Guitar players enjoy Howe's "Mood for a Day" or Holdsworth's intro to "Nevermore."
I've also created a few CD's of "various artists" stuff to give them an overview. I try to keep it upbeat, not too complex, and always with vocals. There are not a lot of people who like instrumental music. I love it, but that not the issue, is it?
Since Prog tunes are long and the CD-R is only 80 minutes, give them a good cross section of artists and songs you think THEY may like. You've got to catch there interest, not show them the stuff you like first. That comes second.
Hopefully you've just created a proghole and not lost a friend.
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Scafell
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 11:53 |
Renaissance Live at Carnegie Hall - wouldn't have to utter a word - the epitome of all that's good in prog.
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Stormcrow
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 12:16 |
Kay. If I had an hour I'd regale them with "Roundabout", "Supper's Ready", "In The Court Of The Crimson King", "Xanadu" and "Minstrel In The Gallery".
Then while they were sitting there glassy-eyed, I'd try to explain what those songs had in common.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 13:02 |
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benny bouncer
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:22 |
danbo....i'd agree with Roundabout" or "All Good People" from Yes. and i'd also include Fanfare For The Common Man or Tarkus from ELP!!!!!!!!!!
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diddy
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:28 |
Hmmm how about Lady Fantasy by Camel?
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If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear...
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raggy
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:46 |
Time (Dark side of the moon), Awaken (g4t1), Musical Box (nursery cryme). That's what did it for me.
Then Firth of Fifth, Echo's and if there was time, the Icon (Utopia).
Or maybe Six Wives, Animals and Angels Egg (GonG) in their entirity.
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diddy
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:53 |
Other suggestion: I'm listening to Jördrok by Anglagard right now...it could be a good one too
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If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear...
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richardh
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 16:04 |
I would start with:
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
followed by:
Genesis - Suppers Ready
and then:
ELP - Tarkus (live version)
finishing with:
Yes - Close To The Edge
Take no prisoners!!!
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 16:07 |
I`d go with the first Crimson album. If someone doesn`t like that it`s unlikely they will like anything else by Yes, Genesis, ELP etc. and forget about Gentle Giant.
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 17:30 |
Ease them in with Camel - First album is a good choice, tho' Snow Goose might be better - especially if the person has classical pretensions. DSOTM is something everyone's got, so Echoes from Meddle might convince them that they're into prog. Next, play the Marillion Hammersmith Odeon concert from 1984 - available on BBC transcript. If they're still with you - and they should be, they're ready for Supper's Ready. Don't skip Horizons, though! Lastly, play Ship Arriving Too Late (Zappa). Now they should be ready for anything - yes, even GG!
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 17:36 |
One track is not enough to illustrate all the diversity of prog music...not an easy task to answer you... I will give my response soon
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corbet
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Posted: April 09 2004 at 21:04 |
Mekanik Kommandoh by MAGMA!
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well, maybe not.
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Hammar
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Posted: April 10 2004 at 09:59 |
I agree with "firth of fifth"! The track has all the elements that I love in pure prog! "Starless" on Red - KC is in the same vein. If this turns out positive I will follow up with "nine feet underground" by Caravan. Representative prog for sure! Ah, I love that one...
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Posted: April 10 2004 at 10:05 |
corbet wrote:
Mekanik Kommandoh by MAGMA!
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well, maybe not.
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I think this would disgust them from prog rather than make them want to dig further ! Submit them instead something lighter and more accessible, such as Yes' "And you and I" for the seventies, Marillion's "Heart of Lothian" for the eighties, Echolyn's "Currents of me" and Dream Theater's "Raising the knife" for the nineties.
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Paco Fox
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 03:02 |
I've done it recently, with the Locanda Della Fate song 'Force le Luciolle...'. Although it would depend on wich friend I'm talking to. For example, there's no doubt I would be Renaissance (maybe 'A song for all seasons') or Mostly Autumn ('Shrinking Violet' probably) if the friend is a woman.
Although it's better to try to convince them using their own experiences. Does he like the Beatles?, play 'A day in the Life'. Does he like Dire Straits?, play Telegraph Road. Is he/she a Queen fan?, then Bohemian Rhapsody can do it. Does he like Justin Timberlake? Oooopssss!
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 04:42 |
I'd try 21st Century Schizoid Man. I remember hearing that for the first time (I downloaded it from the website and bought the album soon after). I was simply AMAZED!
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The Analog Kid
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 10:21 |
Something from the bigger bands, I geuss.
Yes - Yours is no disgrace
Rush - Xanadu
Pink Floyd - Shine on
Genesis - The Musical box
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