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    Posted: May 08 2023 at 10:27
We had the same kind of discussion not so long ago: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=130792
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ Easy:



Hi,

Nice. At least this list is more like it and enjoyable for its variety ... but it has a wonderful amount of very nice things deserving of mention.
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I've learned more about algorithms in the last couple of days than I ever learnt during five years of maths lessons at school. Tongue
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Originally posted by telefunk telefunk wrote:

As for ratings: I compare to absolute standards like Bach or Beatles...

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Time & a Word is an orchestral experiment that didn't entirely christalise. Thus it is my least favourite of the first three. Thereafter they nailed it good and hard!

As for ratings: I compare to absolute standards like Bach or Beatles, to name a select few. So practically nothing can attain 5 stars except Yes, Zappa and some other übergeniuses.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

[QUOTE=Cristi]
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The question now though is how did you manage to find five different top albums lists when I've only ever found one list for each year? Confused
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I tend to disregard these things, since "I was there", and had the album, which I bought immediately after I got "The Yes Album".

My biggest issue with reviews and ratings is that too many of them are done strictly by "preference", thus, something not being there is not a surprise. But anyone ... in the past 20 years, rating that album, and ranking it, is not likely to give it as good a review and ranking, as it might have had at the time, and place. I did not think the album was a "good" or "great" as "The Yes Album", but it got my ears ... but since I do not rank/rate things at all, I prefer to say that is is an enjoyable album ... another one of many that shows a band getting better and then all of a sudden explode with their next album.

If the rankings and ratings took on some more of the time and place, I might enjoy it much, but I am not sure that many of us here are time travelers. I fly, and time travel with all music, going as far back as Vivaldi ... not sure why earlier stuff doesn't do that for me, but it has the feeling that it is not exactly "music" as it became after the Albinoni's, and Vivaldi's and such.
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^ Yes, thanks to you, I now know how to get the album to number one (with no other albums in the chart) by manipulating the alcorhythm, or something like that. Tongue
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^ So, you know now how to get it on number 1! Wink

When you set the filters on a basic minimum (minimum ratings on 1, avg. rating on 1) the album even ends up on spot 154. When you prefer to select more "popular" prog and set - for example - the minimal ratings on 100, it ends op on #31...

It's up to...


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ Easy:

The Top 100 for 1969 is looking  a lot better already and I now know how to manipulate the statistics in such a way that the debut YES album is now at #4 in the chart - although the downside is that there are only four albums in the chart, so it's essentially  a Top 4.  Tongue



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^ Easy:

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Thanks for everyone's help in solving the mystery of the missing YES album, which also had the added benefit of me learning how to spell "ALGORITHM" - and not "algorhythm". Tongue
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

The lists here are defective

I’m a huge fan of the first two Yes albums

this whole thread is defective LOL

I also love early Yes. Time and a Word was one of the first Yes albums I listened to long ago, along with The Yes Album. Heart
Which reminds me that the debut YES album doesn't feature in PA's Top 100 Albums of 1969 either (it's at #120), so I'll have to do something about that by manipulating the algorithm until it produces the desired results, just like in politics. Wink



Edited by Psychedelic Paul - May 06 2023 at 10:34
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Manipulation of "alcoorithm"... Beer
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

The lists here are defective

I’m a huge fan of the first two Yes albums


this whole thread defective LOL

I also love early Yes. Time and a Word was one of the first Yes albums I listened to long ago, along with The Yes Album. Heart



The early Yes albums are incredible imho
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

The lists here are defective

I’m a huge fan of the first two Yes albums

this whole thread is defective LOL

I also love early Yes. Time and a Word was one of the first Yes albums I listened to long ago, along with The Yes Album. Heart


Edited by Cristi - May 06 2023 at 10:23
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The lists here are defective

I’m a huge fan of the first two Yes albums

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Manipulation of "alcoorithm"... Beer

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Bad alcoorithm
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


Two different lists - I get Asterix at 250 on your one Paul but Yes on suitkees' one. Don't know what the difference is though.

the lists look different, depends on how Minimum Number of Ratings is set. 
 


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

It's on 250. Look! Tongue
Now I'm confused. On my link it shows Asterix at #250. Confused


Two different lists - I get Asterix at 250 on your one Paul but Yes on suitkees' one. Don't know what the difference is though.
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