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^ nothing avant about Kaipa. Geek
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Originally posted by Dapper~Blueberries Dapper~Blueberries wrote:

Originally posted by rockrowb rockrowb wrote:

   Is there any piece of music where I can take the taste of these two sub-genres together?

Univers Zero (if you haven't heard them already) makes some nice avant prog chamber music. Their symphonic in more of a orchestral and chamber focused environment.

I would also recommend checking out After Crying's Megalázottak És Megszomorítottak.

I absolutely adore Univers Zero. This subgenre that I knew with Zappa became one of my favorites together with Univers Zero. I just looked at After Crying's Megalázottak És Megszomorítottak album and I absolutely loved it. Thank you so much. :>
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Originally posted by runciblemoon runciblemoon wrote:

Have you explored much Zeuhl yet? A lot of Zeuhl kind of splits the difference between the two, with big expansive, bombastic arrangements a la symph and dissonance, experimentation and jazz leanings a la avant-prog. "K.A." by Magma and "Mathematical Mother" by Universal Totem Orchestra would be good starting points.

As I said above, I found Mathematical Mother on the discarded site and I loved it. I knew about magma before, but I didn't wrap it up. I looked at their songs saying that there was such a group that went through it again recently and I don't know what exactly has changed, but I can say my mood these days for this subgenre and the group. For the last week, every time I tell my friends "Look what I'll show you", I introduced them to this group.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'd recommend ELP. It's a boring choice, I know, but when you think about it, they did have quite a few avant-garde sounding passages in their songs.
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Another fantastic choice just came to mind.
Czeslaw Niemen - Aerolit

ELP is definitely a great band. Especially tarkus is just great. However, as I discovered the group, it was extremely pleasant to find even a piano concerto. Aerolit, on the other hand, was a very good album that I happily added to my list. Thank you very much.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ nothing avant about Kaipa. Geek

I need to say, I agree. It did not feel very different in structure from symphonic progs, in which the guitar reminds itself of its existence by being more audible than soft. Although it wasn't the one I was looking for because I love the symphonic prog, it was a suggestion I happily used.
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Originally posted by rockrowb rockrowb wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ nothing avant about Kaipa. Geek

I need to say, I agree. It did not feel very different in structure from symphonic progs, in which the guitar reminds itself of its existence by being more audible than soft. Although it wasn't the one I was looking for because I love the symphonic prog, it was a suggestion I happily used.


well, old Kaipa is great, despite being in a language i don't understand. TongueLOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ nothing avant about Kaipa. Geek

Knowing my tastes in music, if Kaipa were listed as Avant Prog, then I doubt if I would've recommended them. Tongue
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Another fantastic choice just came to mind.
Czeslaw Niemen - Aerolit

Great album, even it doesn't seem so Symphonic to me.
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