symphonic and avant prog
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Topic: symphonic and avant prog
Posted By: rockrowb
Subject: symphonic and avant prog
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 06:04
| Although I listen to many prog sub-genre, my favorites are symphonic prog and avant prog. Symphonic prog is a subgenre that always makes me say, this is what I expect from a perfect music. Avant prog, on the other hand, is a genre that I love, along with avant jazz, which is perfect imperfection. yes and zappa are also my favorite names in these genres. Is there any piece of music where I can take the taste of these two sub-genres together? |
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 09:30
I think Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers can be considered a mix of symphonic prog and avant prog. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
rockrowb wrote:Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 09:56
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The great thing about Rate Your Music's top album's chart is that the new filtering system means you can focus on multiple genres. Check this list that contains both symph and avant. http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:all,symphonic%2dprog,avant%2dprog/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:all,symphonic%2dprog,avant%2dprog/ Unfortunately only works if both genres are primary. Secondary ones as in Van Der Graaf Generator don't show up. The eclectic prog category on PA has many candidates
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 10:22
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Taal (F) - Skymind (2003), but that'll include some Prog Metal too ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 12:07
That's a great idea. I forgot all about that Emmanuel Booz album. Probably one of the best mixes of the two genres. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 15:58
Cool to see Oscillospira ranking that high. A very overlooked album. http://jgthirlwell.bandcamp.com/album/oscillospira" rel="nofollow - https://jgthirlwell.bandcamp.com/album/oscillospira By the way, the last album by Simon Steensland is also worth listening to: http://transubstansrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lets-go-to-hell" rel="nofollow - https://transubstansrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lets-go-to-hell
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 17:25
| Kurt Rongey 's music perhaps ? |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 04:13
You have just described King Crimson  . Larks Tongues in Aspic or Lizard should suit you well enough.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 10:14
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You'll find a whole smorgasbord of Avant Symphonic Prog in Sweden. Namely, Isidurs Bane, Kaipa, and Von Zamla as a starter course.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 13:49
 ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Dapper~Blueberries
Date Posted: April 20 2023 at 22:00
Univers Zero (if you haven't heard them already) makes some nice avant prog chamber music. Their symphonic in more of a orchestral and chamber focused environment. I would also recommend checking out After Crying's Megalázottak És Megszomorítottak. ------------- D~B |
Posted By: runciblemoon
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 02:50
| Have you explored much Zeuhl yet? A lot of Zeuhl kind of splits the difference between the two, with big expansive, bombastic arrangements a la symph and dissonance, experimentation and jazz leanings a la avant-prog. "K.A." by Magma and "Mathematical Mother" by Universal Totem Orchestra would be good starting points. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 02:53
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I'd recommend ELP. It's a boring choice, I know, but when you think about it, they did have quite a few avant-garde sounding passages in their songs. EDIT: Another fantastic choice just came to mind. Czeslaw Niemen - Aerolit
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Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 04:31
When my days were a bit busy, I couldn't write an answer even though I looked at all your suggestions, ehe sorry. I already knew that but my discovery was before I realized how awesome it was, so I couldn't value it because it was before I realized it. Thanks to your suggestion, I seem to have rediscovered it recently and it has become one of my favorite songs, thank you very much.
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Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 04:34
Ehe, again, I apologize for such a late reply. This was definitely a genius idea, although unfortunately it didn't work very well for my request, it helped me to have fun and discover a lot of new music by offering my other fantastic tricks. I used a few beauties from this page to enrich my list. Dans quel état j'erre and Mathematical mother were great albums. Thank you very much. |
Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 04:40
Again sorry for the late reply. This album was definitely not the answer I expected or had in mind, but I'm glad it wasn't because I realized that I wanted such an album as well. It was an answer that I didn't expect but needed, absolutely beautiful album, thank you very much. :> |
Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 04:55
Well, sorry again for the late reply. He has a very interesting style, unfortunately, since he is not the platform I can listen to, he does not have music that I can add to my daily music routine, but I listen to it from time to time. |
Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 04:59
Well, sorry again for the late reply. He has a very interesting style, unfortunately, since he is not the platform I can listen to, he does not have music that I can add to my daily music routine, but I listen to it from time to time. |
Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:08
Sorry for the late reply too. The band, the album and the song itself are absolute masterpieces. When I first opened Topic, I never thought that I could find what I was looking for in ecletic, but when I first looked at these messages, I had an enlightenment on this subject. It started to nudge me to start looking at what genres these pieces might actually be inspired by and what they might look like, and to actually think about discovering music through sub genre as well as grasping the sub genre of music. For this reason, this sebgenre event provided a different perspective for me, thank you very much. |
. Larks Tongues in Aspic or Lizard should suit you well enough.Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:20
Sorry for my late reply to you too. I loved Isildurs Bane's In disequilibrium, kaipa's vittjar and sattyg and Von Zamla's Zamlaranamma albums. I definitely felt the need to know Sweden better, especially for prog. Thank you so much. :> |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:24
^ nothing avant about Kaipa. 
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Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:34
I absolutely adore Univers Zero. This subgenre that I knew with Zappa became one of my favorites together with Univers Zero. I just looked at After Crying's Megalázottak És Megszomorítottak album and I absolutely loved it. Thank you so much. :> |
Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:41
As I said above, I found Mathematical Mother on the discarded site and I loved it. I knew about magma before, but I didn't wrap it up. I looked at their songs saying that there was such a group that went through it again recently and I don't know what exactly has changed, but I can say my mood these days for this subgenre and the group. For the last week, every time I tell my friends "Look what I'll show you", I introduced them to this group. |
Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:49
ELP is definitely a great band. Especially tarkus is just great. However, as I discovered the group, it was extremely pleasant to find even a piano concerto. Aerolit, on the other hand, was a very good album that I happily added to my list. Thank you very much. |
Posted By: rockrowb
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:56
I need to say, I agree. It did not feel very different in structure from symphonic progs, in which the guitar reminds itself of its existence by being more audible than soft. Although it wasn't the one I was looking for because I love the symphonic prog, it was a suggestion I happily used. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:59
well, old Kaipa is great, despite being in a language i don't understand.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 05:59
Knowing my tastes in music, if Kaipa were listed as Avant Prog, then I doubt if I would've recommended them.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 21 2023 at 06:26
Great album, even it doesn't seem so Symphonic to me. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |