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Psychedelic Paul
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Scottish band Pallas were one of the first Neo Prog bands to Arrive Alive on the music scene in 1981 with the release of their debut live album. Three years later, came their stunning magnum opus - The Sentinel - a science fiction concept album about a technologically advanced civilisation that brings itself to the brink of destruction, despite The Dreams of Men hoping for a better world. Sound familiar? The third Pallas album would drive The Wedge between those fans who wanted to hear another classic prog album and others who wanted a more modern sound. After all, this was the 1980's, so there's no accounting for taste. I know how we like to constantly Beat the Drum about the merits of prog here at PA and some of us even Live Our Lives from Moment to Moment every day in the progosphere. Like me for instance. We all have The Cross & the Cruc ible to bear in trying to convince prog non-believers they don't know what they're missing out on in life, but We Are Who We Are, and sadly, some non-believers may be destined to remain in The Blinding Darkness and be forever ignorant of the joyous wonders of prog until The Edge of Time itself.
1981: Pallas - Arrive Alive - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKo8IssrgKXQT8bL5pLgU7e 1984: Pallas - The Sentinel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLcpeZ4mTlBspQfPJcAsh94 1985: Pallas - Live from London - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpL12sYmE11TNFAeomohny3t 1986: Pallas - The Wedge - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpL1SOxFO_kYLBoAxRvhls0s 1998: Pallas - Beat the Drum - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJLqSNq8yYrMqdMFS1Q59rE 2000: Pallas - Live Our Lives - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLk4FYx-lTFtKixZ8AzEMVS 2001: Pallas - The Cross & the Crucible - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKSPwLBWy-Z8KH7dzCuO8Us 2003: Pallas - The Blinding Darkness - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJ7Pm0v6kms9sl79yUfbHL9 2005: Pallas - The Dreams of Men - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKOAiRHjfQmqbxzsT8KZtOE 2005: Pallas - The River Sessions 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLsR-uwsSOK148VqCXk4kv6 2005: Pallas - The River Sessions 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIqTr1GrIMq8nIVBboFp_hx 2008: Pallas - Moment to Moment - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpL0WVsX5l-lxd0Ck8gmtNVT 2009: Pallas - 8385 Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpL_cMAjplEixlxT4cs1GrRI 2011: Pallas - XXV - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKb_h3tMMdpRuZI6H-jgA-H 2014: Pallas - We Are Who We Are - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIhqorWU43BQM502YBvfunW 2019: Pallas - The Edge of Time - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJaD0QSr9lGkp1eKc2ZJDyA Edited by Psychedelic Paul - June 22 2023 at 11:25 |
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Year 2000: I had two albums Of Pallas (The Sentinel, The Cross And The Crucible). And recently, A friend of mine talk to me about this band. So I think I will buy again some CDs of them. Their music is very melodic, symphonic, sometimes heavy. Imho, far better than the new albums of Clepsydra and Collage.
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As I've mentioned before, I oddly did have a soft spot for Beat The Drum and saw them on tour supporting the album, but I've never really enjoyed any of their others that much... sorry!
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There will always be a place in my heart for both The Sentinel and The Wedge, in spite of both being available with different track listings when re-issued. Living far from Scotland, the comeback albums were a big surprise, but eventually left me hugely underwhelmed.
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Absolutely spooky. I was thinking about why wasn’t there a thread for. This incredible band. Thanks |
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How’s about a thread for Twelfth Night and. Other unsung heroes from the 80s.
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
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It's really not that spooky. I read your comment in another thread where you said there's never been a tribute thread for Pallas, which prompted me to create one.
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Thanks it’s great to know you read my posts |
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Mr. Psyche Paul.
What a great thread. Definitely Pallas deserve to sit in the higher echelon of Neo Prog bands. I absolutely adore “Beat The Drum” and Dreams Of Men. I’m fortunate enough to have the 2CD deluxe edition of that album. It is a beauty. After Alan Reed Left they got a bit heavier sounding with 25vvv. Good album, but not as magical as the first 2 I mentioned. Overall though. Pallas deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Arena, IQ, Galahad and Marillion. :) |
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I love Pallas to an enormas degree, Greame Murray is the lost and most unspoken of heros of bass guitar playing in prog imo
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^ Thanks! I like all of those four bands you mentioned.
My Neo Prog Top 12:- 1. Mostly Autumn 2. Magenta 3. Edison's Children 4. Like Wendy 5. Differences 6. Osiris 7. Pallas 8. Solstice 9. Pendragon 10. Arena 11. Abel Ganz 12. Marillion
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"titans"
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I’d like to explore more mostly autumn 🍂. I only have one album from them. Ghost light orchestra I think it is called and it has been ages since I listened to it. I’ll have to fix that. Haven’t explored Osiris or Abel Ganz. I still will always have a rabbit hole to go down. :) and |
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Top 120 Neo Prog albums of all time*, including five albums by Pallas.
1. 1987: Marillion - Clutching at Straws - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZSj97j2ofIKq5xlVB5BKBp 2. 1985: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZBUXGtztXiW6tnNWNsK3bp 3. 1983: Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYO9m_YiZnLF4CPjxkF2Cam 4. 1984: Marillion - Fugazi - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZ0oFXT8RUfpgr-I-2vYIXg 5. 1993: IQ - Ever - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLB2_ddDKrQ4Fk9qnxPVdzv 6. 2004: IQ - Dark Matter - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpI38CsnvYYrsnfDU5UI9q1y 7. 1996: Pendragon - The Masquerade Overture - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUPs8D55DP7GCTRSM2Pddw3UFZJmKYUfj 8. 1993: Pendragon - The Window of Life - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lDQUkhpfsA 9. 2003: Arena - Contagion - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_myT56-Ask1S37Ko9u6aP6zSoN0dun6zEM 10. 1997: IQ - Subterranea - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLU7KfuZgEwR7lPT2xNjU53 11. 2000: IQ - The Seventh House - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLUWnyys630jZzmjnExS-Eg 12. 2000: Arena - Immortal? - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nNXBB1FImtecf23QT_b8Ng7_ofG7SZ7vo 13. 1998: Arena - The Visitor - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lV_6WrC0UVywzQCkf4MdMfSPO3Ips2FCo 14. 2001: Pendragon - Not of This World - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXOXF3eG4urP2iz6VQmuE8bmIiB7auiAe 15. 2006: Frost* - Milliontown - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaTWy5lc3bZj0U04kFEArZ- 16. 1989: Marillion - Seasons End - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYdmEYiEd0bPyHFWtC8T9y7 17. 1990: Fish - Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mMVag1y9L4oOgK_gfnmIfQ6Kj3ceVmb9E 18. 2004: Magenta - Seven - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLxo1bk1tN9bv_UvqX5cGn1 19. 2007: Galahad - Empires Never Last - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lizRZ06AO-krwtJMVgiYaYqjQxMwPVuFU 20. 2001: Magenta - Revolutions - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIe3T-MrH1EqR942YNj9Pwr 21. 1982: Twelfth Night - Fact and Fiction - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLmIu5oMNBdFumgD1EAAyWe 22. Satellite - Into the Night 23. 1994: Collage - Moonshine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4huhmXEPujs 24. 1992: Jadis - More Than Meets the Eye - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lPr4-TZHXC7lEUtfDUCOWwF8mWlIHsXaU 25. 2009: Frequency - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpK9uvaexI1otGSLVcc7Zrn0 26. 1985: The Wake - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLVeQ_HAjc7ZEL4niJBvoZ6 27. Mystery - The World is a Game 28. 2008: Frost* - Experiments in Mass Appeal - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYQePPBRr8surVblr86jmQi 29. 2008: It Bites - The Tall Ships - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mKoyk5NRUOqI9fo61i2P2s4uv105228aY 30. 2008: Pendragon - Pure - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8C9FD963960C03DB 31. 2005: Arena - Pepper's Ghost - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nW8-qNtbQFzrbxPnT8-EPo_aQnoBEY57U 32. 1983: Tales from the Lush Attic - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLIV22ZKmLpN4YTA2a2R8ny 33. 1997: Fish - Sunsets On Empire - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nKsQdmusgAYwhdtE1fIKrEgsZjIt2Cw4I 34. 2014: The Road of Bones - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIIAFnD5oW5Fd0pG4xrJ4mS 35. 1991: Pendragon - The World - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRLcDlUjyCU 36. Satellite - A Street Between Sunrise and Sunset 37. 1984: Pallas - The Sentinel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLcpeZ4mTlBspQfPJcAsh94 38. Satellite - Evening Games 39. RPWL - God Has Failed 40. 2006: Magenta - Home - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKS0fMqXsgBwG9NIf68a7mB 41. 1995: Arena - Songs from the Lion's Cage - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWD3neilwkfPLXcOKjQnp8aET0I1Ym9sM 42. 2008: Magenta - Metamorphosis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJDG_UUWBs2xdA7BjpugLLs 43. 1999: Fish - Raingods with Zippos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ntAQCrqv2lFXFOzSoPKC4BPFzsQew9y_Y 44. Subsignal - Touchstones 45. Comedy of Errors - Fanfare & Fantasy 46. 2020: Pendragon - Love Over Fear 47. Sylvan - Presets 48. 2019: Resistance - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpL62ziaIk-J_IQDNKqbL_Bi 49. Galleon - From Land to Ocean 50. 2018: Arena - Double Vision - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nj51TVrBj3Ubol5R5-FG950gaVskWySIg 51. Quidam - Quidam 52. Anubis - A Tower of Silence 53. 2015: Arena - The Unquiet Sky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1yUZZG5v21cFYNDI1fF2byJEWyc1MJ1E 54. 1988: It Bites - Once Around the World - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lTlw6OMpzeIQf86IfcOSGE9Nd3SLaNifk 55. Pablo El Entarrador - Pablo El Entarrador 56. Logos - Sadako e le mille gru di carta 57. Knight Area - Under a New Sgn 58. Kino - Picture 59. 2011: Arena - The Seventh Degree of Separation - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_rTXGMgfWxZl0ZifVSy9b2VQfsF1H8WU 60. 2005: Pallas - The Dreams of Men - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKOAiRHjfQmqbxzsT8KZtOE 61. 1990: Collage - Basnie - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnJUmEBUCxF8WC2h1y7oRU8VMY8wvjlmT 62. 2014: Pendragon - Men Who Climb Mountains - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLix6azk3cllYQutUKbLOvLQyz0UXGHdqh 63. 1991: Fish - Internal Exile - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kcxX1Jx6VNLWeqAOVSG2SkIN519ONnulA 64. 1996: Arena - Pride - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lY9CdTgjaTd8ElJfLCGfZV_y-oMKTUouQ 65. 2012: Galahad - Beyond the Realms of Euphoria - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoRNXsrOuZ-VmsMVzVmu1hVu3dGhZctbv 66. Eddie Jobson /Zinc - The Green Album 67. 2001: Pallas - The Cross & the Crucible - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKSPwLBWy-Z8KH7dzCuO8Us 68. 2011: Pendragon - Passion - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFXrsVDC8Iw-a75h4xabfhLedaMUBibWk 69. 1981 Osiris - Osiris - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXk3dAPEx9A 70. Abraxas - Abraxas 71. 2016: Frost* - Falling Satellites - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYrABYXNP6GDnnu_FM_rcx1 72. 2005: Pendragon - Believe 73. 1985: Pendragon - The Jewel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGdFgsky5Xo 74. Knight Area - Realm of Shadows 75. East - Huseg 76. Citizen Cain - Somewhere But Yesterday 77. 1997: Clepsydra - Fears - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kP9fQjkxi5Ug-tc_rzl0PxWoa9WNn2mdI 78. Iluvatar - Children 79. Proto-Kaw - The Wait of Glory 80. The Gourishankar - 2nd Hands 81. Cosmograf - The Man Left in Space 82. Aufklarung - De la tempesta.... L'oscuro piacere 83. Carptree - Man Made Machine 84. Sylvan - One to Zero 85. Mindgames - Actors in a Play 86. Satellite - Nostalgia 87. 2012: Galahad - Battle Scars - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n0oZA0AtBNhkKhb_ws6xR1wmOlCDnQiQE 88. 1994: Jadis - Across the Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ldWSYJ9taW5XPCGCKTeOqavwNSwTs_M70 89. 2001: Clepsydra - Alone - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m2Zb4PRO0L8Cw3KaF_doUYrPsBxBX5ySg 90. Lazuli - Le fantastique envol di Dieter Bohm 91. 1989: It Bites - Eat Me in St. Louis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m00qE88G8xPBT0yBVvrDtUm-m4ENpmNe8 92. Timothy Pure - Blood of the Berry 93. Anubis - Hitchhiking to Byzantium 94. Discipline - Push & Profit 95. Knight Area - The Sun Also Rises 96. Quidam - Pod niebem czas 97. 1994: Fish - Suits - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nX-iR-GrL-c22byiH0zUdojkc1oJII9XU 98. 2012: It Bites - Map of the Past - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nOftrBgE98mh8eVpEtz8ViNeeLuLO2YC8 99. 2008: Abel Ganz - Shooting Albatross - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZponSTA09xnlmNI45uQdK7 100. Kayak - Merlin: Bard of the Unseen 101. 2017: Magenta - We Are Legend - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLBCN6ASIjRnhyuESyR2k0y 102. 1987: IQ - Nomzamo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIBzGs044oorog2gXGfiXoi 103. Comedy of Errors - Disobey 104. K2 - Book of the Dead 105. Abraxas - Centurie 106. 2002: Galahad - Year Zero - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nonfej-_QC1QXt7GgE9qbGqQxB1MhJxhc 107. 1994: Clepsydra - More Grains of Sand - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_loqM2TiK6OTK5P03qPqmmPQfiSyqq6Io8 108. 2003: Jadis - Fanatic - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIgvdsABrqPWsSLTtHNo_TCgNt9HzdHZs 109. 2011: Pallas - XXV - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKb_h3tMMdpRuZI6H-jgA-H 110. Abraxas - 99 111. Drifting Sun - Forsaken Innocence 112. Knight Area - Nine Paths 113. Unicorn - Emotional Wasteland 114. Sylvan - Encounters 115. Millenium - Exist 116. 1998: Pallas - Beat the Drum - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJLqSNq8yYrMqdMFS1Q59rE 117. Cosmograf - Capacitor 118. DeeExpus - King of Number 33 119. Southern Empire - Southern Empire 120. 1996: Collage - Safe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0NmwOAb68 * List compiled by Rate Your Music
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Extremely excellent list. |
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The Dreams Of Men is a tremendous album but I haven't explored much further than that. Think I may own XXV but wasn't impressed and so didn't explore further. Strangely I've never heard the Sentinel.
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Drew can't surely complain about lack of Neo-Prog threads.
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My Top 2 of Neo-Prog may be well-known by now but anyway. Marillion (UK) - Script for a Jester's Tear (1983) Pendragon (UK) - The Jewel (1985) |
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I agree Richard. Haven’t gone past post Alan Reed Era. Also that makes two of us regarding the Sentinel. I haven’t listened to the whole album all the way through cause I’ve yet to procure a physical copy of the disc. I shall fix that someday. |
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I actually haven’t heard the Jewel 💎 all the way through yet either. |
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