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mathman0806 
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 Posted: September 29 2022 at 00:39 |
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I could say, "Through the magic of technology and the Internet" and that would not be far from the truth.  The truth being my streaming subscription to Amazon Music Unlimited and its weekly "My Discovery Mix" playlist. It's an playlist generated every Monday of 25 tracks that is based on some algorithm analyzing my listening habits. One week, it had a track by Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp (a different one than what I posted) and it stood out, which lead to adding the entire album to my Amazon Music cloud, a Google search, and a trip to Bandcamp to purchase, though only a digital purchase was availble. The generates playlist does seem to follow what I listen to, which could go from heavier psyche/stoner rock one week to more adventurous instrumental and ethnic music. It usually is made up of artists/tracks i had not heard of and does range back to tracks from the 60's and 70's, though the majority is from the past 10 years. I also listen to music from the Interactive Polls on Amazon if available, so there are suggestions that seem to come from that. For instance, since Lorenzo's lesser known 70s prog poll, I get a few recommendations from the 60s or 70s that are prog or prog-related. This week's mix includes Irish Coffee (70s Belgian), Picchio del Pozzo (70s Italian), the Velvet Illusions (60s West Coast psychedelic), and Frabjoy & Runcible Spoon (60s pre-10cc Godley and Creme). Also this week, I got Mantra Machine, who I suggested in Greg's last poll but don't listen to on Amazon because I purchased on Bandcamp, and Returned to the Earth, one of the artists Nickie had in Nick's last poll. So, I am stalked by Amazon apparently.  and I rambled on off topic in answering Mila's question.Short answer: The magic of the Internet. |
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JD
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Posted: September 29 2022 at 05:10 |
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Not in the competition, but thought we should get it out of the way now. Steve Moore And here's a live version of one I've always liked. Carl Palmer - Bullfrog Edited by JD - September 29 2022 at 05:15 |
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moshkito
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Posted: September 29 2022 at 07:52 |
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Hi,
I'm not a great fan of drumming and have not been for about 40 years. In general, it has become too mechanical and boring to my ears, especially for someone that was reared in classical music, and not beat driven material. You don't listen to Mozart and count the beats. You don't listen to Stravinsky and count the beats, and in my book the drumming these days is all about elementary music, so the folks playing can stick together. were they listening to each other a drumbeat would not be necessary, but when you are playing and all you can "hear" is the beat, then you are not adding to the music and making it livelier and stronger all around. I'm not sure I would vote for a lot of these things here, and I remember some nice moments ... 1) I don't do rhythm. I'm with the guitar! (Many!) 2) Drumming is for folks that don't know, or like music! (Pierre!) 3) If I worried about the drumming, I would throw everything off the stage at the start! (Moonie!) 4) I miss the freedom to add/subtract bits here and there! (Bruford) 5) Got to make it different every time! (Wyatt) ... and many other thoughts and ideas! The whole mechanical thing is so commercial as to be sick and pathetic. I like music, and the beat is not enough, and in most cases, it is the worst part of it all, given by folks over infatuated with their ego, thinking that because they can count, it is drumming, or he/she can add that extra tick with their stick, makes it even better drumming! Sorry ... this thread is not for me, and I do have, yes, I do, a few names that I love to listen to in drumming, but sadly, almost all of the ones mentioned were not that great. AND, to much of it was just pop music, and not the real thing, though some pop music had great drumming.
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Mila-13
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Posted: September 29 2022 at 12:11 |
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@George, indeed, over time we inevitably become part of each others "musical dna", that is each other's internet al-go-rithm's, esp. in this drum rhythm themed edition.
I find my youtube recommendations rather poor, though. I think there is a way of improving their recommendations by resetting them, but I haven't dealt with it yet. I get most of my information from music magazines and certain record labels. Sometimes I find the internet rather confusing than helpful. But of course it is also an opportunity for artists to become known, even beyond national borders. The Swiss orchestra tours Europe and now even Canada.  Edited by Mila-13 - September 29 2022 at 16:31 |
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mathman0806
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Posted: September 30 2022 at 13:28 |
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Here's something I think Greg (Logan) might post. I am digging the Ghost Power album. Some cool sounds.
I was between this one "Asteroid Witch" and "Panic in the Isles of Splendor". |
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suitkees
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Posted: October 01 2022 at 03:56 |
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A next one from me: a drummer you probably all know, in a band that you might not know. Pat Mastelotto with his band Mastica. Mastica - Muņecos De Palo: |
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suitkees
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Posted: October 01 2022 at 08:08 |
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And as a kind of follow-up of the previous poll, I saw Anthony Joseph live last Thursday and it was a wonderfully great concert (recommended to everyone who likes jazz-fusion; go see him). Awesome musicianship from all of them present: Jason Yarde on Saxophone, Rod Youngs on Drums, Andrew Johns on Bass, Thibaut Remy on Guitar and Denys Baptiste on Saxophone, and of course the voice and poetry of Anthony Joseph. Rod Youngs, who also has played with Gil Scott Heron in the past, was particularly impressive all along, but especially on a piece of which I don't have the title and couldn't trace back yet on what is available on the internet. But, a track that somehow is a homage to the drums is "Language", talking about the origin of the world, residing in language and language "rooted deep in the resonance of the drum"... "It is language which calls all things to creation And language is the origin of the world The word Was the great mass of a black star exploding It was the beat of a drum The vibration of the body." So, out of competition but I wanted to share this with you: Anthony Joseph - Language (Poem for Anthony McNeill): |
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Mila-13
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Posted: October 01 2022 at 22:33 |
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^ Kees, thanks a lot for sharing your impressions! Even though many people speak English nowadays, poetry takes it to the next level. It is the music that allows to reach a wider audience and overcome language barriers. It is remarkable how Joseph uses both of his talents as a writer and a musician to create something completely new. I hope I will have the opportunity to see him live sometime soon.
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moshkito
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Posted: October 01 2022 at 23:36 |
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Hi,
Ok ... here's a fun list from me ... abbreviated! Steve Gadd with Rickie Lee Jones in her first albums ... outstanding breaks helping accentuate her delivery, which she lost once he was no longer there! First Pirates The Magazine Steve Gadd with Kate Bush in a couple of things that are so well done and seem like just a flight through free form nothing without a beat ... just lovely! Director's Cut Fifty Words for Snow Peter Leopold and Danny Fichelscher with Amon Duul 2/ In too many albums, and their ability to help accentuate so much different, strange, weird and off the wall material, and still ... it shines! Pierre Moerlin with Gong and Solo. Lovely to watch, and his touring with Gong in'96 (I think it was!) made the band rock'ier than the Pip version (Jazzy) or the other version (trippy/dancey). Simon Phillips with Duncan Browne - In the albums Wild Places and the following album ... some nifty material and balance really made Duncan's voice work sound better. Joachim Ehrig (Eroc) with Grobschnitt. The man that starts the drum transitions yesterday, and never misses anything is also the one that has given you the various remasters and the incredible amount of material that showed even better how good a drummer he is. Many Neumeier with Guru Guru (early stuff up to TF). I fell out after Tango Fango, but his stuff in the early days and with the guitarist that played like John McLaughlin, and still, Many stayed with him the whole time ... who cares about rhythm or a bass player! Bill Bruford with King Crimson. I think he really helped the band define itself a lot better than we thought. Originally, it was hard to believe that all that was by one or two people. All of a sudden you had a monster band with really far out material that we still love today! Terry Williams with the Man Band. Deke Leonard used to say that this guy was impossible, and he was never wrong, when it came to timing, and went on and off it all the time, but never lost a step. The good side? It helped Deke and Mickey rampage their stuff together. The bad side? What are you doing? And Terry would say, just worry about your guitar! Rob Townsend - Family. Lovely touch in so many different songs. And that blast right from the start is a perfect example! |
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Lewian
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 05:42 |
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Hey mosh, what about suggesting a non-prog track with yt video, so that we all have some listening fun? (I know we can also do research based on your list if we don't know the artistst already, but "regular participation" in the poll is very welcome, and I'm sure you have some good stuff to share!) I do appreciate the list though, many of those I love, too. Edited by Lewian - October 02 2022 at 05:52 |
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Lewian
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 05:50 |
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Unfortunately I have some issue with my music computer... anyway here are some more suggestions... these are artists I had suggested earlier but despite being very keen on this topic, lots of stuff that comes to mind is either prog or has already featured in the now very rich history of interactive polls. Joe Jackson's tour with Sue Hadjopoulos (perc) has lots of great drums/percussion work. Here's Target/TV Age. Mik Glaisher of the Comsat Angels is such an inventive drummer. Waiting for a Miracle. Edited by Lewian - October 02 2022 at 05:56 |
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suitkees
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 06:06 |
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Some comments on what I've heard so far... Christian: Gosh, it took me at least 10 years to get rid of this Popcorn melody in my head, and it hasn't popped up for at least another five years... Thank you! ;) The drumming is indeed quite good, though; never paid much attention to it actually. I love this kind of endeavours by Christoph Haberer, a great showcase of talent, with a nice underlying soundtrack. This could be much longer if it was up to me. Lorenzo: Nice, it is the rocking you that is privileged here. I like all four of your suggestions - yes, I too, I love the 80s (Nena!... Indianer would have fit in this poll too...). The rather straight rock by Noiseworks becomes great through those roaring guitars and synths, and the solid drumming. Didn't know the Springsteen track (or don't remember); great opening, but then the drumming gets more conventional, to my ears. The drumming on the Surgery track sounds a bit more adventurous, and very energetic, but the stand-out track is Susanne Vega's Wooden Horse: musically, vocally and drummingly the most interesting to me. George: Only heard of the name of Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp, don't think I ever heard music made by them. This is an extraordinary piece, captivating and a concentration of talent. Wonderful, and very tight playing! Course of Empire is also infested with a super tight drum combo - a very enjoyable rocking track (contagious!). I prefer the original to the mix. And thanks for the Muppets! It shows what a high quality show it was - and of course Animal wins in the end, sort of... The Blue Man Group is great fun to see and to hear. Inventive rain pipe use! And I very much like the Asteroid Witch track: again a very tight drumming and I love those sounds and fizzles. This one and especially the Tout Puissant are my favourites of yours. Mila: Nice, an oldy! And I very much enjoy this one by Guem & Zaka Percussion. Quite soothing, in a way. It makes me think a bit of Terry Bozzio and his melodic drumming. Great pick. JD: Hehe, although Steeve Moore's drumming as such may not sound that spectacular, his wide-ranging gestures are! Carl Palmer is as always wonderful and impressively convincing. Didn't know this live track, it's a great one, thanks! Edited by suitkees - October 02 2022 at 06:42 |
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And I thought you might like some more from the Butchery. Beats and Brass, this time. sl*g.rij van Kampen - Otra Gacela (live): |
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 06:23 |
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@Christian: Joe Jackson's Night and Day album is the only one I have, but I listen to it rather regularly. This live rendition of two tracks show what a masterpieces these are and what a talented composer he is and how talented the musicians are. A great pleasure to hear and see this. I also like the Comsat Angels track, the drumming particularly, the song as such maybe a bit less...
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 11:10 |
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We are now 7 people, including Argo 2112 (Mike) who is new to me. I don't know whether he is familiar with the rules of IA polls? So how many nominations do we have per person? I have posted just one track so far which is rather a first association with the theme than a suggestion. Edited by Mila-13 - October 02 2022 at 11:28 |
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 15:44 |
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OK, whoever wants to nominate two tracks can do that. No obligation though, you can also nominate one.
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 17:03 |
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So after some nice African drumming, here we have something quite different, from my experimental music collection.
Simone Rubino is a young Italian percussionist who has made a name for himself in recent years as a soloist and chamber musician. Here he is performing a work by American percussionist and composer Casey Cangelosi. "Bad Touch", a piece for solo performer and audio tape. Simone Rubino: Bad Touch |
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Posted: October 02 2022 at 17:11 |
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I nominate:
1) Suzanne Vega: Wooden Horse 2) Surgery: A. K. (Thanks to Kees) I will nominate Noiseworks in the future
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