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@Lorenzo, Christian
Basically I think 3 votes is ok with an average number of participants, currently 8-11. However a certian flexibility makes sense to me, e.g. if, as is currently the case, each participant can nominate two songs for the final due to a low number of participants. Otherwise the voting makes little sense to me. It takes me too much time to make a choice. I can't listen to those songs over and over again. I lose interest that way. Maybe we should try at some point an edition without any voting at all and see how that goes.



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@all: I have repleced one of my songs. It's one of the two songs by the band 'Leb i sol'. The new song is from the same album. I have added a corresponding note, just in case.



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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I'll add a few too:

Can - Splash (1974)


Dzyan - For Earthly Thinking (1974)


Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra (1972)


Clearlight - Spiral d'amour (1978)



5 Points for Hosianna Mantra, a masterpiece song from the Popol Vuh album of the same name. It was one of my candidates. I wrote one of my first reviews on this album.

3 points for Dzyan, who churn out a very original instrumental piece with percussion and bass in the foreground, between jazz improvisations and psychedelia

2 points for Can, with their frenzied instrumental piece, with an almost Caribbean rhythm and jazz improvisations (they did much better, in my opinion).

These three pieces are of high quality.

The last piece on the contrary does not convince me and seems modest to me. 1 point
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Christian: These flipped around a lot as each held my attention in different ways. In the end, I just enjoyed JRF of the Asssociation P.C. the most but very strong in second was Luciano Cilio as one that required my attention through the sparse details of the piece. Really liked how it was layered.

1. Association P.C. - 5 pts
2. Luciano Cilio - 3 pts
3. Manfred Mann - 2 pts
4. Birth Control - 1 pt
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Is Popol Vuh progressive rock, really? I don't know if I hear that.

As for me, Ima be a cliche and pitch in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)"

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Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Is Popol Vuh progressive rock, really? I don't know if I hear that.

As for me, Ima be a cliche and pitch in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)"

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It seems you have not read the original post. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Is Popol Vuh progressive rock, really? I don't know if I hear that.

As for me, Ima be a cliche and pitch in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)"

Love, DreamTechPlus.

It seems you have not read the original post. 



It all seemed kind of elaborate to me. I wouldn't have posted at all but to wonder if Popol Vuh fits any definition of progressive rock. I figured as long as I was posting might as well throw it in there.

If you don't like it you can ignore it.

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Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Is Popol Vuh progressive rock, really? I don't know if I hear that.

As for me, Ima be a cliche and pitch in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)"

Love, DreamTechPlus.

It seems you have not read the original post. 



It all seemed kind of elaborate to me. I wouldn't have posted at all but to wonder if Popol Vuh fits any definition of progressive rock. I figured as long as I was posting might as well throw it in there.

If you don't like it you can ignore it.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Is Popol Vuh progressive rock, really? I don't know if I hear that.

As for me, Ima be a cliche and pitch in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)"

Love, DreamTechPlus.

It seems you have not read the original post. 



It all seemed kind of elaborate to me. I wouldn't have posted at all but to wonder if Popol Vuh fits any definition of progressive rock. I figured as long as I was posting might as well throw it in there.

If you don't like it you can ignore it.

Love, DreamTechPlus.


Interesting. I didn't realise they were considered krautrock either.

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Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Is Popol Vuh progressive rock, really? I don't know if I hear that.

As for me, Ima be a cliche and pitch in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)"

Love, DreamTechPlus.

It seems you have not read the original post. 



It all seemed kind of elaborate to me. I wouldn't have posted at all but to wonder if Popol Vuh fits any definition of progressive rock. I figured as long as I was posting might as well throw it in there.

If you don't like it you can ignore it.

Love, DreamTechPlus.


Interesting. I didn't realise they were considered krautrock either.

Love, DreamTechPlus.

"Affenstunde" from 1970 and "In den Gärten Pharaos" from 1971 are in the vein of electronic prog, the others are more eclectic with the occasional return to electronic. Since they are German and were right at the beginning of the Krautrock movement it is quite fitting to put them there.

I mentioned this several times already: Genres should be given to albums, not to bands; some bands moved between genres a lot, like for example Guru Guru. What should be assigned to the artists are all the genres they ever dabbled in. But apparently this is too much of a software change for this site.


Edited by BaldFriede - July 21 2022 at 05:17


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The partecipants are:
1) jamesbaldwin
2) suitkees
3) nick
4) someone else
5) Bald Friede
6) Bald Jean
7) mathman0806
8) prophesy disaster
9) lewian
10) mila
11) cristi.

Everyone will nominate 2 songs (the songs with the highest score)

There will be 22 songs.

We can vote 4 songs. 4, not 3.

The vote will start next Wednesday.







Edited by jamesbaldwin - July 21 2022 at 05:29
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Cristi:


Sfinx- classic symphonic prog song driven by keyboards and drums, enjoyable, 2 points

Good mini-suite that after a rock approach becomes meditative with a long interlude of keyboards before returning to being rock, the most inspired of the selection, 5 points

Phoenix - Rather upbeat blues-style rhythm song, doesn't have much prog, 3 points

Epitaph - Pleasant song, keyboard-based ballad that seeks the epic effect a la King Crimson, but does not reach a true climax, 1 point.


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Epitaph - Visions sounds like if someone wanted to use Epitaph or In the Wake of Poseidon by King Crimson in a cartoon or something but they couldn't get the rights to use KC's music so instead they recruited studio musicians to make a soundalike song. xD
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I'm in after all, and here is my selection:

From Ex-Yugoslavia

1. Smak: Domaci zadatak (Album: Crna Dama, 1977)


2. Leb i sol: Akupunktura (Album: Leb i sol 2, 1978)


3. Leb i sol: Pod vodom (Album: Leb i sol, 1977)

song replaced, same album.

From Switzerland

4. Mainhorse, Patrick Moraz: La salamandre (La Salamandre OST, 1972)


La Salamandre, a film by Swiss film director Alain Tanner.


Smak: rock-soul instrumental piece with fast-paced syncopated pieces and short drum solos, pleasant. Points 5

Leb I Sol: Another instrumental piece that after a slow start gets faster and faster, until it becomes frenzied. It's not my cup of tea. Points 1

Leb i Sol again: rock piece led by a guitar turn, but the most interesting part is the musical score of the bass. Slightly better than the previous one. Points 2

Main Horse, with Moraz on keyboards, churns out a contemplative piece with some rough electric guitar features. Points 3
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Epitaph - Visions sounds like if someone wanted to use Epitaph or In the Wake of Poseidon by King Crimson in a cartoon or something but they couldn't get the rights to use KC's music so instead they recruited studio musicians to make a soundalike song. xD

Epitaph are in my opinion a worthy addition to prog-related; their first three albums ("Epitaph" from 1971, "Stop Look and Listen" from 1972 and "Outside the Law" from 1974) are all very good. I love the dual lead guitar in many songs.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Epitaph - Visions sounds like if someone wanted to use Epitaph or In the Wake of Poseidon by King Crimson in a cartoon or something but they couldn't get the rights to use KC's music so instead they recruited studio musicians to make a soundalike song. xD

Epitaph are in my opinion a worthy addition to prog-related; their first three albums ("Epitaph" from 1971, "Stop Look and Listen" from 1972 and "Outside the Law" from 1974) are all very good. I love the dual lead guitar in many songs.

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I hope you will contribute to the poll by putting the points to the selection of the other participants


Edited by jamesbaldwin - July 21 2022 at 17:26
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Epitaph - Visions sounds like if someone wanted to use Epitaph or In the Wake of Poseidon by King Crimson in a cartoon or something but they couldn't get the rights to use KC's music so instead they recruited studio musicians to make a soundalike song. xD

Well, in my opinion that song is too much epigonic of King Crimson. But I dont know that group and so I cant evaluate their music.
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Nice of you to join in, Mila. Never heard of the Yugoslavian bands and completely forgot the music of La Salamandre (great film!). With the first three we are more in jazz-rock territories. Very enjoyable, but at the same time not very spectacular. After the obligatory drum solo (rather conventional) the Smak piece becomes quite amazing, and both Leb i Sol tracks are very enjoyable too, veering sometimes more into melodic/bluesy rock. Difficult to rank these three, which is also why I put Mainhorse on top: a very energetic melodic rock track with that touch of sophistication... After that it becomes a bit of a toss-up:

1. Mainhorse - La Salamandre: 5 points
2. Leb i Sol - Akupunktura: 3 points
3. Smak - Domaci zadatak: 2 points
4 Leb i Sol - Damar: 1 point


Suitkees, Mila have changed the fourth song, you should listen to the other one.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Luciano Cilio - Secondo Quadro "Della Conoscenza"

Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Earth Hymn
Birth Control - Film of Life
Association P.C. - Frau Theunissens Kegel
I tried to go for some stuff you may not know - Manfred Mann is very well known but this particular album seems a bit neglected. I have toyed around nominating Can - Spoon, which I'd probably nominate as number one track, but Can have already been mentioned, and I guess (though not sure) that it's better known than all those nominated. Have fun!





Lorenzo Cilio: Christian had already recommended this album to me, which is practically unknown in Italy. We are faced with a very refined, spiritual Chamber music, reminiscent of the Third Ear Band, but which has its own more pronounced and less improvised melody - closed  to the small masterpiece, 5 points

Manfred Mann: very pleasant commercial song based on the rhythm and melody of the keyboards, good sung parts, 2 points

Birth Control: interlocutory beginning, then with the change of tempo the prog ambitions and the refinement of the sound come out, the song rises in quality, math rock ending. Song that lacks a mighty inspirational heart, but with a good musical score and that it is performed very well. 3 Points

Association, very sustained (and too long) jam rockblues that is saved for keyboard solos, 1 point
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