Our favorite prog songs of the Seventies
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Topic: Our favorite prog songs of the Seventies
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Subject: Our favorite prog songs of the Seventies
Date Posted: July 12 2022 at 12:08
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THE RULES ARE: 1) Choose 4 prog songs released between 1970 and 1979 that are among your favorites, no matter if they are famous or less-known songs (however, they must not belong to one of the bands that are present with one or more albums in the Top 100 - all time). 2) The songs must last a maximum of 10-11 minutes. 3) After you have posted your selection, listen to each song posted by the other forumists, and put them in order from 1 (the one you like best) to 4 (the one you like least). Number 1 gets 5 points, number 2 gets 3 points, number 3 gets 2 points, number 4 gets 1 point. 4) From your selection of 4 songs, two songs will participate in the final vote, but you won't be the one to choose them: the songs nominated will be those that have obtained the highest score from the votes of the forumists. 5) And in the end you vote for 3 songs! Have fun! ------- 07/22 EDIT: The partecipants are: 1) jamesbaldwin 2) suitkees 3) nick 4) someone else 5) Bald Friede 6) Bald Jean 7) mathman0806 8) prophesy disaster 9) lewian 10) mila 11) cristi. Everyone will nominate 2 songs (the songs with the highest score) Here the table with the songs and the score: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ikb4J6VkrewpSLQXnFx7F7HRxQNLH0dGPvr_OtH0ZI/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ikb4J6VkrewpSLQXnFx7F7HRxQNLH0dGPvr_OtH0ZI/edit?usp=sharing There will be 22 songs. We can vote 4 songs. 4, not 3. The vote will start next Wednesday. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 12 2022 at 12:23
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My Selection: 1) Quatermass: Laughin' Tackle (1970) 2) Tim Buckley: Lorca (1970) 3) Roxy Music: A Song For Europe (1973) 4) Henry Cow: Beautiful As The Moon (1975) ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 02:03
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It's quite amazing to see some of those tremendous groups not represented with an album in PA's top 100 - it shows how relative this list is (and how very much Anglo-Saxon dominated). My choices (and the album's they're off) would be in my personal top 20, taking into account that there could be 38 albums in my top 20... was first thinking of Eloy, but the albums I prefer are from 1980-1982, so not eligible. I've always preferred the better Grobschnitt albums over anything Genesis and Ange is part of my personal Big Six... Anyway, these four pieces are for me those albums and bands that nourished my prog explorations in the early/mid eighties when I was discovering all these wonderful things. Regarding these four bands: it could have been another track from another album. In alphabetical order... Alquin - Soft Royce (1972): Ange - À Colin-Maillard (1978): Grobschnitt - Severity Town (1977): Saga - Humble Stance (1978): ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 02:40
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From Lorenzo: Roxy Music (5 points) Quatermass (3 points) Henry Cow (2 points) Tim Buckley (1 point) I knew only the Roxy and Cow tracks, so the other two were new to me. I really enjoyed the Quatermass - almost enough to displace Roxy from the top spot. From Kees: Alquin (5 points) Ange (3 points) Grobschnitt (2 points) Saga (1 point) Again, I knew only two of the tracks (Ange and Grobschnitt), but this time one of the new tracks did usurp one of the more familiar for the top spot. Somewhat amusingly, to me, my order of preference matches the alphabetical order Kees presented the tracks in. I guess I need to try and work out my four, now…. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 02:46
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Wonderful selection Lorenzo, I like all four of them very much. It's a bit of a torture to have to rank them, but here we go (a bit determined by the "I have to be in the mood" criterion): 1. Roxy Music - A Song For Europe: 5 points (no specific mood required) 2. Henry Cow - Beautiful As The Moon: 3 points 3. Quatermass - Laughin' Tackle: 2 points 4. Tim Buckley - Lorca: 1 point ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 05:18
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Oh how I looove Humble Stance! |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 06:13
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Perhaps somewhat predictably, I’m going to go for some Kiwi prog - which has the advantage of being unlikely to feature in the top 100. Two of my favourite albums from the year of my birth (1975) are from NZ bands, so I figured I would start with tracks from them. First up, Split Enz’s “Stranger Than Fiction”, from their debut album, “Mental Notes”. Followed by Dragon’s “La Gash Lagoon”, from their second album, “Scented Gardens For The Blind”. Ragnarok’s eponymous debut was also released in 1975, and from that album, “Caviar Queen”. And finally, Airlord’s “Ladies Of The Night”, from “Clockwork Revenge”. Not qualifying for the poll, being released in 1969 (and also not having any stand-out stand-alone tracks), “The Happy Prince” by The La De Da’s, which is generally accepted as Aotearoa’s first prog album, and first concept album. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lbx2AF6LLbSjtXMeMXrpP3bwuEqefi7G4" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lbx2AF6LLbSjtXMeMXrpP3bwuEqefi7G4 I did also consider tracks from John Hanlon, Highway, The Human Instinct, and Think, but none really seemed quite right. I possibly would have included something from From Scratch, but couldn’t find any of their ‘70s material on YouTube. So, as another bonus, here’s a From Scratch compilation I found on Bandcamp, that has a couple of ‘70s pieces on it. https://emrecords.bandcamp.com/album/five-rhythm-works" rel="nofollow - https://emrecords.bandcamp.com/album/five-rhythm-works ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 08:09
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It was hard for me to find tracks that are (1) from the 70s, (2) not from a group in the top 100, (3) less than 10 minutes in length, AND (4) a favourite. But in the end, I found more than four and had the tough choice of picking just four: Argent - Hold Your Head Up (1972) I first heard this on the radio when it first came out and fell in love with it immediately even though I was quite young and not yet into progressive rock. And it was the organ solo that I especially loved. Hawkwind - Opa-Loka (1975) I was quite surprised to find that Hawkwind are not in the top 100, so I took this opportunity to present my favourite Hawkwind track and one of my favourite tracks overall. Jeff Beck - Scatterbrain (1975) In my circle of friends, this album is a classic. And for me, this track along with the previous track, is the highlight of the album and is among my favourite jazz-rock tracks. The Residents - Edweena (1978) This was my first exposure to The Residents, which I heard on the radio late one night. I was disappointed when the announcer said the album was "Not Available", but later found that it was available after all. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 09:45
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A lot of gems... ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 09:54
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About my selection: 1) Quatermass was a one-shot-group, but what a hit they scored, with their only album, in my opinion one of the best of the year 1970. They were a trio where John Gustafson, bassist, sang. It is the same Gustafson who plays the bass in Roxy Music's A Song For Europe. The real genius of the group, however, was Peter Robinson, keyboardist who inspired Pagliuca ("Le Orme") and who took care of the production and arrangements of many Shawn Phillips albums (in Furthermore, one of the most prog, he plays keyboards, he wrote some songs, and with him there is Gustafson). Quatermass: in the same album there is another masterpiece, Post War Saturday Echo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKum68hFjxs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKum68hFjxs 2) Tim Buckley: Lorca Tim Buckley has published 4 masterpieces in two years: I don't know if anyone equals him: Blue Afternoon, Happy Sad, Lorca and Starsailor. I chose his more psychedelic song, but I could have chosen others that were more mesmeric, orgasmic, free-folk. But Buckley has less fans because he doesnt play real prog. Other masterpieces: From Happy Sad: Gypsy Woman (twelve minutes) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaUt6KRsmKg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaUt6KRsmKg From Blue Afternoon: The Train http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AshTvxslz1Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AshTvxslz1Q Included in Lorca there is another masterpiece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNBztYTF7uc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNBztYTF7uc And then, From Starsailor... a lot of songs 3) Roxy Music, have released a true masterpiece: their debut, which should be in the Top 100. In that album there is a song that in my opinion is a masterpiece (but there are so many wonderful ones) that reaches the peak of A Song for Europe : If There Is Something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlttedKNlo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlttedKNlo 4) Henry Cow: they made 3 masterpieces: Unrest, In the Praise, Western Culture: in my opinion the second album is the most complete because it alternates instrumental pieces with real fabulous songs like the one I have chosen (the 15-minute suite is also a masterpiece).
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 15:23
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Time to stumble in once more. In chronological order: Traffic - Every Mother's Son (1970) I discovered this band in 2004 and this was the reason I came upon ProgArchives, Gnidrolog - Lady Lake (1972) A brilliant track by a band that has its position near the center of the triangle Jethro Tull - Gentle Giant - Van der Graaf Generator. Alquin - Take Any Road (1976) Alquin is my favourite Dutch prog band. This track closes their underrated album Best Kept Secret (2.60 today), their final studio album before the 29 year break. Sounds more or less like Stephen Stills having a foray into the realm of prog. Anthony Phillips - Wise after the Event (1978) A long time favourite which went with me for some 43 years. The first six tracks of the eponymous album are stellar. ------------- 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 15:46
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Guru Guru - Der Elektrolurch (1973) High Tide - The Joke (1970) Embryo - Radio Marrakesch/Orient Express (1973) Steve Hillage - Hurdy Gurdy Glissando (1976) Hawkwind - Assault and Battery/The Golden Void (1975) -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 16:12
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I'll add a few too: Can - Splash (1974) Dzyan - For Earthly Thinking (1974) Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra (1972) Clearlight - Spiral d'amour (1978) -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:01
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@BaldFriede, I'm happy to see you here, but these Interactive Polls are not the usual polls, there are some specific rules (please read my first comment). In this case, you should select just 4 songs, and not from the bands included in the Top100 (no Magma, no Gong, the other songs are ok). ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:25
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Sorry, we misunderstood. We thought you meant "not from an album that is in the top 100". ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:44
1) Alquin: Soft Royce. Long instrumental prelude with the sax, a soulful mood, then a piece of samba (oh my God! Stroke of genius or excess?); the vocals arrives after 3 and a half minutes but does not last long, and immediately comes a long final coda with the sax, in a pop-jazz style. In fact a very eclectic song in terms of atmosphere and tempo changes. 2) Ange: A Colin-Maillard: Dreamy atmosphere, languid singing in French, then towards the middle the rhythm accelerates, the vocals become aggressive, the song comes to life, then comes the electric guitar solo, finally the singing returns, all takes place on a carpet of keyboards, and the electric guitar returns again and then the vocals, the final structure is rather narrative, based on the lyrics. 3) Grobschnitt: Severity Town. This group is the only one of which I had heard some songs, the only one I know (little) of this selection. So, after a Dutch group, and a French one, here is a German group. Very fabulous music, with initial music box, with a percussive carpet of jazz drums. This is definitely a mini-suite in fact towards the middle there is a change of pace, now the music becomes Teutonic, adding street noises. The underlying influences to this group are really many (from space rock to Gentle Giant style math rock). The music becomes rockblues, the vocals become aggressive, the changes of tempo and atmosphere follow each other without respite, we breath prog to the nth degree. Acted fabulous ending, almost a la Donovan. A lot of good meat on the fire, perhaps too much. 4) Saga: Humble Stance. From Canada with fury. I've never heard them. We are in the new wave era, you can hear it from the rhythm and the production. This music seems more German than the previous one! Very marching style, carpet of keyboards or synths, quite commercial sound (in itself it is not a defect or a merit), in fact we are in the prog crossover, then a rather powerful guitar solo. Not easy to sequence these songs, I would say that the first two are very close to each other, the third is the most elaborate in the prog sense, the most ambitious, the last is the least prog, easier to listen to but also powerful. I'm sure I like Ange's song a little bit more than Alquin's, the problem is where to put Grobschnitt's: first or third? I put it first, long live to the prog! 1) Grobschnitt - 5 points 2) Ange - 3 points 3) Alquin - 2 points 4) Saga - 1 point.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
suitkees wrote:Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:54
Yes, no problem, we like to listen to music... and we would love to have you with us... if you want to partecipate, please select 4 songs from you list and listen to the other lists. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 20:47
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A bit tricky as I post these from my phone. I might add some commentary later. Be Bop Deluxe - No Trains to Heaven (1974) FM - Black Noise (1978) Colosseum II - The Scorch (1977) Utopia - Overture: The Mountaintop and Sunrise / Communion with the Sun (1977) I will need some time to rate the others. Some of these are not showing up for me by being in the U.S. Darn it YouTube. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 02:50
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@Nick and Friede: Which four of your five suggestions are your candidates for this poll (for our points distribution...)? @Nick: The vid for Dragon does not work for me (and maybe some others); https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgLJ9JaJpS8" rel="nofollow - this one does. @Jean: same regarding Can's Splash, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1EkHn6b6Fo" rel="nofollow - this one works. @George: I guess you mean Colosseum II (and not "Colossus" - you have to teach your phone some prog language...); https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqi7a_NW4-I" rel="nofollow - this one works for me. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 03:00
Haha. Yes. And the one in your link works for me so I will update. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 03:06
In turn, your Ange video doesn't play for me but https://youtu.be/M_iyxzirx_A" rel="nofollow - this does. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 03:18
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^  My points for I prophesy disaster's very energetic and wonderful selection (and, other than Hawkwind's position, the ranking is rather arbitrary...): (hesitated
briefly myself to include a Hawkwind track; it would probably have been
from the Hall of the Mountain Grill album, which is with Warrior my
preferred Hawkwind album) 1. Hawkwind - Opa-Loka: 5 points 2. Argent - Hold Your Head Up: 3 points3. Jeff Beck - Scatterbrain: 2 points 4. Residents - Edweena: 1 point ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 03:33
| ^I would have considered Psychedelic Warlords but saw Hawkwind listed twice, so passed. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 03:37
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Lorenzo. Liked all your selections. 1. Quatermass - 5 pts - my phone tried to "correct" this but caught it. A great one and done album. 2. Tim Buckley - 3 pts 3. Roxy Music - 2 pts 4. Henry Cow - 1 pt |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 04:25
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Listening (or relistening) to someone_else's suggestions makes me once more aware that ranking songs/tracks or albums really is not in my DNA. I would prefer not to rank them, because I like them all as much or almost, but here it goes: Alquin: 5 points Anthony Phillips: 3 points Gnidrolog: 2 points Traffic: 1 point ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 05:03
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And now to Jean's selection. This is half/half for me: Can and Popol Vuh are the outstanding ones here - I don't listen that much to either band but every time it is wonderful. I listened to the Clearlight album (borrowed it from a local library) a very long time ago, but found it a bit too cheesy. It's OK, but still a bit on the cheesy side to my ears. I discover Dzyan here with this track and it sounds as if they refused to play together; a bit too directionless improvisation, imo. So, ranking them is a bit easier in this case: Can - Splash: 5 points Popul Vuh - Hosianna Mantra: 3 points Clearlight - Spiral d'amour: 2 points Dzyan - For Earthly Thinking: 1 point ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 05:24
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Luciano Cilio - Secondo Quadro "Della Conoscenza" Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Earth Hymn Birth Control - Film of Life Association P.C. - Frau Theunissens Kegel I tried to go for some stuff you may not know - Manfred Mann is very well known but this particular album seems a bit neglected. I have toyed around nominating Can - Spoon, which I'd probably nominate as number one track, but Can have already been mentioned, and I guess (though not sure) that it's better known than all those nominated. Have fun! |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 05:42
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George offers us a more rock oriented prog selection, which suits me perfectly fine. I never heard much of Be Bop Deluxe and this is a great - impressive - guitar based track, but maybe the most conventional of the pack. FM is the big and pleasant surprise here for me; I think I've only heard the Surveillance album, but this track is really wonderful and will incite me to listen to the album. It even "smashes" those two other that I know (and like) very well, Colosseum II and Utopia. So, my points go to: 1. FM - Black Noise: 5 points 2. Colosseum II - The Scorch: 3 points 3. Utopia - Overture: The Mountaintop and Sunrise / Communion with the Sun: 2 points 4. Be Bop Deluxe - No Trains to Heaven: 1 point ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 07:18
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Hi, DELETED the Post. I simply can not EVER number choices of my likes. I love them all. Sorry.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 07:44
| Rrrrrrrrrrrread the opening posting!! All of it!! All of you! |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 12:59
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I read it. I simply can’t count, 🤪 I didn’t even realise I had posted five,r rather than four videos. When Kees asked which of my five videos were the four I meant for the poll, I had to go back and look. Five? What do you mean, five? I posted only four. Oh…. 😳 Disregard the Space Farm, and all is good. (All of the songs I chose, I checked were present (for me) on YouTube, Spotify and Amazon Music. Obviously there are geographic restrictions, and I can never be sure what shows for me, will show for others also.) ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 14:29
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My votes so far: jamesbaldwin: 1. Henry Cow (5 points) 2. Tim Buckley (3 points) 3. Roxy Music (2 points) 4. Quatermass (1 point) suitkees: 1. Grobschnitt (5 points) 2. Alquin (3 points) 3. Ange (2 points) 4. Saga (1 point) nick_n_hz: 1. Airlord (5 points) 2. Split Enz (3 points) 3. Ragnarok (2 points) 4. Dragon (1 points) A close call! I prophesy disaster: 1. Argent (5 points) by default. I almost picked this one for similar reasons. I fell in love with this one in 1972 at age 12 when I heard the organ solo for the first time. 2. The Residents (3 points) 3. Hawkwind (2 points) 4. Jeff Beck (1 point) I could have arranged the latter three in any order. BaldFriede (the first four): 1. High Tide - 5 points (I love this one) 2. Steve Hillage - 3 points 3. Embryo - 2 points 4. Guru Guru - 1 point (I find it hard to appreciate the first 7 minutes) I would have ranked Hawkwind between High Tide and Steve Hillage. BaldJean: 1. Popol Vuh (5 points) 2. Clearlight (3 points) 3. Can (2 points) 4. Dzyan (1 point) mathman0806: 1. Colosseum II (5 points) 2. FM (3 points) 3. Utopia (2 points) 4. Be Bop Deluxe (1 point) Lewian: 1. Luciano Cilio (5 points) 2. Manfred Mann's Earth Band (3 points) 3. Association PC (2 points) 4. Birth Control (1 point) -------------
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 15:13
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Lorenzo: 5 Henry Cow 3 Tim Buckley 2 Quatermass 1 Roxy Music The only one I didn't know was the Quatermass track, which is actually quite good, but both Henry Cow and Tim Buckley are very strong. Not that keen on Roxy Music.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 15:51
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Kees: Humble Stance is an all time favourite; it's very hard to put a ranking on the others. But I play the game: 5 Saga 3 Ange 2 Grobschnitt 1 Alquin
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 15 2022 at 18:50
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For Kees: Grobschnitt - 5 pts - theatrical prog. I had not heard this before. It's a fun track. Saga - 3 pts - I've enjoyed them through their first 5 albums Alquin - 2 pts - not familiar with them nor Ange. I like this a bit more. The music reminded me of Traffic. A good thing. Ange - 1 pts |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 02:58
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I prophesy disaster I’ve ranked these selections in the order that they appear, although definitely after Argent, and perhaps after Hawkwind, the order is more or less equal, and I simply went with the order they appear rather than have to make the effort to rank them in what would essentially be a fairly arbitrary order. Argent (five points) Hawkwind (three points) Jeff Beck (two points) Residents (one point) Robert I had never heard (of) Alquin, before Kees posted them earlier in this poll. They topped his selections for me, and came close to doing the same here, too. Gnidrolog (5 points) Alquin (3 points) Ant Phillips (2 points) Traffic (1 point) Jean It seems to be the case that for each of the sets of four tracks offered in this poll, two I’m familiar with, and two I’m not. It probably comes as no surprise that the two I’m familiar with here are Can and Popul Vuh, but where do they come in my ranking? Dyzan (5 points) Clearlight (3 points) Popul Vuh (2 points) Can (1 point) George And with George, I’ve managed to rank all the albums on the first page of the poll - with the exception of Friede, who like me has made a counting error. Be Bop Deluxe (5 points) Colosseum II (3 points) Utopia (2 points) FM (1 point) ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 03:06
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Had to listen to Nick's selection again to come to a decision regarding the points. Not that it helped, BTW. It was clear from the start that Split Enz would end up on top, but ranking the other three becomes a bit more arbitrary. I didn't know Airlord, nor Dialog, and I find just a bit more originality in the former. I also very much like the up-tempo tight rhythm of the Ragnarok track, which becomes as such the trouble maker to rank these... In the end: 1. Split Enz: 5 points 2. Airlord: 3 points 3. Ragnarok: 2 points 4. Dragon: 1 point Christian's selection was maybe one of the easiest to rank, for the number one and the number four spots were immediately obvious to me. Then, I love almost everything Jasper van 't Hof is involved in, even his cheesier work (Dutch cheese is famous!). Hadn't heard the Birth Control album since a very long while and forgot it was this good. The Manfred Mann's EB outing here is the least convincing. I never heard of Luciano Cilio, but this track alone is mesmerizingly beautiful, evoking something mysteriously intriguing, or intriguingly mysterious. So, without hesitation: 1. Luciano Cilio: 5 points (he deserves more!) 2. Association P.C.: 3 points 3. Birth Control: 2 points (they deserve more too, but well...) 4. Manfred Mann's Earth Band: 1 point ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 03:33
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Some supposedly cool stuff is lost on me and already was when I was getting into music around 1980. Already then Split Enz and particularly early Roxy Music were for those in the know (who also knew better what to wear to impress the girls) while I was listening to Pink Floyd and Eloy. Couldn't impress anyone in this way, just loved it more... 40 years on and still I don't get some of that stuff. Luckily I find Nick's other offerings very enjoyable, particularly that Airlord track. 5 Airlord 3 Dragon 2 Ragnarok 1 Split Enz
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 03:52
His solo on Frau Theunissens Kegel is outright spectacular in my view. Rarely heard anything as good as that on keyboards. My keyboarder friend and music partner likes very civilised melodic music, but once in a while he runs wild like this (if admittedly not quite that virtuous) and it makes me so happy... although I have my doubts whether these are the bits of his own playing he likes most.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 03:55
Black Noise is by far FM's best album and only one worth listening to in my opinion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 04:12
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Nick: From the start, I had Split Enz on top but the Airlords crept up. I enjoyed the rocking Ragnorok and, in particular, the vocals. Maybe not so prog, but not deserving of getting 1 pt. It is tough ranking these. Split Enz - 5 pts Airlords - 3 pts Dragon - 2 pts Ragnorok - 1 pt |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 04:33
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I prophesy disaster: So, familiar with the first three and "Hold Your Head" is classic rock staple and one I have always enjoyed. I usually enjoy Jeff Beck and Blow by Blow is among my top fusion albums, but in this context was just self-indulgent. Have not heard much Residents before but this is what I would imagine they should sound like. Did I mention I don’t enjoy ranking. Argent - 5 pt Hawkwind - 3 pt The Residents - 2 pt Jeff Beck - 1 pt |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 06:06
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 06:08
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Rrrrrrrrrreadreadread the opening posting! All of it! |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 07:18
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I prophesy disaster: Not that much between them for me, but I think the Hawkwind one needs to be listened loudly and in the right mood, with other Hawkwind music around it, optimally live. If I listen to these casually as I just do, it doesn't really do its magic. I don't love all Residents but you picked a great track there. The instrumental work in both Argent and Jeff Beck is very enjoyable, but Argent dragged down by the vocals. 5 Residents 3 Jeff Beck 2 Argent 1 Hawkwind
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 13:32
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someone_else: I only knew the Traffic track, which isn't my favourite from that album. Actually there's a clear split between the excellent Gnidrolog and Ant Phillips, and the Traffic and Alquin that aren't much to my liking. I really need to explore more of Ant Phillips; I've heard tracks here and there that didn't impress me that much, but this one is great. 5 Ant Phillips 3 Gnidrolog 2 Traffic 1 Alquin
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 16:28
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What a wonderful work, guys! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 16:47
1) Split Enz: Excellent song, atmospheric, I would say with a European mood (but aren't they New Zealanders?), Cabaret style a la Brecht. Very, very good. 2) Dragon: mini-suite with all the trappings of prog, the average tempo of the ballad prevails, but there are changes in rhythm, and the singer would have exploited his voice well in a blues band. Overall, well thought out song but without peaks. 3) Ragnarok: short song, and this is a merit for the prog. The helmet on the cover reminds me of Julianne Moore's in Big Lebowski, and I imagine the female voice as that of a naked woman wearing only that helmet. Very freak song, enjoyable, good vocal performance. 4) Airlord: New Zealand returns with fury. It starts very slow, for two minutes almost nothing happens, then comes the voice of the singer and comes the rhythm, which changes around 5 minutes, a very ambitious electric guitar is inserted, we are in the rockblues field, and it goes on in a long solo for 3 minutes. Lopsided and disproportionate song, beginning and ending too long, but inspired and genuine. Split Enz: 5 points Airlord: 3 points Dragon: 2 points Ragnarock: 1 point ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 03:05
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Friede, the first four (I find High Tide a bit weaker but the other three are almost on the same level): 5 Steve Hillage 3 Embryo 2 Guru Guru (1 1/2 Hawkwind) 1 High Tide |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 03:29
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Jean, very strong collection, best one so far. Hard hard hard. I didn't know the Dzyan one which is a total delight, but I can't vote against my favourite album of my favourite band. 5 Can 3 Dzyan 2 Clearlight 1 Popol Vuh
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 04:16
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someone_else: Noticed that I had put tracks that I have heard before at the top so far. But not the case. I hadn't listened to much Anthony Phillips before and this really stood out among these. The two tracks I know ended up 3 and 4. 1. Anthony Phillips - 5 pts 2. Alquin - 3 pts 3. Gnidrolog - 2 pts 4. Traffic - 1 pt |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 04:22
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I'm in after all, and here is my selection: From Ex-Yugoslavia 1. Smak: Domaci zadatak (Album: Crna Dama, 1977) 2. Leb i sol: Akupunktura (Album: Leb i sol 2, 1978) 3. Leb i sol: Pod vodom (Album: Leb i sol, 1977) song replaced, same album. From Switzerland 4. Mainhorse, Patrick Moraz: La salamandre (La Salamandre OST, 1972) La Salamandre, a film by Swiss film director Alain Tanner. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 04:30
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 06:17
Glad you changed your mind! I’m assuming that when it comes time for voting, we will have only one of our suggestions in the poll, and it will be the one that has accumulated the most points. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 07:19
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Thanks, Nick! Being part of the game is what counts, but all prog polls should stay where they belong imo. Besides i'm not the biggest fan of the "nostalgia" kind of polls. :P Unless Lorenzo changes his mind, he wrote in his initial post that two songs per person shall get into the final. But let's wait and see.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 07:32
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If we consider only Friede's first four suggestions (leaving out Hawkwind), then my ranking would be determined by two outstanding tracks and two very good tracks but less convincing. The ranking within each of these couples is rather arbitrary but here it goes: 1. Guru Guru: 5 points 2. Steve Hillage: 3 points 3. Embryo: 2 points 4. High Tide: 1 point------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 07:44
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Nice of you to join in, Mila. Never heard of the Yugoslavian bands and completely forgot the music of La Salamandre (great film!). With the first three we are more in jazz-rock territories. Very enjoyable, but at the same time not very spectacular. After the obligatory drum solo (rather conventional) the Smak piece becomes quite amazing, and both Leb i Sol tracks are very enjoyable too, veering sometimes more into melodic/bluesy rock. Difficult to rank these three, which is also why I put Mainhorse on top: a very energetic melodic rock track with that touch of sophistication... After that it becomes a bit of a toss-up: 1. Mainhorse - La Salamandre: 5 points 2. Leb i Sol - Akupunktura: 3 points 3. Smak - Domaci zadatak: 2 points 4 Leb i Sol - Damar: 1 point ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 08:44
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Thanks for the feedback, Kees! Those Yugoslav bands are i.a. known for their fusion of jazz-rock and traditional Balkan sounds. I was a bit torn between those and their more Western sounding tracks. I may have made the wrong choice. Anyway, I just wanted to show something different and introduce a few lesser known bands. It doesn't make much sense to me to bring in internationally known bands or bands that sound like many others.- As a non-aligned country Yugoslavia played a pioneering role in Eastern Europe in many ways. And yes, you are right, I'm rather into jazz and jazz fusion than into prog rock. Moreover, in the field of rock I'm rather into psychedelic, punk, garage rock etc.- As for Mainhorse, Switzerland is of course very pround of their prog hero, Patrick Moraz! :)
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 09:07
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jamesbaldwin: Quatermass - Laughin' Tackle (5 points) Tim Buckley - Lorca (3 points) Henry Cow - Beautiful As The Moon (2 points) Roxy Music - A Song For Europe (1 point) suitkees: Alquin - Soft Royce (5 points) Saga - Humble Stance (3 points) Ange - À Colin-Maillard (2 points) Grobschnitt - Severity Town (1 point) nick_h_nz: Split Enz - Stranger Than Fiction (5 points) Airlord - Ladies Of The Night (3 points) Ragnarok - Caviar Queen (2 points) Dragon - La Gash Lagoon (1 point) ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 12:56
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@Mila No problem of time! We can take the next two weeks! I suggest to start with the vote on Tuesday 26th. @all I suggest to follow the idea of suitkees with the selection of Bald Jean! PS I am surprised! It's lovely you are so fast to put the points. I'm on holiday, i'Ll Do it with calm ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 13:20
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^ You mean BaldFriede?! Jean only suggested four... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 15:24
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Friede: I will not include Hawkwind unless it is and then adjust my ranks. The Hillage track stood out for me, so it gets my top spot, and then it gets difficult. The Guru Guru track did not feel as cohesive for such a long track, and Embryo edges it. I had a hard time deciding where High Tide should go but was won over by the guitar. 1. Steve Hillage - 5 pts 2. High Tide - 3 pts 3. Embryo - 2 pts 4. Guru Guru - 1 pt |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 17:33
I know very well this High Tide album, which I consider a small masterpiece, the completely new musical mix they gave birth, between acid-blues, acid folk, psychedelia (great work on the violin) is excellent. First place, 5 points Emrbyo are very close, theirs is a more classical musical form, similar to the blues jam, but very inventive and inspired, second place, 3 points. Guru Gurus is a group that I have followed sometimes for their creativity, the song is definitely experimental and not very melodic, certainly a valuable art-work, even if it does not excite me like the previous ones (it is more refined and cerebral), 2 points Steve Hillage's song, although very refined, seems to me very evanescent, more tricks of the trade than from musical inspiration, 1 point. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 18:00
Argent - Rather repetitive song based on the rhythm and the chorus repeating a phrase in an obsessive way, the creative part is mainly left to the organist. It doesn't excite me. 2 points Hawkwind - instrumental piece based on a blues riff that makes the backbone, but it is not my cup of tea (I prefer other Hawkwind songs), 1 point Jeff Beck, perhaps the best guitarist since Jimi Hendrix, pulls out a rockblues piece with an acid guitar sound, then the keyboards repeat the riff, virtuosic song, 3 points The Residents, a song taken from their masterpiece, I don't often listen to this kind of cerebral and "cultured" music, with refined sounds, dissonant pieces, use of vocals in an anti-melodic sense, but here experimentalism is not an end in itself, music is not penalized from the research of the sound, and the whole composition takes the form of a completely coherent avant-garde theatrical piece, in short, a masterpiece, certainly a contender for my final vote, 5 points. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 11:50
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Cristi, don't you join us? You got time ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 11:57
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Friede This has been the toughest set of four yet for me to rank, with all four tracks being impressive in their own way. This is how I’ve ranked them today, but it’s definitely with the knowledge that I could easily come up with a completely different ranking on another day. Embryo - 5 points High Tide - 3 points Guru Guru - 2 points Steve Hillage - 1 point Christian Conversely, this was one of the easiest selection of four to rank for me. All but Manfred Mann’s Earth Band could easily have been five pointers in any other selection. Here they had to compete with each other, but my order of preference was clear. Luciano Cilio - 5 points Association PC - 3 points Birth Control - 2 points Manfred Mann’s Earth Band - 1 point ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 13:29
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@Lorenzo, I think you will have to contact Cristi either by PM or by posting your message in the team thread. If I'm not mistaken, he hasn't visited this thread so far.- How many of our suggestions will be included in the final selection, still two per participant? |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 15:36
| Even though I am participating, I have found it easy to overlook this thread because it doesn't have "Interactive Poll" in the title. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 15:48
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Jean: The top spot goes to Can. Then selected Clearlight, which I had not heard before. Almost prog by numbers, I enjoyed it. Thought Dzyan was a bit too free form and not composed, so Popol Vuh in the third spot. 1. Can - 5 pts 2. Clearlight - 3 pts 3. Popol Vuh - 2 pts 4. Dzyan - 1 pt |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 16:42
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George: The Utopia and FM tracks sound very attractive to me, the other two not quite as much. 5 FM 3 Utopia 2 Colosseum II 1 Be Bop Deluxe
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 16:47
Yes, I am writing to Cristi. Yes, two songs per partecipant will be included in the final selection, the two with the higher score. And we will vote for three song. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 17:26
Colosseum II - Elegant song but in my opinion it lacks of inspiration, I don't find real emotional transport, 1 point Be Bop Deluxe - Good hard rock track, more of a blues jam than a prog song, it reminds me of the Jimi Hendrix Experience. 2 Points FM - Very percussive track, actually hard-rock up to 4 minutes, when an electric guitar solo explodes, then there is a pause that reminds me of those that Rush do, but which in this case is much longer, too much long, then the initial percussion resumes the rock rhythm. It's not a real mini-suite, it's a dilated song with a long instrumental pause. Nearly beats the Be Bop Deluxe song, 3 points Utopia - is the song with the most prog composition of the selection, and although I'm not enthusiastic I appreciate its value, it's a very well done song, 5 points ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 17:52
Traffic - Song taken from an album that is considered a classic, although never completely loved by anyone because on the border between rock, soul and progressive (as always happens in Winwood). I love this album, its sound, arrangements, Winwood's voice, but this is not one of my favorite songs, too relaxed, but still beautiful especially in the second part when the rhythm increases. 3 Points Anthony Phillips - mini suite of melodic folk with some rather exciting acoustic passages reminiscent of acoustic pieces with Hackett and Gabriel, very well arranged and composed, approaches the masterpiece, perhaps only the climax is missing, 5 points Alquin - I think I've heard the name of this Danish band before! The vocals are the best part of the song but overall the whole composition is a pleasure, it undermines the third place of the Gnidrolog, but I put it in the fourth, 1 point Gnidrolog - beautiful sound both the initial bass and the sax (but is it a sax?), the composition has a good development and the first part is better than that of the Traffic but strangely it loses its liveliness when the vocals arrive, so third place, 2 points ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 18 2022 at 22:45
We are currently 9-10 people (depending on whether Friederike and Jean are one ore two persons) plus Cristi if he joins. If we have 2 songs each that would make at least 20 songs in the final selection. 3 votes are definitely too few here, esp. given the fact that it is about prog, that is the average duration of those tracks is quite long. I suggested earlier (at least) 4 votes per person in the final which is not much either but it would however make things a bit easier for us. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 02:39
Or we could change from two songs per poster to only one (with the highest points). That, for me, would be a lot easier, and considerably more preferable, than a hanging the votes per person from three to four - which really doesn’t help in any way with listening to so many songs at once, for the purpose of voting. There is a reason I participate more in the interactive polls submission stage, than voting stage - and it is because I can rarely find the time to listen to all the songs in one go, in order for my vote to be as fair as possible. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 07:17
I would like to clarify some issues. 1) The number of votes. A request has already arisen several times, by someone, to raise the number of votes from 3 to 5. For example, I had proposed to give 5 votes when we had reached almost 25 nominations, but many had preferred to keep the three preferences, and so I gave up on this idea. Even The Anders, after me, had proposed 5 votes, and if I am not mistaken, Mila had already proposed it in the past, and my answer was that so far the majority has preferred to give 3 votes. I had added that, however, the last decision rests with whoever opens the poll. If Mila wants to open a poll with 5 votes, she can do it (first it would always be better to monitor if it is liked by others). In this case, I thought about the usual 3 votes. I wouldn't mind giving 4 votes, but only if requested by other friends. 2) This poll is very demanding, we have to listen to a lot of songs, but I designed it that way because I thought there were few of us. Now we are in good numbers, and despite this almost everyone has already put in order the 4 proposals of the other forumists. I am surprised and happy for your participation. 3) For the final selection, precisely because we have already listened to 4 songs for each participant, I believe it is right to make two nominations, because then it should not be difficult to choose the three we like most. For example, I will not have to listen to all the nominations to choose my 3 favorites, I think at the most I will listen to 4 or 5 again. Maybe Nick is more precise than me and will have to listen to them all again, but it will still be a second listen. But if many think like Nick, we could only make one nomination. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 07:29
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Honestly, for me, the voting is the least interesting part of the interactive polls, and I wouldn’t care if there were no poll at all. So my opinion on the number of votes is probably best ignored. If it makes others happy to have four votes, or even five, then go for it. The submissions and the discussion is what I come for, and I really wouldn’t care if there were no voting at all…. 🤷🏻♂️🤪 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 12:56
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I think there is not a one-size-fits-all solution. Imo the number of votes should more or less be proportiaonal in terms of the number of participants and the number of tracks included in the final selection. For example 3 votes for up to 12 songs (1:4).- This particular poll is different because there is a preliminary voting which is quite time-consuming. In that regard one track per participant in the final selection would make sense to me.- Anyway, in case of a tie in the preliminary voting, the respective participant should have the last word concering which of his respective suggestions shall be included in the final.- Whether or not the voting should be in general abolished is hard to say but I believe that it gives these threads at least a certain structure. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 14:32
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Oh, I want at all suggesting that the voting be removed. And I still participate in the voting when I am able to find/make time. All I was really saying is it’s not why I’m here, so please don’t pay much attention to my preference for how many votes there “should” be. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 16:31
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(a) I don't mind having many songs in the poll as I will have heard them all anyway. (b) Polls turn up on PA all the time where we are forced to make a decision between songs that we like a lot. For me this is part of the game, so I'm fine with 3 votes, but I can also play a slightly different game with 4 votes. So I don't mind much, but for sure I don't see a necessity to allow more votes. And by the way, I absolutely vote for a participation of Cristi! Very keen to see his nominations. (Of course it's up to him at the end of the day.)
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 23:54
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@Lorenzo, Christian Basically I think 3 votes is ok with an average number of participants, currently 8-11. However a certian flexibility makes sense to me, e.g. if, as is currently the case, each participant can nominate two songs for the final due to a low number of participants. Otherwise the voting makes little sense to me. It takes me too much time to make a choice. I can't listen to those songs over and over again. I lose interest that way. Maybe we should try at some point an edition without any voting at all and see how that goes.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 20 2022 at 01:11
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: July 20 2022 at 15:30
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Welcome on board, Cristi!
 ________ @all: I have repleced one of my songs. It's one of the two songs by the band 'Leb i sol'. The new song is from the same album. I have added a corresponding note, just in case. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 20 2022 at 17:44
5 Points for Hosianna Mantra, a masterpiece song from the Popol Vuh album of the same name. It was one of my candidates. I wrote one of my first reviews on this album. 3 points for Dzyan, who churn out a very original instrumental piece with percussion and bass in the foreground, between jazz improvisations and psychedelia 2 points for Can, with their frenzied instrumental piece, with an almost Caribbean rhythm and jazz improvisations (they did much better, in my opinion). These three pieces are of high quality. The last piece on the contrary does not convince me and seems modest to me. 1 point ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 20 2022 at 18:06
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Christian: These flipped around a lot as each held my attention in different ways. In the end, I just enjoyed JRF of the Asssociation P.C. the most but very strong in second was Luciano Cilio as one that required my attention through the sparse details of the piece. Really liked how it was layered. 1. Association P.C. - 5 pts 2. Luciano Cilio - 3 pts 3. Manfred Mann - 2 pts 4. Birth Control - 1 pt |
Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 03:47
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Is Popol Vuh progressive rock, really? I don't know if I hear that. As for me, Ima be a cliche and pitch in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" Love, DreamTechPlus.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 03:54
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Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 03:56
It all seemed kind of elaborate to me. I wouldn't have posted at all but to wonder if Popol Vuh fits any definition of progressive rock. I figured as long as I was posting might as well throw it in there. If you don't like it you can ignore it. Love, DreamTechPlus.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 03:58
Popol Vuh fits here: http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=17" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=17
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Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 03:59
Interesting. I didn't realise they were considered krautrock either. Love, DreamTechPlus.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 05:15
"Affenstunde" from 1970 and "In den Gärten Pharaos" from 1971 are in the vein of electronic prog, the others are more eclectic with the occasional return to electronic. Since they are German and were right at the beginning of the Krautrock movement it is quite fitting to put them there. I mentioned this several times already: Genres should be given to albums, not to bands; some bands moved between genres a lot, like for example Guru Guru. What should be assigned to the artists are all the genres they ever dabbled in. But apparently this is too much of a software change for this site.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 05:28
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The partecipants are: 1) jamesbaldwin 2) suitkees 3) nick 4) someone else 5) Bald Friede 6) Bald Jean 7) mathman0806 8) prophesy disaster 9) lewian 10) mila 11) cristi. Everyone will nominate 2 songs (the songs with the highest score) There will be 22 songs. We can vote 4 songs. 4, not 3. The vote will start next Wednesday. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 16:56
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Cristi: Sfinx- classic symphonic prog song driven by keyboards and drums, enjoyable, 2 points Good mini-suite that after a rock approach becomes meditative with a long interlude of keyboards before returning to being rock, the most inspired of the selection, 5 points Phoenix - Rather upbeat blues-style rhythm song, doesn't have much prog, 3 points Epitaph - Pleasant song, keyboard-based ballad that seeks the epic effect a la King Crimson, but does not reach a true climax, 1 point. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 17:10
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Epitaph - Visions sounds like if someone wanted to use Epitaph or In the Wake of Poseidon by King Crimson in a cartoon or something but they couldn't get the rights to use KC's music so instead they recruited studio musicians to make a soundalike song. xD ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 17:16
Smak: rock-soul instrumental piece with fast-paced syncopated pieces and short drum solos, pleasant. Points 5 Leb I Sol: Another instrumental piece that after a slow start gets faster and faster, until it becomes frenzied. It's not my cup of tea. Points 1 Leb i Sol again: rock piece led by a guitar turn, but the most interesting part is the musical score of the bass. Slightly better than the previous one. Points 2 Main Horse, with Moraz on keyboards, churns out a contemplative piece with some rough electric guitar features. Points 3 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 17:19
Epitaph are in my opinion a worthy addition to prog-related; their first three albums ("Epitaph" from 1971, "Stop Look and Listen" from 1972 and "Outside the Law" from 1974) are all very good. I love the dual lead guitar in many songs. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 17:25
@BaldFriede @BaldJean I hope you will contribute to the poll by putting the points to the selection of the other participants
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 17:29
Well, in my opinion that song is too much epigonic of King Crimson. But I dont know that group and so I cant evaluate their music. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 17:30
Suitkees, Mila have changed the fourth song, you should listen to the other one. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 17:52
Lorenzo Cilio: Christian had already recommended this album to me, which is practically unknown in Italy. We are faced with a very refined, spiritual Chamber music, reminiscent of the Third Ear Band, but which has its own more pronounced and less improvised melody - closed to the small masterpiece, 5 points Manfred Mann: very pleasant commercial song based on the rhythm and melody of the keyboards, good sung parts, 2 points Birth Control: interlocutory beginning, then with the change of tempo the prog ambitions and the refinement of the sound come out, the song rises in quality, math rock ending. Song that lacks a mighty inspirational heart, but with a good musical score and that it is performed very well. 3 Points Association, very sustained (and too long) jam rockblues that is saved for keyboard solos, 1 point ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |