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Here's Italian avant-prog band Zu collaborating with guitarist Eugene Chadbourne on a classic song. Approach with caution. 



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From Tunisia (2nd suggestion):

Dhafer Youssef: 39th Gülay (to Istanbul) (Album: Birds Requiem, 2013)

Some of you may know this excellent and versatile jazz musician but there is always someone you can surprise. Enjoy!

p.s. Anders, I will add this to my first post on page 1 to make things easier for you.



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Suggestion no. 3:

Dissòi Logòi: Delfini


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2022 at 10:59
My first suggestion is Iness Mezel - Amazone.

Iness Mezel is a French-Algerian musician. In this rather hypnotic track she mixes north African instrumentation with rock guitar. It makes for quite an interesting musical experience.




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Out of competition:





This film ("Mediterraneo" by Gabriele Salvatore, starring Diego Abatantuono) marked a generation of Italians.

It won the Oscar for best foreign film, thanks to the stereotype of Italians unable to make war.

The director was friend with most of the actors, they started with the theater, with cabaret, in Milan.

In the film, a Turk makes Italian soldiers smoke and then steals their weapons. Smoking what? We do not know, but obviously from the way they laugh it was not just tobacco. And the lieutenant later said: Isn't it better if everyone brings us this smoke and steals our weapons?

The director said in an interview that this was the message of the film: it is better to smoke cannabis in company than to use weapons. And it is likely that the actors in the film actually smoked cannabis.

In the video, the music of the film, the Greek Sirtaki.
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I definitely agree with the smoking vs weapons thing. I'm not so sure, though whether the intended message of that film comes across that way. These soldiers did not land in that Greek village by chance, in the fateful year of 1941. But the music is great. I wasn't aware that Giancarlo Bigazzi wrote the soundtrack. :)
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First song i thought of, tell me if it's not a good fit.


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Dick Dale (formerly Richard Monsour) was Lebanese on his father's side of the family. His uncle taught him how to play the tarabaki and oud. It is from his uncle playing on the one-string oud that Dale derived the electric version of the Eastern Mediterranean folk song "Miserlou" (popular from the 1920s onward among Turkish, Greek, Jewish and Arabic musicians), which Dale renamed "Misirlou".






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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I definitely agree with the smoking vs weapons thing. I'm not so sure, though whether the intended message of that film comes across that way. These soldiers did not land in that Greek village by chance, in the fateful year of 1941. But the music is great. I wasn't aware that Giancarlo Bigazzi wrote the soundtrack. :)


In fact, as we know, that group of men went to the island of Castelrosso (in Greek: Megisti), a very small island in the Dodecanese to fight the war of the fascist regime against England.

In the Dodecanese there are still many buildings from the Fascist era, and I discovered by going to the island of Rhodes that the inhabitants still speak Italian.

At this point I take the opportunity for a curiosity, in the American film The guns of Navarone (Gregory Peck, David Niven, Anthony Quinn), set on an invented island of the Dodecanese, you can see some buildings of Rhodes, where much of the film was shot.

On the island of Rhodes, Anthony Quinn bought a beach, which he discovered while acting in the film, and today it still exists, named with his name, even if it is no longer managed by family members: I have been there, small but beautiful.


Palace of the Grand Master of the Knights of Rhodes, built during the fascist domination, clearly visible in the film The Guns of Navarone.




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From Spain (3rd suggestion)


An Andalusian rock band, formed in Seville in 2017, with varied influences such as flamenco, psychedelic rock, progeressive rock and stoner rock.

The song is from their debut, selftitled album which was released in 2019. The lyrics are based on a poem by Federico Garcia Lorca. This song has been performed before by Camaron de la Isla, considered by many the best contemporary flamenco singer ever. He passed away in 1992 at the age of just 41.

p.s. Anders, this too will be added to my first post on page 1.



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@Lorenzo - I think this is medieval Gothic architecture which is rather rare in Greece. It certainly has a particular historical background but that dates back much longer. Maybe the fascists used this castle/fortress as a headquarter or something like that. But thanks for the info about Guns of Navarone. I watched that movie, but wasn't aware that it was shot on Rhodes Island. As for "Mediterraneo", it is a rather controversial film, against the historic background of the atrocities commited against the Greek population during ww2.



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Ah, the topic gives me the opportunity for the first time to play something from Patrizio Fariselli's (keyboarder of Area) delightful album 100 Ghosts. Should be on PA but isn't. Here is "Iqbal".

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My take on the suggestions put up so far...:

Greg (Logan): Nice soothing Greekish track by Stringtronics. The Mediterranian touch is especially brought in through the guitar (and some spare castanets...). This is a kind of "Sunset at the Beach" music. Too short, though.

Samuel (Meltdowner): Didn't know Joan Bibiloni. Another soothing track, but more jazzy. Here I imagine myself in a hammock between two palm trees on a Catalan beach, sipping a cocktail (although I'm not fan of cocktails...). This is a nice synth dominated atmospheric track.

Lorenzo (jamesbaldwin): Officina Zoè, Baba Sissoko, Mamani Keita and Sourakhata Dioubate bring us with Santu Paulu a more African tinged track. Starting off with a gentle percussion this becomes more and more energetic and when the violin and bandoneon set in we're definitely on Mediterranean shores. It creates a kind of African guinguette festive atmosphere (someone said "fusion"?). Yes we dance! With Napoli Centrale we are in proggy territories, mixing jazz rock, rock, and some folk elements. Didn't know them (I think), but I like what I hear. You've been presenting us Dissòi Logòi before and I already liked it then. This one is piano dominated, with some Fripp-like guitar playing. Very jazzy at the beginning, before a more contemporary music style takes over, then mixing both into something really wonderful. Very original; this definitely is my preferred one.

Mila: Monsieur Doumani proposes us an interesting instrumentation with the electric saz and the trombone. To my ears this is a very contemporary kind of psych-folk-rock with a distinct Eastern Mediterranean flavor. Very nice. Dhafer Youssef is indeed more well known, but always good to hear, mixing traditional instruments (oud, qanun, clarinette...) in contemporary jazz rock. Great track! Never heard of Derby Motoreta’s Burrito Kachimba, but this immediately captivates me: a wonderful voice and singing style mixed here with some trance inducing (hard) rock/metal. A very good surprise, this one!

Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. I Didn't know of Patrizio Fariselli's solo outing, a jazzy, folky, Eastern mix with a very contemporary (rock) feel to it. Wonderful vocalizations. I really like this one!

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Pekka (Hiram): Ah, ah, a Black Sabbath classic reworked by Zu and Eugene Chadbourne, adding a bit more madness to it. But it remains a classic! Interesting!

Anders: Oh yes, I like this. I remember having heard a track by Iness Mezel on the radio, but I should have paid more attention. I really dig this mix of rock and african rhythms and love her singing style. Great one!

Cristi: New Trolls with a real adagio, but in a symphonic prog sauce. Nice, but to my liking maybe a bit too timid in mixing rock and classical, this one. With Enrico Simonetti we are in soundtrack territory - a very beautiful track this one, mixing classic with rock and a touch of jazz. I prefer this one over the Trolls.

Greg (The Dark Elf): Thank you for this historical take on this indeed very famous track, Miserlou, here by Dick Dale & The Del Tones. Great all time classic! Easy to imagine this originated, for him, on an oud, maybe less obvious that it became a classic rock&roll tune...


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Thank you Kees for the comment :)

Here's a second suggestion from me, and it will probably be between the two. Nadah el Shazly is an Egyptian musician which I discovered a couple of years ago. The song is called "Mahmiya".


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Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. 


This version or another one as already pointed out by Lorenzo? It seems I'm getting old. Shocked
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:



Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. 

This version or another one as already pointed out by Lorenzo? It seems I'm getting old. Shocked

The guy who made the video for the Black Cat White Cat theme made an error. The composer of that soundtrack is not Bregovich as many wrongly assume. It is offically composed by the Black Cat White Cat Orchestra. But in fact it is a pseudonym for the No Smoking Orchestra that was then searching for a new name since the separation with the old members was still fresh. The original No Smoking band was founded in Sarajevo in the early 1980s. They did garage/punk rock, sometimes with reference to Bosnian folk music. That's why this soundtrack is more rocking than those by Bregovich, even though he too is originally a rock musician. Kusturica has toured a lot with the No Smoking Orchestra. He always started their concerts with the famous Bogart quote from Casablanca: "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship". Smile



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What a sad day! The legendary Greek composer Vangelis has passed away today due to covid. RIP grand master.



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These are the suggested songs so far. 20 songs - 10 participants. In case you want to listen to the songs now or later and maybe even comment on them. The songs of the individual participants follow one after the other in groups.- Btw. I picked a different song from my Cypriot band.



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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


My take on the suggestions put up so far...:

Greg (Logan): Nice soothing Greekish track by Stringtronics. The Mediterranian touch is especially brought in through the guitar (and some spare castanets...). This is a kind of "Sunset at the Beach" music. Too short, though.

Samuel (Meltdowner): Didn't know Joan Bibiloni. Another soothing track, but more jazzy. Here I imagine myself in a hammock between two palm trees on a Catalan beach, sipping a cocktail (although I'm not fan of cocktails...). This is a nice synth dominated atmospheric track.

Lorenzo (jamesbaldwin): Officina Zoè, Baba Sissoko, Mamani Keita and Sourakhata Dioubate bring us with Santu Paulu a more African tinged track. Starting off with a gentle percussion this becomes more and more energetic and when the violin and bandoneon set in we're definitely on Mediterranean shores. It creates a kind of African guinguette festive atmosphere (someone said "fusion"?). Yes we dance! With Napoli Centrale we are in proggy territories, mixing jazz rock, rock, and some folk elements. Didn't know them (I think), but I like what I hear. You've been presenting us Dissòi Logòi before and I already liked it then. This one is piano dominated, with some Fripp-like guitar playing. Very jazzy at the beginning, before a more contemporary music style takes over, then mixing both into something really wonderful. Very original; this definitely is my preferred one.

Mila: Monsieur Doumani proposes us an interesting instrumentation with the electric saz and the trombone. To my ears this is a very contemporary kind of psych-folk-rock with a distinct Eastern Mediterranean flavor. Very nice. Dhafer Youssef is indeed more well known, but always good to hear, mixing traditional instruments (oud, qanun, clarinette...) in contemporary jazz rock. Great track! Never heard of Derby Motoreta’s Burrito Kachimba, but this immediately captivates me: a wonderful voice and singing style mixed here with some trance inducing (hard) rock/metal. A very good surprise, this one!

Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. I Didn't know of Patrizio Fariselli's solo outing, a jazzy, folky, Eastern mix with a very contemporary (rock) feel to it. Wonderful vocalizations. I really like this one!

suitkees: You do know that France is not the center of the world, do you?

Pekka (Hiram): Ah, ah, a Black Sabbath classic reworked by Zu and Eugene Chadbourne, adding a bit more madness to it. But it remains a classic! Interesting!

Anders: Oh yes, I like this. I remember having heard a track by Iness Mezel on the radio, but I should have paid more attention. I really dig this mix of rock and african rhythms and love her singing style. Great one!

Cristi: New Trolls with a real adagio, but in a symphonic prog sauce. Nice, but to my liking maybe a bit too timid in mixing rock and classical, this one. With Enrico Simonetti we are in soundtrack territory - a very beautiful track this one, mixing classic with rock and a touch of jazz. I prefer this one over the Trolls.

Greg (The Dark Elf): Thank you for this historical take on this indeed very famous track, Miserlou, here by Dick Dale & The Del Tones. Great all time classic! Easy to imagine this originated, for him, on an oud, maybe less obvious that it became a classic rock&roll tune...


Oh yeah, wonderful work!


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