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Poll Question: Do you stay away from prog-metal?
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7 [8.05%]
20 [22.99%]
12 [13.79%]
13 [14.94%]
18 [20.69%]
8 [9.20%]
4 [4.60%]
0 [0.00%]
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As a serious answer, I can say I abhor djent, which infested and contaminated prog metal. I like intelligently odd time signatures, not moronic djenty garbage.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


You could still listen to it somewhere online. I remember listening to Systematic Chaos somewhere and to this day it's one of the least favorite DT albums for me, glad I didn't buy it before listening. 
Until I first went online in 2010, I had no idea you could listen to music on the Internet, mainly because I still thought You Tube was the name of a TV show.   Embarrassed

Not surprisingly, I'm no fan of Dream Theater's Systematic Chaos album either, although I'll resist the temptation to give it a thumbs down. Smile

How does anyone not know about the internet in 2010? Confused
I must have led a sheltered life. Tongue

In my defence though, there were no full albums on YouTube in 2010 -  videos were still limited to 15 minutes duration back then. 

I still find that hard to believe. It's still 2010, not the 90s or early 2000s. 
It's not that hard to believe. Don't forget, there was no YouTube before 2005. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I still find that hard to believe. It's still 2010, not the 90s or early 2000s. 
It's not that hard to believe. Don't forget, there was no YouTube before 2005. Smile
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No, I mean anyone not familiar with the internet in 2010. 
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^ He didn't say he didn't know that the internet exists. He just didn't know one can listen to music on the internet. 

There should be lots of people who still don't use the internet. It is not THAT weird.
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

As a serious answer, I can say I abhor djent, which infested and contaminated prog metal. I like intelligently odd time signatures, not moronic djenty garbage.

Who are some of your favourite Prog Metal bands?
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

As a serious answer, I can say I abhor djent, which infested and contaminated prog metal. I like intelligently odd time signatures, not moronic djenty garbage.

Who are some of your favourite Prog Metal bands?

Symphony X, Beyond Twilight, Vanden Plas, Royal Hunt, Conception...
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ He didn't say he didn't know that the internet exists. He just didn't know one can listen to music on the internet. 

There should be lots of people who still don't use the internet. It is not THAT weird.

He's from England, so that's why I find it hard to believe he wasn't familiar with the internet until 2010. 
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^ It is very easy to believe for me, not even surprising.
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I like most prog metal, and most of it that I've come to be familiar with is/was due to PA!  I was never a real "metal head" growing up (except some early Rush); now I like it more than ever, and have even gotten into some of the growls (which I used to despise).

But nearly all my friends who like Prog (to some degree--few are actually "prog-heads" like I am) do NOT generally like the prog metal I've presented to them.

BTW, so far, this poll seems to verify the conversation of just a couple days ago in my random shuffle post: (someone suggested PA was becoming "metal archives" but this comment was met with much disagreement, and I suggested heavier tracks seemed not to do as well in the random polls).


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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ It is very easy to believe for me, not even surprising.

ok if you believe that, I just do not. Smile
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^ Oh, you believe Paul is lying here... OK, I'm not his advocate after all. LOL
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ Oh, you believe Paul is lying here... OK, I'm not his advocate after all. LOL

Not lying, inventing stories, maybe joking, maybe trolling. Smile
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^ Technically, you're saying he's lying about not having been familiar with the internet before the year 2010. I didn't say you accuse him of being a liar. According to you, he is not telling the truth here. I would be surprised if that is the fact. Wink

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

David, which are the 10 PM albums you like? We might be able to point you in the direction of something similar?

Fates Warning  (USA)          The Spectre Within                         (Prog, a. 2014)   (1985)

Psychotic Waltz  (USA)         Into the Everflow                         (Prog, a. 2010)    (1992)

Gordian Knot  (USA)            Gordian Knot                                (Prog, a. 2009)    (1999)

Tool                                    Lateralus                             (Alternative/Prog, a. 2010)   (2001)

Aesma Daeva  (USA)            The Eros of Frigid Beauty      (Symph/Goth/Prog, a. 2022 Tongue) (2001)

Taal  (F)                              Skymind                                         (Prog, a. 2011)   (2002)

OSI  (USA)                          Office Of Strategic Influence               (Prog, a. 2012)   (2003)

Indukti  (PL)                        S.U.S.A.R.                                       (Prog, a. 2011)    (2004)

Riverside  (PL)                     Second Life Syndrome                      (Prog, a. 2018)   (2005)


I can tell that I like best heavy and organic, not synthetic sound, and not much Pop-influence.


As I seem to have seen it, most of Prog Metal is influenced by Neo-Prog, and what I like is that without this influence. At the same time, I don't like growling vocals, so it hasn't been easy for me with Prog Metal, and it has been some easier with non-Prog.


Edited by David_D - May 12 2022 at 10:26
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I love metal like a tooth love drills.
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Who are some of your favourite Prog Metal bands?

Symphony X, Beyond Twilight, Vanden Plas, Royal Hunt, Conception...

I'll check out those I don't know. 


Edited by David_D - May 12 2022 at 09:31
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I can't believe someone thinks Arena are prog metal. Ok, maybe the later stuff is but they certainly started out as more neo prog. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ He didn't say he didn't know that the internet exists. He just didn't know one can listen to music on the internet. 

There should be lots of people who still don't use the internet. It is not THAT weird.

He's from England, so that's why I find it hard to believe he wasn't familiar with the internet until 2010. 
Would you also find it hard to believe that I've never owned a mobile phone? Smile
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I stay pretty far away from it, but I do own a few titles:

Ksiz - Nerve of War
Liquid Tension Experiment - I and II
Special Providence - Soul Alert

The last two are more proggy and less metallic, IMO.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Would you also find it hard to believe that I've never owned a mobile phone? Smile

Actually, I do find that hard to believe, not because mobile phones are such wonderful things and how could you be without one, but because there are forces at work pushing us all into having a smart phone simply to prove who we are.
 
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