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Poll Question: Do you stay away from prog-metal?
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I prefer Systematic Chaos more than Train of Thought, The Astonishing, Octavarium, self titled, or A View from the Top of the World.

Over The Astonishing, yes, i agree, as for the rest, not quite. 
I still need to listen to the new one some more. I enjoyed Distance Over Time a lot more. 
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I prefer Systematic Chaos more than Train of Thought, The Astonishing, Octavarium, self titled, or A View from the Top of the World.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


You could still listen to it somewhere online. I remember listening to Systematic Chaos somewhere and to this day it's one of the least favorite DT albums for me, glad I didn't buy it before listening. 
Until I first went online in 2010, I had no idea you could listen to music on the Internet, mainly because I still thought You Tube was the name of a TV show.   Embarrassed

Not surprisingly, I'm no fan of Dream Theater's Systematic Chaos album either, although I'll resist the temptation to give it a thumbs down. Smile

How does anyone not know about the internet in 2010? Confused
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Well, I would never give any of your posts the thumbs down. That would be rude. Embarrassed

To be honest, I wouldn't have bought Dream Theater's Train of Thought if I'd listened to the album first. 

when did you buy it? 
I couldn't tell you the exact year but I remember buying Train of Thought before 2010, when I first went online. Even now, I often buy albums without hearing them first, but that's usually because they only cost £1 from a charity shop or car boot sale. Smile

You could still listen to it somewhere online. I remember listening to Systematic Chaos somewhere and to this day it's one of the least favorite DT albums for me, glad I didn't buy it before listening. 
Until I first went online in 2010, I had no idea you could listen to music on the Internet, mainly because I still thought You Tube was the name of a TV show.   Embarrassed

Not surprisingly, I'm no fan of Dream Theater's Systematic Chaos album either, although I'll resist the temptation to give it a thumbs down. Smile
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Sometimes. Depends on my mood. Makes a great companion for yardwork.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ My approach to music is the total opposite from "scatter gun". I always listen to artists and albums in alphabetical and chronological order. Smile

LOL  I've noticed, but then I can say that the last 15 years, my approach has been very systematical, as well (top lists). Big smile


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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David, which are the 10 PM albums you like? We might be able to point you in the direction of something similar?

Fates Warning  (USA)          The Spectre Within                         (Prog, a. 2014)   (1985)

Psychotic Waltz  (USA)         Into the Everflow                         (Prog, a. 2010)    (1992)

Gordian Knot  (USA)            Gordian Knot                                (Prog, a. 2009)    (1999)

Tool                                    Lateralus                             (Alternative/Prog, a. 2010)   (2001)

Aesma Daeva  (USA)            The Eros of Frigid Beauty      (Symph/Goth/Prog, a. 2022 Tongue) (2001)

Taal  (F)                              Skymind                                         (Prog, a. 2011)   (2002)

OSI  (USA)                          Office Of Strategic Influence               (Prog, a. 2012)   (2003)

Indukti  (PL)                        S.U.S.A.R.                                       (Prog, a. 2011)    (2004)

Riverside  (PL)                     Second Life Syndrome                      (Prog, a. 2018)   (2005)


I can tell that I like best heavy and organic, not synthetic sound, and not much Pop-influence.



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Well, I would never give any of your posts the thumbs down. That would be rude. Embarrassed

To be honest, I wouldn't have bought Dream Theater's Train of Thought if I'd listened to the album first. 

when did you buy it? 
I couldn't tell you the exact year but I remember buying Train of Thought before 2010, when I first went online. Even now, I often buy albums without hearing them first, but that's usually because they only cost £1 from a charity shop or car boot sale. Smile

You could still listen to it somewhere online. I remember listening to Systematic Chaos somewhere and to this day it's one of the least favorite DT albums for me, glad I didn't buy it before listening. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The only Progressive Metal bands I listen to are Ayreon and Dream Theater, but I listen to an Epica mount of Symphonic Metal. Smile

plus maybe a new discovery, Riverside Big smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Well, I would never give any of your posts the thumbs down. That would be rude. Embarrassed

To be honest, I wouldn't have bought Dream Theater's Train of Thought if I'd listened to the album first. 

when did you buy it? 
I couldn't tell you the exact year but I remember buying Train of Thought before 2010, when I first went online. Even now, I often buy albums without hearing them first, but that's usually because they only cost £1 from a charity shop or car boot sale, so I don't have much to lose. Smile


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Well, I would never give any of your posts the thumbs down. That would be rude. Embarrassed

To be honest, I wouldn't have bought Dream Theater's Train of Thought if I'd listened to the album first. 

when did you buy it? 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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You're right.  I'm not keen on Train of Thought at all. I've only listened to it once. Thumbs Down

What are you thumbing down again here? Ouch
Train of Thought is my least favourite Dream Theater album, so I'm hardly likely to give it a thumbs up. Smile

Nobody uses the thumbs down emoticon to express dislike for an artist or album, only you. It feels arrogant TBH. 
When else am I going to use the thumbs down icon other than expressing my dislike for an artist or album? 

When someone behaves inappropriately for example.
Also you have expressed your dislike through words, there's no need for the emoticon, it's redundant. 

Well, I would never give any of your posts the thumbs down. That would be rude. Embarrassed

To be honest, I wouldn't have bought Dream Theater's Train of Thought if I'd listened to the album first. 
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Originally posted by Duddick Duddick wrote:

I really don’t like anything metal-related. I just can’t get into it. No prob with old school heavy rock though….

what do you mean by "old school heavy rock"? Is it Sabbath, Heep and Purple? Budgie, High Tide and Rainbow? 
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I really don’t like anything metal-related. I just can’t get into it. No prob with old school heavy rock though….
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

You're right.  I'm not keen on Train of Thought at all. I've only listened to it once. Thumbs Down

What are you thumbing down again here? Ouch
Train of Thought is my least favourite Dream Theater album, so I'm hardly likely to give it a thumbs up. Smile

Nobody uses the thumbs down emoticon to express dislike for an artist or album, only you. It feels arrogant TBH. 
When else am I going to use the thumbs down icon other than expressing my dislike for an artist or album? 

When someone behaves inappropriately for example.
Also you have expressed your dislike through words, there's no need for the emoticon, it's redundant. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

You're right.  I'm not keen on Train of Thought at all. I've only listened to it once. Thumbs Down

What are you thumbing down again here? Ouch
Train of Thought is my least favourite Dream Theater album, so I'm hardly likely to give it a thumbs up. Smile

Nobody uses the thumbs down emoticon to express dislike for an artist or album, only you. It feels arrogant TBH. 
When else am I going to use the thumbs down icon other than expressing my dislike for an artist or album? 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

You're right.  I'm not keen on Train of Thought at all. I've only listened to it once. Thumbs Down

What are you thumbing down again here? Ouch
Train of Thought is my least favourite Dream Theater album, so I'm hardly likely to give it a thumbs up. Smile

Nobody uses the thumbs down emoticon to express dislike for an artist or album, only you. It feels arrogant TBH. 


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Not usually (I like quite a bit of it).
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

You're right.  I'm not keen on Train of Thought at all. I've only listened to it once. Thumbs Down

What are you thumbing down again here? Ouch
Train of Thought is my least favourite Dream Theater album, so I'm hardly likely to give it a thumbs up. Smile
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Usually but not always...

I have a couple of Dream Theater albums (the earlier work), two Queensr˙che albums (Operation Mindcrime and Empire), two Savatage albums (of which I actually only really enjoy one: Gutter Ballet) and I think that's about it.
I've listened to much more, also from these same bands, but most of it leaves me rather indifferent or is more of the same or just annoys me (especially when djent and the double bass drum seem to become something obligatory without doing it justice to the music...); to my ears it is often very formulaic (as is a lot of music, prog included, anyway).


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