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Les Fragments De La Nuit... maybe even more violin (a string octet really) then you want. By they got some percussion/a percussive approach - which is probably the reason they're at PA at all
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Ukrainian instrumental progressive rock band Silent Grace uses viola Smile

 




Shepherds of Cassini are a New Zealand's experimental metal band that uses violin:





Minnesota's instrumental progressive rock band The Galactic Cowboy Orchestra, live at Raga Piloo, 2012:








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^Welcome to PA Qrofous. All clips you posted were great. 

Les Fragments De La Nuit is awesome but not prog for me. Thanks.

Slowly browsing all suggested bands. Some great ones. Approve


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Les Fragments De La Nuit is awesome but not prog. Thanks.
Well, they are listed here (in RIO-Avant) for a reason - this live concert doesn't display everything that they are about. Sure, they're not prog like Yes or Genesis and probably of little interest if that's the "only" prog you crave. But then again you could say that about most bands represented in the Archives. Glad you liked them though. They're great.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:


Les Fragments De La Nuit is awesome but not prog. Thanks.
Well, they are listed here (in RIO-Avant) for a reason - this live concert doesn't display everything that they are about. Sure, they're not prog like Yes or Genesis and probably of little interest if that's the "only" prog you crave. But then again you could say that about most bands represented in the Archives. Glad you liked them though. They're great.
Grumpyprogfan has right. Les Fragments de la Nuit are very nice but not "prog" at all, let's forget Yes and Genesis. Les Fragments de la Nuit is quite a minimalist neoclassical repetitive sextet in the vein of Arvo Pärt.
However, if you for a change might want to hear an avant-garde approach to progressive rock that features a violin, I suggest you to check out Brooklyn's band Starring, also in PA [this is actually a viola, but as I presume that it would does matter regarding Les Fragments de la Nuit, it doesn't really matter in this case, lol] :




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Prog-wise, Stella Lee Jones' last album is nice.
That aside--hoping this isn't too brazen--I'm going to veer of track a little as this next recommendation is neither prog nor one that features a violin (but a relative of sorts): Murder by Death's Who Will Survive, and What Will Be Left of Them. Because while it isn't prog, it's nonetheless an interesting conceptual rock album, and while it doesn't have a violin, it does have cello.
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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

I was randomly humming on songs by Meer today, and realized it was a violin line.
Spooky! I was just listening to them.
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Originally posted by Kokil Kokil wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:


Les Fragments De La Nuit is awesome but not prog. Thanks.
Well, they are listed here (in RIO-Avant) for a reason - this live concert doesn't display everything that they are about. Sure, they're not prog like Yes or Genesis and probably of little interest if that's the "only" prog you crave. But then again you could say that about most bands represented in the Archives. Glad you liked them though. They're great.
Grumpyprogfan has right. Les Fragments de la Nuit are very nice but not "prog" at all, let's forget Yes and Genesis. Les Fragments de la Nuit is quite a minimalist neoclassical repetitive sextet in the vein of Arvo Pärt.
However, if you for a change might want to hear an avant-garde approach to progressive rock that features a violin, I suggest you to check out Brooklyn's band Starring, also in PA [this is actually a viola, but as I presume that it would does matter regarding Les Fragments de la Nuit, it doesn't really matter in this case, lol] :

What do you mean change your mind - about what? I know what they sound like and where they are coming from. I've heard all of Les Fragments de la Nuit albums (have you?) - which is why I understand why they are included in the RIO/Avant section on Progarchives. It wasn't me who did it, so someone else decided they fit in here. On a studio album they sometimes sound like this, which is very much comparable to Aranis, Julverne and other chamber rock ensembles that has a natural place in the mentioned sub-genre there. Of course they are not "prog" as in the rock genre - I even wrote that myself. I've heard most of the Avant Garde-approach to progressive rock out there and never claimed LFdlN were avant-anything (its simply the section they are placed under in the PA-Index - by association I suppose). This was a "violin-related" reccomendation and I posted the clip because I like it and the fact that it's a concert-clip as opposed to the video underneath - not because I wanted to show how prog they are.







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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Kokil Kokil wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:


Les Fragments De La Nuit is awesome but not prog. Thanks.
Well, they are listed here (in RIO-Avant) for a reason - this live concert doesn't display everything that they are about. Sure, they're not prog like Yes or Genesis and probably of little interest if that's the "only" prog you crave. But then again you could say that about most bands represented in the Archives. Glad you liked them though. They're great.
Grumpyprogfan has right. Les Fragments de la Nuit are very nice but not "prog" at all, let's forget Yes and Genesis. Les Fragments de la Nuit is quite a minimalist neoclassical repetitive sextet in the vein of Arvo Pärt.
However, if you for a change might want to hear an avant-garde approach to progressive rock that features a violin, I suggest you to check out Brooklyn's band Starring, also in PA [this is actually a viola, but as I presume that it would does matter regarding Les Fragments de la Nuit, it doesn't really matter in this case, lol] :

What do you mean change your mind - about what? I know what they sound like and where they are coming from. I've heard all of Les Fragments de la Nuit albums (have you?) - which is why I understand why they are included in the RIO/Avant section on Progarchives. It wasn't me who did it, so someone else decided they fit in here. On a studio album they sometimes sound like this, which is very much comparable to Aranis, Julverne and other chamber rock ensembles that has a natural place in the mentioned sub-genre there. Of course they are not "prog" as in the rock genre - I even wrote that myself. I've heard most of the Avant Garde-approach to progressive rock out there and never claimed LFdlN were avant-anything (its simply the section they are placed under in the PA-Index - by association I suppose). This was a "violin-related" reccomendation and I posted the clip because I like it and the fact that it's a concert-clip as opposed to the video underneath - not because I wanted to show how prog they are.


Sorry but neoclassical sextet Les Fragments de la Nuit has nothing to do with the prog idiom, let's forget the progressive rock as a genre. And this isn't a topic about strange additions to PA, but Grumpyprogfan started the thread where he is looking for prog with violin, and with the clearly mentioned acts from the golden era like Kansas, Dixie Dregs, Jean-Luc Ponty, and Mahavishnu Orchestra who should give us a guide what kind of music we are supposed to post on this thread. Want an avant-garde approach to prog feat. violin? Hey let me know what you think about this tune by Calomito from Italy:
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Sorry but neoclassical sextet Les Fragments de la Nuit has nothing to do with the prog idiom, let's forget the progressive rock as a genre. And this isn't a topic about strange additions to PA, but Grumpyprogfan started the thread where he is looking for prog with violin, and with the clearly mentioned acts from the golden era like Kansas, Dixie Dregs, Jean-Luc Ponty, and Mahavishnu Orchestra who should give us a guide what kind of music we are supposed to post on this thread. Want an avant-garde approach to prog feat. violin? Hey let me know what you think about this tune by Calomito from Italy:
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

In the 70's, bands such as Kansas, Dixie Dregs, Jean-Luc Ponty, and Mahavishnu Orchestra prominently featured violin in their music. Are there any modern bands (last twenty years) that feature the violin?
And Les Fragments de la Nuit are a modern band that fits nicely. They are a modern band included on PA that feature violin. The second clip I posted is not neoclassical (did you even listen to it before you posted this reply?), but typically the approach you'll find by plenty of bands in the RIO/Avant section. Whether you, Mr. Grumpy or anyone else think it's a strange addition, is not something I'm interested in discussing. If I posted 1970/1980's band Julverne (also in the RIO/Avant section), you'd probably oppose to them as well. I know why I think this music is part of the inclusive umbrella that PA with all its sub-genres represent. I'm not primarely looking for reccomendations from you, but both your examples sound interesting enough. The last one not so different from Des Restes Vivaces.


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No doubt to some, a large proportion of what can be found in the RIO/Avant section of PA will not be seen as prog. That says more about how the person making that claim views prog than anything else. Personally, the style(s) of music that can be found in the RIO/Avant section of PA, and similar that can be found outside PA, tend to be my favourite, and that which I’m drawn back to most often.

As with any thread in the forum, there is a tendency to get bogged down in what one’s subjective view of what is prog (or not). For the sake of discussion, let’s just assume that (whether you believe it personally to be prog, or not) if something is listed in PA, for the purposes of this thread, it is prog.

So, if it’s in PA, and it has violin (or viola, it seems), then share away!

There’s plenty of violin in modern prog (and as I’ve said, I find there to be more in modern prog than from the classic era).
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

No doubt to some, a large proportion of what can be found in the RIO/Avant section of PA will not be seen as prog. That says more about how the person making that claim views prog than anything else. Personally, the style(s) of music that can be found in the RIO/Avant section of PA, and similar that can be found outside PA, tend to be my favourite, and that which I’m drawn back to most often.

As with any thread in the forum, there is a tendency to get bogged down in what one’s subjective view of what is prog (or not). For the sake of discussion, let’s just assume that (whether you believe it personally to be prog, or not) if something is listed in PA, for the purposes of this thread, it is prog.

So, if it’s in PA, and it has violin (or viola, it seems), then share away!

There’s plenty of violin in modern prog (and as I’ve said, I find there to be more in modern prog than from the classic era).



For those not as adventurous as us, symphonic prog seems to be the only kind of prog in their world. I agree with you.

There were no limitations presented in the opening comment therefore if it's on PA under a bonafide prog category, it's fair game.

Whether someone likes it or not is another matter but what's the harm in sharing. It's an interesting topic so thank you Grumps for posting this question.

I think comparing modern prog to the old school world will yield very few results. Most bands are not in the retro camp.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

For those not as adventurous as us, symphonic prog seems to be the only kind of prog in their world.
Some fans though, coming from post-punk and alternative rock, don’t understand the beauty of symphonic rock, and because of that they will always choose more avant-garde forms for “their prog”.
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For the record I don't consider fusion prog, yet I mentioned three fusion acts in my OP.

It matters not what subdivision of prog these suggestions are. Some I prefer more than others, but I am thankful for all posts. Lots of good music!
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

For the record I don't consider fusion prog, yet I mentioned three fusion acts in my OP.
Indeed, though for me the Mahavishnu Orchestra is more like instrumental progressive rock than jazz-fusion.



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Azigza's "Petra" features a nice violin as well as a guest appearance from Daevid Allen on guitar:




I don't know if Kevin Evans plays the viola in "Touch Moon Window", but nevermind, because the song is fantastic:







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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

For those not as adventurous as us, symphonic prog seems to be the only kind of prog in their world.
Some fans though, coming from post-punk and alternative rock, don’t understand the beauty of symphonic rock, and because of that they will always choose more avant-garde forms for “their prog”.


True and nothing wrong with that. My point was that many seem limited in their musical appetites. I embrace it all from syrupy pop infused neo-prog to the most atonal dissonant time signature rich metal-in-opposition. It's all good!

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Mastronzo Mastronzo wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

For those not as adventurous as us, symphonic prog seems to be the only kind of prog in their world.
Some fans though, coming from post-punk and alternative rock, don’t understand the beauty of symphonic rock, and because of that they will always choose more avant-garde forms for “their prog”.


True and nothing wrong with that.
Certainly nothing wrong per se, but the problem arises when such people start fantasizing that only their pseudo-avantgarde thrash is a "true prog".
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Mastronzo Mastronzo wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

For those not as adventurous as us, symphonic prog seems to be the only kind of prog in their world.
Some fans though, coming from post-punk and alternative rock, don’t understand the beauty of symphonic rock, and because of that they will always choose more avant-garde forms for “their prog”.


True and nothing wrong with that.
Certainly nothing wrong per se, but the problem arises when such people start fantasizing that only their pseudo-avantgarde thrash is a "true prog".


There is no true prog so everybody needs to get off their high horse and come to the discomforting realization that prog is a nebulous term that refers to a wide spectrum of overlying attributes.

If one were to apply the true meaning of "progressive" then those avant-garde expressions are indeed "true prog."

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