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Posted: February 08 2022 at 03:40

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Inspired by Cristi's Progressive Metal polls, Symphonic Metal Heaven is back by unpopular demand. Tongue

Now, I just need to find the Symphonic Metal poll that goes with it. Ermm

gimme a break with " inspired by Cristi", this is an old thread from 2019.

Stop trolling, please.

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Posted: February 23 2022 at 07:32

Symphonic Metal: A-Z Album Links

1999: Aesma Daeva - Here Lies One Whose Name Was Written in Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQLLfKq6zQMJO1jkECUxSjjBtJuHAowEk

2001: Aesma Daeva - The Eros of Frigid Beauty - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvYIr94fNg

2003: Aesma Daeva - The New Athens Ethos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9l1XHVds40

2005: Aesma Daeva - Ex Libris - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suZ2IOuWA-w

2007: Aesma Daeva - Dawn of the New Athens - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWP_gny6EGSg1J5sQn08U6AAGO55KRNss

2000: After Forever - Prison of Desire - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUg8XbTFjoz2o5DyyDEYdd36IwcMcf6Yf

2001: After Forever - Decipher - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44BNkccoluU

2004: After Forever - Invisible Circles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezd3zzMqCDU

2005: After Forever - Remagine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOkKAe_Lj1E

2007: After Forever - After Forever - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw9aKQO1O6o

1996: Apocalyptica - Plays Metallica by Four Cellos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZbMSDX9L8HTUM-b83QRzgta_-NplwLFY

1998: Apocalyptica - Inquisition Symphony - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nC4-uF__MNnfoGKWrQ61FN0CoxLUeYRTs

2000: Apocalyptica - Cult - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luQAF3VQjqDJl19ESEpmU_fNOu3f7xoyU

2003: Apocalyptica - Reflections - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePcckx4x3Uc

2005: Apocalyptica - Apocalyptica - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wgaiDevXMA6eDp_G1pTo9gz7l76VjRt

2007: Apocalyptica - Worlds Collide - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGGP0R_Xrc-xxAutap1g-ivOveco3yCrc

2010: Apocalyptica - 7th Symphony - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjkkzmIReqgkWnC4n4qVX1Vex9GoAId8x

2015: Apocalyptica - Shadowmaker - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZFBTV-vQbGNzdwOw_VHI6HjnFdFC-Qqs

2020: Apocalyptica - Cell-0 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_R5R7LRPpXlhCJ4IoDDOfNqvIONpcpAg

2010: Ancient Bards - The Alliance of the Kings - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4DQUDNEdbh584OzvgrJKWB7FSbgs5sAo

2011: Ancient Bards - Soulless Child - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mhxjRGVhc5Z2xGub6pO8wrwECJiG9nqTE

2014: Ancient Bards - A New Dawn Ending - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_msFhagIXphI8EwTY_i78cNTP1U8GFm0dI

2019: Ancient Bards - The Black Crystal Sword Saga, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0Sqom1yZarpunTPg4ny3ZdSwljX8GgWw

2006: Angtoria - God Has a Plan for Us All - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWHiXsVSebj4G7kFys2CE5krGwt-bUrcc

1996: Apocalyptica - Plays Metallica by Four Cellos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZbMSDX9L8HTUM-b83QRzgta_-NplwLFY

1998: Apocalyptica - Inquisition Symphony - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nC4-uF__MNnfoGKWrQ61FN0CoxLUeYRTs

2000: Apocalyptica - Cult - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luQAF3VQjqDJl19ESEpmU_fNOu3f7xoyU

2003: Apocalyptica - Reflections - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePcckx4x3Uc

2005: Apocalyptica - Apocalyptica - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wgaiDevXMA6eDp_G1pTo9gz7l76VjRt

2007: Apocalyptica - Worlds Collide - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGGP0R_Xrc-xxAutap1g-ivOveco3yCrc

2010: Apocalyptica - 7th Symphony - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjkkzmIReqgkWnC4n4qVX1Vex9GoAId8x

2015: Apocalyptica - Shadowmaker - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZFBTV-vQbGNzdwOw_VHI6HjnFdFC-Qqs

2020: Apocalyptica - Cell-0 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_R5R7LRPpXlhCJ4IoDDOfNqvIONpcpAg

2011: Arven - Music of Light - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpt-9pltT3ze5wc1vgmFLeOmabeU1q9DY

2013: Arven - Black is the Colour - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_tBsN6q1I2tggdDA4jaP9xAJzd5A8Gy8

2002: Autumn - When Lust Evokes the Curse - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mwySoxpb_UZwPgMqQiZ0q2JfqKqk1AfZo

2004: Autumn - Summer's End - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF3uAJcqHV4

2007: Autumn - My New Time - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kTBxpirF2ofb7pJ-fQ4cXX5HWCFP5e-tk

2009: Autumn - Altitude - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kDhdYn6k4-aHFQ_BQyqHHJJtE7-DQUJIg

2011: Autumn - Cold Comfort - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJsmOif4Hb0F2n6Y63XYNc2OxFa4PsyCo

2019: Autumn - Stacking Smoke - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngBhArXe6yS2v62Dk3TIHs_3sgfZc8_UQ

2001: Avantasia - The Metal Opera - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lF-B9uiduLZQ2s33AqCXTDgb6KLKTQb4I

2002: Avantasia - The Metal Opera Part II - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8ZX-ND3WnA&t=2669s

2008: Avantasia - The Scarecrow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l0lFHKQa4jtttZ6fxMidToj6rmlSHoAjw

2010: Avantasia - The Wicked Symphony - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3IQW4JSKledA-4yEYdR3DcdoIP8ZXtMo

2010: Avantasia - Angel of Babylon - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGnhISqu_U_1MuLyG3qW0aYkc_UVKTGTM

2013: Avantasia - The Mystery of Time - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kZk3Ax2eBf2njEm8k8pjnmNxpxFIbsFwQ

2016: Avantasia - Ghostlights - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbAX2mGcq9WwVe9jmmKl6TrRZBjalSc38

2019: Avantasia - Moonglow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPwjxBpZnTzij4-M6cyEACfzVD1dc5wKA

2022: Avantasia - A Paranormal Evening with the Moonflower Society - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJduu8qL7qpMkd-ITUpZKFILIB81ynFTs

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Posted: February 24 2022 at 02:21

A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)

2002: Battlelore - Where the Shadows Lie

2003: Battlelore - Sword's Song

2005: Battlelore - Third Age of the Sun

2007: Battlelore - Evernight

2008: Battlelore - The Last Alliance

2011: Battlelore - Doombound

2015: Beyond the Black - Songs of Love and Death

2016: Beyond the Black - Lost in Forever

2018: Beyond the Black - Heart of the Hurricane

2020: Beyond the Black - Horizons

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Posted: February 24 2022 at 10:28

^ & ^^

I said to myself I won't be posting in this thread or the poll, but these lists are so inaccurate, it bothers me, i don't even know why. Wherever you are copying these lists from, they're not doing a good job.

First of all, progressive metal and symphonic metal are two different genres, why put them together?!

Second, a lot of the bands mentioned there are not symphonic metal:

Allen/Lande can be considered power metal at best, it's melodic heavy metal.

Ayreon (and whatever other Arjen projects) are not symphonic metal.

The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so).

Eye for an Eye & The Edge are by a band called Twilight whose keyboardist will go on and form Beyond Twilight much later.

Blind Guardian is a power metal band, they even started as a speed metal band, same as Helloween. They have symphonic elements, but cannot be considered a symphonic metal band (like After Forever, Epica and Nightwish and the likes).

Wherever you copy these titles, find better resources, like metalmusicarchives and/or metal storm.

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Posted: February 24 2022 at 12:10

^ Thanks for your valued input, Cristi, as you're far more knowledgeable about Progressive Metal than I am. There'd be little point in me just copying lists from Metal Archives I compiled these lists between 2013 & 2015 entirely independently of ProgArchives & MetalArchives. To be honest, I've listed Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here, just so I could include two of my favourite Prog Metal bands: Ayreon & Dream Theater. I'm using your Progressive Metal poll list as a helpful guide too with a little help from Wikipedia. Thumbs Up

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Posted: February 24 2022 at 12:24

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^ Thanks for your valued input, Cristi, as you're far more knowledgeable about Progressive Metal than I am. There'd be little point in me just copying lists from Metal Archives I compiled these lists between 2013 & 2015 entirely independently of ProgArchives & MetalArchives. To be honest, I've listed Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here, just so I could include two of my favourite Prog Metal bands: Ayreon & Dream Theater. I'm using your Progressive Metal poll list as a helpful guide too with a little help from Wikipedia. Thumbs Up

If you say you are using my list of bands, first I say try and listen to a few songs from each band if you want to see what's it all about, see what you like or what you dislike (and i believe you would like some and dislike some).

Also metal archives and metalmusicarchives are two different sites.

Also have look at this:

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Posted: February 24 2022 at 13:18

Cristi wrote:

Also metal archives and metalmusicarchives are two different sites.

lso have look at this:

That's good advice. I've been gradually working my way through listening to the debut albums in my Symphonic Metal poll, and so far, I like Aesma Daeva, After Forever, Amberian Dawn, Delain & Ayreon (obviously!), but I'm not so keen on Apocalyptica and Avantasia, so five out of seven ain't bad - if you'll allow me to paraphrase Meatloaf. Smile

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Posted: February 25 2022 at 12:06

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The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so).

I listened to The Beyond for the first time today and it's beyond me why I even added them in the first place as I didn't like them at all, so I've happily deleted them from my listings, making them even more obscure than ever now.

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Posted: February 25 2022 at 12:12

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Cristi wrote:

The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so).

where did you listen? Are their albums on youtube?

Can you post listening links then?

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Posted: February 25 2022 at 12:19

Cristi wrote:

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Cristi wrote:

The Beyond is an obscure progressive metal band, difficult to find, what's it doing here? (proof you're just copying titles, say it isn't so).

where did you listen? Are their albums on youtube?

Can you post listening links then?

Gladly!

1991: The Beyond - The Crawl - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDz5ShYBlRw_ybMTjKtIQYjK

1993: The Beyond - Chasm - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDz53DD6bc54Kr4neRuZKjwc

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 05:59

A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)

2006: Christopher Lee - Revelation - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJj1XsVZ1MxUyFoHJtziyGX

2010: Christopher Lee - Charlemagne: By the Sword and the Cross - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJa8ajJlaMO_ZEZ4SjXOxcS

2013: Christopher Lee - Charlemagne: The Omens of Death - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpICfOi256pqU_IIc5-eAsFT

2007: Coronatus - Lux Noctis

2008: Coronatus - Porta Obscura

2009: Coronatus - Fabula Magna

2011: Coronatus - Terra Incognita

2013: Coronatus - Recreatio Carminis

2014: Coronatus - Cantus Lucidus

2015: Coronatus - Raben im Herz

2017: Coronatus - Secrets in Nature

2019: Coronatus - The Eminence of Nature

2021: Coronatus - Atmosphere

2007: Crimson Tears - The Dark Awakening

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 06:15

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.

So you've chosen to ignore me.

Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense.

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 06:37

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^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.

So you've chosen to ignore me.

Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense.

I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 07:24

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Cristi wrote:

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.

So you've chosen to ignore me.

Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense.

I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up

Not what I meant.

Symphonic metal and progressive metal are two different things. I thought i made it clear in my previous post. Even within progressive metal, there are different sounds, styles.

So your lists make no sense.

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:01

Cristi wrote:

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Cristi wrote:

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.

So you've chosen to ignore me.

Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense.

I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up

Not what I meant.

Symphonic metal and progressive metal are two different things. I thought i made it clear in my previous post. Even within progressive metal, there are different sounds, styles.

I agree. There's a lot of crossover between Progressive & Symphonic Metal, especially in the case of Ayreon. Wink

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:06

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Cristi wrote:

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Cristi wrote:

^ I've never heard of Coronatus or Crimson Tears(I will look them up), but the other three are not symphonic metal.

So you've chosen to ignore me.

Symphonic metal is not a progressive metal subgenre, associating these two genre is so messy, it's oranges and potatoes. Makes very little sense.

I never claimed Circus Maximus and Conception are Symphonic Metal. I found them in your Progressive Metal poll. Big smile

I only discovered Coronatus today and they sound pretty good too! Thumbs Up

Not what I meant.

Symphonic metal and progressive metal are two different things. I thought i made it clear in my previous post. Even within progressive metal, there are different sounds, styles.

I agree. There's a lot of crossover between Progressive & Symphonic Metal, especially in the case of Ayreon. Wink

I've just said the opposite in my previous posts.

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:50

^ Combining Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here is a good way for me to discover new music, is it not, just as I "discovered" Dimmu Borgir this morning, although I rather wish I hadn't.

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 08:58

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^ Combining Progressive Metal & Symphonic Metal together here is a good way for me to discover new music, is it not, just as I "discovered" Dimmu Borgir this morning, although I rather wish I hadn't.

but you don't know the difference between them, so how's it gonna work for you?

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Posted: February 26 2022 at 09:08

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but you don't know the difference between them, so how's it gonna work for you?

In theory, combining the two similar Metal genres together means I get to discover twice as much music. I've only listened to Dimmu Borgir's first album so far, so maybe I was too quick to judge them, based on what Archisorcerus and Logan have since told me, where they become more symphonic as you delve further into their discography. Dimmu Borgir's later albums are almost bound to be an improvement on their dismal first album. Smile

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